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Points: 5093 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 04 2014 at 16:07
Originally posted by O666 O666 wrote:

Tribute album must cover songs of original Artist's album or songs(IMO). By Searching in PA you can see that. I never see this kind of tribute as you say. One musician playing his/her new songs in others style (even in smallest details) and named Tribute on it.  Can you give me a CLEAR "this kind of tribute" album? I honestly want to know that and I dont want to proof my opinion in this way. I really want to see one fit Example.
I haven't listened to Sanctuary yet but to answer to this point, Steve Morse's 2 Major Impacts albums are a clear example, he makes a homage to bands that influenced him by making new original songs in the style of those bands. Now, I don't know if there is a clear distinction between "tribute" and "homage" in English. Morse was completely open about it (it couldn't have been otherwise) and as far as I know nobody accused him of plagiarism for these albums, rather the contrary, he received appreciation.

I only have the first one of the two


and this was my review of it


The word "Tribute" is not printed on the album (it is not a Tribute to only one band but to many) but the word "Homage to xxx" is printed on each song's title.


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Points: 2618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 05 2014 at 09:29
I think and I recommend you to listen to "Sanctuary". Its very good stuff for Mike Oldfield's 70's style fans. I got my answer from Dean but this post open for other opinions. 
I think PA must open Robert Reed's exclusive page . Maybe I use wrong word again (Exclusive). I mean Rob Reed have his own page and I think Crossover Prog is a good sub gen for him IMO.
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Points: 5093 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2014 at 03:42
I just listened to the Bandcamp stuff. It is indeed a blatant copy of Oldfield's style and tones but since Reed himself acknowledges that this was precisely his intention, I don't think we can accuse him of plagiarism but rather talk about a homage or tribute. Notwithstanding Dean's welcome clarification of semantics I can't help attaching a negative connotation to the word "pastiche".
At any rate Pt 1 is a really good track with its own melodies, and I like the fact that he plays everything with real instruments just as Oldfield did back in the TB / Ommadawn days.
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Points: 2618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2014 at 09:20
Exactly you right. Dean's clarification enough for me and I dont accuse RB anymore and try to recommend his album. Sanctuary forced me to review Mike's albums again. But I like continue this posts and I really like to know other opinions. Thanks.
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Points: 26161 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 06 2014 at 15:38
I prefer the word 'homage' over 'tribute' for some reason although I do suspect they mean the same thing essentially.
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Points: 2618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 07 2014 at 09:31
Behind of  "copy or tribute" reasons, I think "Sanctuary" is a good album.Good in my opinion is a 3 star album.  I like to read reviews and opinions about that. 
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This album is now featured at Progstreaming.
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Points: 20204 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2014 at 09:39
Listening to it now on progstreaming, it is very very Olfieldian but I like it.
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Yaaaawn! Give it a rest already.
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Points: 7 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2014 at 10:01
Nevermind "Sanctuary". Kompendium "Beneath the Waves" was/is sublilme... and no obvious "plagiarism".

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Points: 2618 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 28 2014 at 10:21
I was listen to CYAN's "The Creeping Wine" yesterday. I found Mike Oldfield's touch in this Album. Honestly I listened to this album over 20 times and I think this is a best album of Cyan (IMO) but I didn't find anything about Oldfield!! After "Sanctuary" I decide to review Rob's works again. Before "Sanctuary" I didn't zoom to Rob's works. Now I know Rob better and I think he really "Love" Mr.Oldfield and Oldfield's style is "Impressive and Important part" of Rob's musical career (IMO).
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