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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 30 2005 at 23:02
I am very dissapointed at the lack of support for Mike Rutherford here! Just because he is not loud and crunchy and somewhat lower in the mix doesnt mean anything. His playing is theoretically (music theory wise that is) equal to or HARDER than Chris'. I play bass and find Rutherford's "Visions of Angels" equally as hard to play CORRECTLY as Chris' Heart of the Sunrise. People seem to hate the man's playing for some odd reason and its a trend I've noticed for some time now. Im sorry, but as a player, they are equally as challenging and creative on bass. Overall though, Yes is a TAD better than Genesis.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 00:25

Originally posted by Parker Parker wrote:

Peter brings much more emotin and meaning than Jon. Just think if Peter did " I get up I get down"

It would suck.    Sorry, but those two (although equally brilliant) aren't interchangeable.  Peter should dare not trespass (no pun intended) on Yes territory, and vice versa.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 12:43

Well, I was reading another forum where a "fan" of Genesis was saying how much better they are then YES.  He said something along the lines of "How can you even compare the musicians of Genesis to YES, I can name all of the musicians from Genesis off the top of my head.  Do you think you can do that with YES, NO!  All that comes to mind is Chris Squire."  Now as I was reading this I was just laughing.  And then he goes onto to say "Besides Genesis had way more hits than YES,(Then he names all of the lame 80's Genesis pop songs that were hits.)  And said do you think YES can do that?

 

Oh yeah.  YES>Genesis

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 13:13
Any "classic" album by Yes beat any "classic" album by Genesis   IMO
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:04

yeah.... i  dont like genesis ... ( though i hear several times their albums) i really dont like it...

But I Love yes ...

these two bands only share the same music genre label for me

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:09
I can't choose.

But I will say that Trespass slightly edges out The Yes Album for one reason and one reason only: The Knife.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 16:19

Members

Steve Hackett <<<< Steve Howe

Phil Collins > Alan White

Edit : Phil Collins < Bill Bruford  (if you wish)

Mike Rutherford <<<<<<<<<<< <<<<<<<<< Chris Squire

Peter Gabriel <<< Jon Anderson

Tony Banks <<<<<<<<<<< Rick Wakeman

 

Albums

 

From Genesis to REvelations < Yes

Tresspass  >  Time and a Word

Nursery Crime <<<<< The Yes Album

Foxtrot <<<<<<<<<<<< ;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< ;<<<<<<<<<<<<, Fragile

Selling England By the Pound <<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<<<<<<<<<<& lt;<<<<<, Close To The Edge

Genesis Live <<<<<<<<<<< Yessongs

Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > Tales of topographic oceans

Trick of the tail <<<<<<<<<<<<&l t;< Relayer

Wind and Wuthering > Going for the one

And then there were three > Tormato

Duke >>>> Drama

Genesis >>>>>>>> 90125

Acabab < Big Generator

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Genesis <<<<<<<< Yes

Gentle Gaint owns every prog band
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 20:28

Originally posted by Evan1211 Evan1211 wrote:

I am very dissapointed at the lack of support for Mike Rutherford here! Just because he is not loud and crunchy and somewhat lower in the mix doesnt mean anything. His playing is theoretically (music theory wise that is) equal to or HARDER than Chris'. I play bass and find Rutherford's "Visions of Angels" equally as hard to play CORRECTLY as Chris' Heart of the Sunrise. People seem to hate the man's playing for some odd reason and its a trend I've noticed for some time now. Im sorry, but as a player, they are equally as challenging and creative on bass. Overall though, Yes is a TAD better than Genesis.

 

Anyone care to give me an idea about this blatent Rutherfordian  bashing amongst us?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 20:56

genesis is way better in every single aspect for me... and i like Yes

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2005 at 06:19
definitely Genesis win... i like some Yes stuff but most from late 70s and early 80s. and Genesis recorded really good albums when Peter Gabriel was the singer. my fav is Lamb Lies Down On Broadway it's something that Yes never recorded.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2005 at 09:33

Rutherford is one of the best bassists ever.  But Chris Squire had a much bigger impact on the music than Rutherford did.  You could say he was the backbone of the band, and the bass was the basis for most of Yes's best songs.  The rest of the band just road those bass lines.

When I think Genesis though, the first thing that comes to mind is the keyboards.  Particularly the organ and mellotron.  Banks was the driving force behind the band just as Squire was the driving force for Yes.  Rutherford's melodic phrasing, however, is better than Squire's, but he was not the driving force.  That's why Squire wins.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 01 2005 at 09:58
I am about to go upstream...
One thing I must say is that to me there are so many differences between these two great groups that I can't restrict it to a X beats Y or viceversa.
Any comparison is unfair...they developed their OUTSTANDING ideas in different ways!

That said, I'm gonna get bashed, since these are my preferences:

Originally posted by Zitro Zitro wrote:

Of course, the two bands for many are very similar in musical quality and style, so it is a good idea to compare which is best in specific areas :


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Steve Hackett (techinque: = but styles differ too much)(emotion: >>) Steve Howe


Phil Collins (T: >)(E: >) Alan White


Phil Collins (T: <<)(E: >>>) Bill Bruford


Mike Rutherford (T: <<)(E: <<) Chris Squire


Peter Gabriel (T: <)(E: >>> but once again styles differ too much) Jon Anderson


Tony Banks (T: <<)(E: >>> Wakeman tends to sound "plastic" too many times) Rick Wakeman


 


Albums


 


From Genesis to Revelation <<< Yes


Tresspass  >  Time and a Word


Nursery Crime >>> The Yes Album


Foxtrot = Fragile


Selling England By the Pound << Close To The Edge


Genesis Live <<< (BAAAAD recording) Yessongs


Lamb Lies Down on Broadway > (though both heavy to digest) Tales of topographic oceans


Trick of the tail >>>>>> Relayer and everything else


Wind and Wuthering >>> Going for the one


And then there were three = Tormato


Duke << Drama


Genesis < 90125


Acabab > Big Generator


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Genesis >>> Yes


 



Genesis are my second favourite band of all times (after The Beatles)...I DO like Yes a great deal, but they disappoint me more frequently than Genesis...
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