King Crimson vs Talking Heads
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Topic: King Crimson vs Talking Heads
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Subject: King Crimson vs Talking Heads
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 14:01
| It seems to me that it's possible that KC were influenced by this T Heads album(especially when you consider who played on it). But that aside I'm wondering which album you guys prefer. |
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Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 14:41
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I see the similarities and so have tried to get into the Talking Heads but for whatever reason they just don't do it for me. ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 15:23
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KC. The Heads have some cool songs, but I've never been into 'em. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 15:42
| I liked the Talking Heads Remain in Light---but prefer anything with Bill Bruford in it. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 16:07
My soul is Byrning for the Heads. 
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 16:44
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my heart and soul remains in light... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: TCat
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 18:50
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I do like Talking Heads, but it's very seldom that anything wins over King Crimson. It's Discipline for me. ------------- https://ibb.co/8x0xjR0" rel="nofollow">  |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 19:37
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The one that has The Sheltering Sky ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 21:27
| This is one of those that's hard to take seriously. Compared to KC, the Heads are little more than a catchy novelty act. |
Posted By: twosteves
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 21:33
| theres a sameness to the sound on the Talking Heads that gets to me---Discipline's songs are more diverse and therefore more interesting and a better record. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 23:18
Well, to be fair this is about individual albums not bands. So far it's been interesting and kind of like a football or basketball game in the way the score has been going back and forth.
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Fischman wrote:Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: October 08 2018 at 23:34
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KC, easy. ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Hercules
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 05:30
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I've tried, but I cannot get into either band at all. ------------- A TVR is not a car. It's a way of life. |
Posted By: hellogoodbye
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 06:00
C'mon Hercules, a strong guy like you !? 
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Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 07:29
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Both are great but Remain In Light has that Eno production. Score another one for Talking Heads!!!
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Posted By: Wanorak
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 10:10
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Discipline . ------------- A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!! |
Posted By: Chaser
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 13:27
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Talking Heads are fine, but they can't hold a candle to KC. Discipline all the way. ------------- Songs cast a light on you |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 13:53
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Discipline....(though that's my 3rd favorite period of KC....)..... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 14:02
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Remain in Light ------------- |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 15:10
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I usually prefer King Crimson over Talking Heads, but not here. ------------- 
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 15:35
Yes, very easy.
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Posted By: Lewian
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 17:18
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Remain in Light is pretty good, but not good enough to win this for me. |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 17:42
I doubt there's many people on here who don't know who played on "Remain in Light" besides the regular members of the Talking Heads themselves of course but for those who don't here's the lineup from the wikipedia page:
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Posted By: JesusisLord
Date Posted: October 09 2018 at 23:49
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Have a strong suspicion that many who dissed Remain in Light have never bothered to even listen to it. It is incredible. Ask Fripp. One guy even dismissed the Heads as a "novelty act". Glad I've never developed that narrow-mindedness. Ironically, it can come from those who boast themselves as "progressive". ------------- And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord to the glory of God the Father. Phillipians 2:11 |
Posted By: progmatic
Date Posted: October 10 2018 at 10:07
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Just because someone doesn't care for the Heads doesn't mean they're close-minded. I just don't like Byrne's voice. Same reason I don't care for Flower Kings. Vocals can make or break a group for me. I've listened to the Heads many times, if someone else was singing (speaking) I would probably enjoy them. I think its narrow-minded to assume that if someone doesn't like what you do, that there must be something wrong with them. And because I like prog doesn't mean that I'm "boasting myself as 'progressive'." ------------- PROGMATIC |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 10 2018 at 10:32
I think it's safe to say that sometimes the most progressive albums are albums that some wouldn't even call "prog." Anyway, I agree that many on here haven't even heard this TH album but voted against it anyway. I worked with a guy a long time ago(mid 90's) who dissed the eighties King Crimson because they "sounded too much like the talking heads."
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Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 10 2018 at 11:29
I didn't say Talking Heads were a novelty band in any absolute sense. Only as compared to King Crimson. We're talking about one of the few absolute titans of prog here. I can like Talking Heads and appreciate their artistry without having to elevate them to that level. To me, the comparison seems a stretch, and I stand by that assessment. This isn't about snobbery. I like Asia, but I'm not about to go loading them up head to head with Yes. That is unless we're comparing XXX (that album is positively brilliant from start to finish) to Heaven and Earth (a very disappointing Yes outing from the same time). But that's not what's going on here. Discipline is not some horrible misstep in the King Crimson discography.
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Posted By: Rednight
Date Posted: October 10 2018 at 12:19
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Remain in Light is just special. Discipline wasn't the second coming as it should have been after Red. ------------- "It just has none of the qualities of your work that I find interesting. Abandon [?] it." - Eno |
Posted By: HackettFan
Date Posted: October 10 2018 at 14:03
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I realize I am not typical, but I do not elevate Red to some great height, although Providence was tremendous. I do elevate LTIA and SABB and Discipline to a higher level. The only part of Discipline I don’t care for is the title track, Discipline in which not a lot really happens, kind of like major parts of Red. And yes, I have heard Remain in Light. I interpret more influence on Discipline coming from Belew’s time with Zappa and Bowie and the addition of Tony Levin’s Chapmin Stick and very different base style from Wetton’s. Remain in Light is certainly not crap. I don’t know that I would call it Progressive either. Nor should what I like be governed by what is thought of by some as Progressive. In fact some characteristics of the Talking Heads that I don’t like I also commonly hear in a band like Gentle Giant, a decidedly progressive band that I also do not like for some of the same reasons. ------------- A curse upon the heads of those who seek their fortunes in a lie. The truth is always waiting when there's nothing left to try. - Colin Henson, Jade Warrior (Now) |
Posted By: Progosopher
Date Posted: October 10 2018 at 15:27
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Remain in Light is my favorite Heads album and certainly one of their very best, but it doesn't match up to Discipline. ------------- The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty" |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: October 11 2018 at 16:21
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KC all the way for me. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 01:59
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Fine T. Heads album. But against Discipline? 8 or 9 versus a perfect 10... Y'know, how about pitting The Heads versus The League Of Gentlemen? There I'd give The Heads the nod fr songs even over the Gent's groove.
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Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 06:34
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Neither. Not the best prog you can find. |
Posted By: chopper
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 07:10
To be fair, he's asking you to vote between 2 albums, not the acts themselves. I would probably vote for KC over TH as an act, but RIL is the better album of the two imo.
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Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 14:09
Exactly. I can see how the title might make people think that but once you open the thread it should be obvious it's about an album vs an album and nothing more.
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Posted By: For Nobody's Bush
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 18:09
| I see Remain in Light as TH's finest hour. I love the Jon Hassell solos the most. KC's Discipline is not my favorite KC period, I guess they are about tie for me. |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 18:38
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Discipline isn't my favourite album by King Crimson, but it still tops all of the albums of Talking Heads. ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Fischman
Date Posted: October 12 2018 at 21:35
Naw, I got that. That's why I subsequently made the Asia/Yes analogy. Yes clearly outpaces Asia but it is possible for Asia to come out ahead if you put Asia's very best against one of Yes' clunkers. This specific head to head only goes half way. It does cute the Head's best, but the Crimson selection is no clunker. |
Posted By: geekfreak
Date Posted: April 18 2020 at 12:18
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Crimson ------------- Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake." Music Is Live Two people are better off than one, for they can help each other succeed. Keep Calm And Listen To The Music… < |
Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: April 18 2020 at 13:03
| Remain In Light |
Posted By: The Anders
Date Posted: April 18 2020 at 16:26
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An easy choice: Remain in Light. I do like the Discipline album, but the distance and chilliness that I sense in its music means that can not entirely relate to it. Remain in Light, on the other hand, is one of the best and most important albums in rock history. There was nothing quite like it before, and its way of mixing rock and funk with African music opend up for new possibilities. That said, the albums are not that different after all, and I think Adrian Belew performed on Remain In Light too (the solo guitar in "Born Under Punches"?) But my favourite Talking Heads album is actually Fear of Music.
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 18 2020 at 19:36
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I prefer Remain in Light. Discipline never really appealed to me. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |