Forum Home Forum Home > Topics not related to music > General discussions
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Just who is Cliven Bundy?
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedJust who is Cliven Bundy?
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
Author
Message
  Topic Search Topic Search  Topic Options Topic Options
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2014 at 10:50
It actually does. And they could start by doing a cover of Colbert's awesome ballad dedicated to Mr Cliven The American Founder Bundy.
Back to Top
Kentucky_Hawkwindage View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: February 15 2014
Location: Hardinsburg,Ky
Status: Offline
Points: 733 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2014 at 11:00
Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

Is he related to Al and Peggy Bundy?


Maybe he's related to the infamous serial killer Ted Bundy?
"Nobody's Gonna Change My World That's Something To Unreal"   Lyrics that i live my life by-from Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy's track You Won't Change Me
Back to Top
*frinspar* View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 27 2008
Location: Arizona
Status: Offline
Points: 463 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2014 at 12:55
I'm pretty sure he's more closely related to his sister-mother. 
Back to Top
Ambient Hurricanes View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 25 2011
Location: internet
Status: Offline
Points: 2549 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2014 at 14:43
In theory, I support Bundy's claims.  I am an ardent supporter of the right to homestead/Lockean theory of property rights and don't think the government has a right to, well, anything.  What I cannot support is his use of the threat of violence to achieve his ends.  I'm not a pacifist but it's not always as simple as "they're my rights so back off or I'll shoot you," there are many other ethical and consequential factors to consider and I think that using armed force against the government is very rarely justified.  Injustice must always be opposed, but the pen, not the sword, is typically the more appropriate tool to those ends.
I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
Back to Top
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2014 at 16:24
I'm not even close to supporting his of others like him's claims of "this is about rights" when in the end it's all about money. About the one million dollars he owes. About the money other ranchers have paid for years while this ignorant idiot hasn't.
Back to Top
Ambient Hurricanes View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 25 2011
Location: internet
Status: Offline
Points: 2549 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2014 at 17:15
I don't see why there has to be a money/rights dichotomy, it's an appeal to one's rights to defend one's property.  Whether or not he has broader motivations to make a statement about liberty or just wants to keep his cash is irrelevant to the validity of his claim because the concept of rights does not depend upon the motivations of the person invoking them.

I won't argue with you about "ignorant idiot," given what the guy has said to deserve the title...


Edited by Ambient Hurricanes - April 26 2014 at 17:16
I love dogs, I've always loved dogs
Back to Top
The Dark Elf View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: February 01 2011
Location: Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 12719 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2014 at 17:46
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

I'm not even close to supporting his of others like him's claims of "this is about rights" when in the end it's all about money. About the one million dollars he owes. About the money other ranchers have paid for years while this ignorant idiot hasn't.

And just for the record, federal grazing fees were established by executive order of one Ronald Reagan. Damn liberal.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Back to Top
*frinspar* View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: May 27 2008
Location: Arizona
Status: Offline
Points: 463 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 26 2014 at 19:00
The ranch was only purchased by his family in 1948. He's just a thief and liar.
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2014 at 11:50
http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/23444-william-rivers-pitt-cliven-bundy-clown-car-or-trojan-horse

...
His ardent gun-toting supporters at the ranch stood their ground...until a few days ago, when there was a sudden falling-out between Bundy's own ranch security - commanded by a man actually named Booda Bear - and a contingent of Oath Keepers who had come to the ranch because Jesus, or something. Their leader, one Stewart Rhodes, informed Booda Bear (God, I could type his name all day) that he had "intel" from a "source of intelligence of high value" that Eric Holder and the Justice Department were going to deploy a "hot drone strike" against the Bundy Ranch within the next 24 hours. Because of this, the fearless leader was forced to re-deploy his stalwart troops off the ranch and into hotels with room service back in town.
...


And so not with a bang, but with a Derp, solidarity at the Bundy ranch "battle front" fell to dust that swirled and eddied around the white skin of Booda Bear's ass.

Edited by Slartibartfast - May 03 2014 at 08:29
Back to Top
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2014 at 11:56
I'm a prejudiced person. Whenever I see people with guns and bulletproof vests and military-type clothes full of American flags and ready to "defend their freedom" the first thing in my mind is usually "oh, low IQ", or "oh, overcompensating for something small"
Back to Top
manofmystery View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 26 2008
Location: PA, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 4335 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2014 at 15:54
I believe Cliven Bundy is slarti's true identity.


Time always wins.
Back to Top
The T View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: October 16 2006
Location: FL, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 17493 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 02 2014 at 16:10
You are confused with old time wrestler King Kong Bundy Tongue
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 03 2014 at 08:27
Originally posted by manofmystery manofmystery wrote:

I believe Cliven Bundy is slarti's true identity.

Moo moo, Tongue  Hey we already know from your wiping thread that you are Master Shake... Wink




Edited by Slartibartfast - May 03 2014 at 08:29
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
Back to Top
jude111 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: October 20 2009
Location: Not Here
Status: Offline
Points: 1744 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2014 at 00:21

If Bundy were black, we can be sure of one thing: He and his supporters would be dead by now. Whites are allowed to go around waving their guns at people in the US, but non-whites get put down pretty quickly.


Edited by jude111 - May 04 2014 at 00:21
Back to Top
Atavachron View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: September 30 2006
Location: Pearland
Status: Offline
Points: 64386 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2014 at 01:51
^ I don't think most black Americans are stupid enough to pull Bundy's kind of nonsense;  that's classic angry white guy behavior.
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
Back to Top
Slartibartfast View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator / In Memoriam

Joined: April 29 2006
Location: Atlantais
Status: Offline
Points: 29625 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 04 2014 at 07:50
We had a guy in here in Georgia flaunting/waving his gun around after Nathan Bad Deal signed the guns allowed everywhere bill into law.  And a guy went in to Fed Ex office and murdered a bunch of people in Kennesaw.  Kennesaw got famous/notorious for passing a law that all households should have a gun many years ago. That certainly made them safer...

BTW in case you didn't know he gets money from the Kochs...


Edited by Slartibartfast - May 04 2014 at 07:54
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.133 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.