A Camel Song VS An ELP Song
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Topic: A Camel Song VS An ELP Song
Posted By: zravkapt
Subject: A Camel Song VS An ELP Song
Date Posted: November 26 2014 at 22:59
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Let's do this sh*t some more. ------------- Magma America Great Make Again |
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Posted By: LearsFool
Date Posted: November 26 2014 at 23:11
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The cut off Mirage. Camel just barnstormed into symphonic perfection with that album, and "Freefall" is just a beautiful piece of that wonderful puzzle. ELP's first album as a whole was itself excellent, with already tried and true visionaries immediately making some magic happen. I would say that Mirage is head and shoulders above ELP's debut, though if "The Barbarian" or "Take a Pebble" were going up against "Freefall" I'd have to pause to consider. Plus one does simply vote for f
 ing Camel over ELP, if they please.  |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 26 2014 at 23:34
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Tough one here, honestly, I think I'll vote ELP........ Freefall is my least fave track off Mirage, but still quite good. Any other song off the album would've whipped Knife Edge hands down. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 00:45
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Freefall on a Knife Edge. Painful. I'm fine with both the tunes... can't pick a side... |
Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 01:21
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Knife Edge is a bit of a mess . Dark vocals was never Lake's thing and Palmer is very stilted. Emerson's organ saves the day just about. ELP's debut is a bit overrated . Only Lucky Man ,Take A Pebble and Lucky Man are solid gold ELP classics imo. Tank would have been better without the drum solo ( I like the Works version a lot more) while Three Fates is Emerson being amazing and the rest of the band gauping at his brilliance. Ok fine but ELP became a more cohesive band on the next 4 releases. Camel have always been a nice ordered everything in its place and very easy to listen to prog band. I'll give them a vote this time.
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Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 01:27
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Kinfe Edge ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 02:36
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Freefall. -------------  One of my best achievements in life was to find this picture :D |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 02:57
| Not 2 of my favorite bands, but I own these albums. The ELP song is probably better. |
Posted By: Moogtron III
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 04:34
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I cannot believe I'm not voting for ELP here. The debut is in my all top 5 albums of any band anytime! But... Knife Edge is probably my least favorite track from the debut, and Freefall is absolutely magic stuff. So voting for the funkin' Camel over ELP.
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Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 06:10
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Knife edge is pretty good, but Freefall is amazing. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 06:45
 you are evil!  good choices btw. Both from favorite albums of mine from each group, each song not the favorites from them but still very enjoyable. who am I kidding though... I almost started to type it was a hard choice ELP all the way!!! A good song from masters beats a good song from journeymen any day of the week. ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
zravkapt wrote:Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 06:57
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Down, down, down, down, down, oh yeah ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: Sagichim
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 07:01
| Camel here. Latimer is on fire on that song. |
Posted By: digdug
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 07:04
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Knife Edge for me ------------- Prog On! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 07:19
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Freefall, although Latimers vocals are pretty weak imo. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Imperial Zeppelin
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 07:26
Peter Bardens does the vocals on Freefall. ------------- "Hey there, Dog Man, now I drink from your bowl." |
Posted By: The Dark Elf
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 07:43
See? Latimer's vocals are so weak, you can't even hear him!  I'll go with ELP. The band amuses me more and more as their themes reach higher levels of pomposity. And Knife is one pompous song. ------------- ...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology... |
Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 08:20
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Knife Edge, man. i haven't listened to it in a while, however. ------------- Progrockdude |
Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 08:36
| A very, very hard choice. |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 08:40
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Knife Edge, but this is a close call. ------------- 
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Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 10:45
Ok, I didnt know that....  Neither very good singers then.. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 11:08
| Stop the insanity! |
Posted By: octopus-4
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 12:04
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I'm a sort of ELP fanboy, but Mirage is a true masterpiece. ------------- Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half. My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com |
Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 12:15
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Oh man, good pairing! I'd say Freefall edges Knife Edge just barely, mainly because Keith admits to having lifted key melodies from Bach and Janacek. Both great rocking prog songs. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 12:25
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Two of my favorite prog albums and those tracks are both good.....going with Knife Edge just barely because the first ELP is in my top prog albums of all time and holds a sentimental spot for me. ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Dayvenkirq
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 12:48
| Gotta be "Knife Edge". That organ rocks. |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 13:05
Both were wonderful singers (and Latimer still is). You just have a tin ear. |
Posted By: Friday13th
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 13:08
| Greg Lake is a better singer though. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 13:16
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No way, dude. ------------- |
Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 13:39
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Knife Edge!! ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 15:30
 Credits to Micky  |
Posted By: micky
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 15:42
 ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: Rick Robson
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 15:52
I do like Mirage but no song in there managed to impact me the same way that Knife Edge does every time I listen to it - a sheer strenght that amazes me! Awesome to know in this poll that this track lifted key melodies from Bach and Janacek!  And glad that it was performed in so many stunning shows... Looking forward to listening to them, of course!
-------------  "Music is a higher revelation than all wisdom and philosophy." LvB |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:18
Obviously. I've always regarded the vocals in Camel as the weakest link. How does Latimer rate alongside Lake, Collins, Anderson, Gabriel, Wetton et al?? Honestly? To me Camel sound like a great band who never got round to recruiting a great singer. Sorry, just my opinion. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:24
Freefall is my least favourite off Mirage as well, so Knife Edge it is. Love both albums though. ------------- "The wind is slowly tearing her apart" "Sad Rain" ANEKDOTEN |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:31
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Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:38
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Neither are actually my favorites from their respective albums, but they are both good songs. ELP this time, although I think it perfectly legitimate to vote for Camel above ELP. I mean, if Frodo really can simply walk into Mordor, why can't we simply vote for Camel? ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:43
He was a better singer, but I preferred the music of the first four albums. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 17:48
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^ I really like Rain Dances for some reason. You can't complain about The Snow Goose vocals though |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: November 27 2014 at 22:41
| I don't really recall either song well enough to vote for one over the other... but I do know a few things. Songs like "Lady Fantasy" or "The White Rider" win for me easily over anything on the ELP debut (and, actually, over almost anything ELP did). And as for Mirage, I do like that album as a whole over the ELP debut, and any other whole album ELP released. About the singers, though, indeed I like Greg Lake much better than Lattimer, or Bardens, or any of the guys that might have gotten the microphone on that line-up... however, the vocals on Camel songs don't really bother me, and I actually find them rather charming and enjoy them very much. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: November 28 2014 at 02:29
It's one of the reasons why it's their best album, imo... To be fair the vocals don't actually ruin those early albums because the music is so strong. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 28 2014 at 04:08
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This early. In their caraeer. )!!) OK - Camel are OUTATANDING !!! Super twister is just Caterbury-bliss........Mirage is insanely good.... |
Posted By: Tom Ozric
Date Posted: November 28 2014 at 04:11
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This early. In their caraeer. )!!) OK - Camel are OUTATANDING !!! Super twister is just Caterbury-bliss........Mirage is insanely good.... Thanks Zravkapt, you are an animal..... |
Posted By: The Bearded Bard
Date Posted: November 28 2014 at 16:08
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Knife Edge -------------  
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Posted By: proggman
Date Posted: December 13 2014 at 21:53
Emerson, Lake & Palmer, Knife-Edge.------------- When he rides, my fears subside. For darkness turns once more to light. Through the skies, his white horse flies. To find a land beyond the night. |
Posted By: Kentucky_Hawkwindage
Date Posted: December 15 2014 at 18:43
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Knife Edge that happens to be one of my all time fave ELP tracks ------------- "Nobody's Gonna Change My World That's Something To Unreal" Lyrics that i live my life by-from Black Sabbath's Technical Ecstasy's track You Won't Change Me |
Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: December 16 2014 at 09:41
Agreed. I mean, way up there amongst the rest of their catalog. Much ballsier than Freefall which can be filed under "Quaint" with its dopey "Down, down, down, down, down" lyrics and MOR bridge, all coalescing towards a "Good night, Cleveland!" ending. I do like Freefall though, but it was the band evolving and, I'm afraid, not worthy enough to tie Knife Edge's sandals. |