Synthwave and Retro Electronic
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Topic: Synthwave and Retro Electronic
Posted By: Logan
Subject: Synthwave and Retro Electronic
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 10:05
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This topic probably will not get much attention here, and Synthwave is not one that I've explored that much. Definition from https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Synthwave/" rel="nofollow - https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Synthwave/
This is Com Truise's "Data Kiss" off his 2012 album In Decay, which I discovered in the film trailer for "High-Rise". This video uses footage from the 1981 film "Looker": And Kyle Dixon & Michael Stein's Tangerine Dream reminiscent music from Stranger Things: Is there any music that you like from this musical world? I'ma big fan of a lot of Electronic Music, including retro ones such as Kosmischer Läufer. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
https://rateyourmusic.com/genre/Synthwave/ wrote:Replies:
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 10:13
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 10:34
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I've been listening to this comeback of 80's synthwave cheese more than I probably did prog in the last year so I welcome this thread with open arms. There is something refreshing to me in making the sound of 80's more instrumental than pop. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 10:37
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^^ Cymatics: "the study of wave phenomena, esp sound, and their visual representations" -- Collins Dictionary. Thanks, Cristi. It's a very well-done video. ^ thanks George, I'm digging that Betamaxx one. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: Vompatti
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 11:43
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I guess vaporwave is kind of related? Everything on the Bludhoney label is good, mostly leaning quite heavily towards ambient though. |
Posted By: Icarium
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 12:22
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I think Ultravox have songs that are related to this https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_u6dtcjQSNI" rel="nofollow - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_u6dtcjQSNI -------------  
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 13:28
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Not sure if these qualify as Synthwave but as long as it also says Retro Electronic ------------- 
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Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: February 03 2019 at 13:50
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my preferred term is "Erectro" ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 04 2019 at 07:19
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I’m stuck on a little device right now, which makes posting harder. Vompatti, Vaporwave does have a relation in nostalgia (has retro qualities) and a think that there is overlap with Synthwave, and I enjoyed that. I think it tends to rely more on sampling, and jingles and kitsch. Icarium: Ultravox has Inspired retro Synth pop, so there is a musical relation. The track you linked to is from 1980, and that is the period that Synthwave and plenty of retro electronic music evokes. Some big influences on Synthwave would be 80s Vangelis, John Carpenter, Tangerine Dream and Goblin (a fair amount of this retro music I’ve heard might also be classified as Synth pop). Saperlipopette: I enjoyed all of that music greatly. I knew the Umberto, and had heard The Unseen and Vic Mars before. Great reminder, love the music. Indeed, i wanted to cover not just Synthwave but retro electronic music generally (such as those and Kosmischer Laufer). Polymorphia: “Erectro” seems upstanding to me. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: February 12 2019 at 00:01
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https://hante.bandcamp.com/album/fierce this was a nice discovery
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: February 23 2019 at 09:58
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^ Sorry, I had forgooten to check this topic until now, listening, very interesting music. Another By the way, I think "'Erectro' seems upstanding to me" fell flat, but then I do make the most flaccid of jokes. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 01 2019 at 14:03
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^I'm not letting this thread drop off. Good video on that Vitalic one as well, Greg. |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 09:59
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^ Thanks George, I hadn't heard that before. This is more chillwave, but nice. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 10:58
Somehow this thread escaped my notice till now. I seem to be good at overlooking things. 
Love that movie. Com Truise's In Decay (2012) is one of my favorite electronic releases of the last ten years.  As a guy in my fourth (yikes) decade of listening to and enjoying electronic music, I'll read this thread during work. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 11:03
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Heard this one a couple weeks ago. Nicely evocative of '80s Jan Hammer. ------------- https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_ipg=50&_sop=1&_rdc=1&_ssn=musicosm" rel="nofollow - eBay |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 02 2019 at 12:21
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^ I did find your absence conspicuous. I'm glad you're here now. In Decay is excellent, I feel. I enjoyed the Prism, thanks. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: March 20 2019 at 05:56
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Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: March 20 2019 at 06:27
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A few recommandations: I made a synthwave youtube playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqf2srRfppHAFWLTFSeG1LrMu_tEnF0EV" rel="nofollow - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqf2srRfppHAFWLTFSeG1LrMu_tEnF0EV ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqf2srRfppHAslEmHBn8QP6d_eoanh0eW" rel="nofollow - My compositions |
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: March 23 2019 at 06:06
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: March 23 2019 at 06:24
| http://boyharsher.bandcamp.com/album/careful" rel="nofollow - http://boyharsher.bandcamp.com/album/careful |
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: April 14 2019 at 02:52
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Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: April 29 2019 at 14:00
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Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: May 22 2019 at 16:28
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: June 07 2019 at 09:18
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Posted By: Kotro
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 02:56
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Donner, a side-project from White Willow's Jacob-Holm Lupo: https://donner.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - https://donner.bandcamp.com/releases ------------- Bigger on the inside. |
Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 06:41
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Well that was all mostly awful and not really either synthwave or retro electronic S1973... http://https://yeahiknowitsucks.wordpress.com/2019/01/01/quimper-elapsed-songs-2018/" rel="nofollow - http://https://quimper.bandcamp.com/album/elapsed-songs-2018" rel="nofollow - Quimper is pretty cool and so is this -------------
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 10:33
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I wrote a really long, researched post responding to each of the suggestions I hadn't yet responded to two weeks ago, but then I didn't post it as a certain dread took hold. That old fear of, am I going over the top, and will this add to a discussion, and also I'm no expert when it comes to such music. I tend to use the term retrowave now for what I meant by synthwave. Quimper was very cool, and quite unexpected. Really enjoyed it. I loved that Civil Defence is Common Sense, and that is very much what I was hoping for in the retro-electronic realm. That is one that I am sure I had come across before at some time. That got me to explore more of his (it's Jon Brooks, who also went by King of Woolworths, Clesse, and I don't know how many aliases). This Jon Brooks I like a lot; Anyway he does a lot of good retro, from synthwave to earlier retro electronic music. various interesting music here from Kafe Kaput: https://cafekaput.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - https://cafekaput.bandcamp.com/ As for Donner, I enjoyed the first few tracks (kind of a mixed bag), I'm not that big on synthpop (Cristi's Plunder wasn't quite right for me either). The 80s retro that I was referring to tends to reference / be reminiscent of acts such as Goblin, Fabio Frizzo, John Carpenter, Tangerine Dream. For that reason most of what S973 posted is not doing it for me (I would describe that stuff as 80s pop dance remixes rather than what I meant by Synthwave as defined in my first post (liked his second track the most). I like music that is more reminiscent of the era rather than just remixes (think Kosmischer Läufer's approach to retro). I do also like music of the "plunderphonics" ilk. As for Modrigue, that's some "classic", sounding Synthwave, plus Darkwave as as I recall when I listened to it before. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 12:59
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Oh is all this late 90s Tangerine Dream stuff I have been listening to lately Synthwave? ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 14:28
I'm no expert, but in one sense I'd say sure, and in another sense no. In one sense synthwave could be any music with synthesiser sounds, but as a genre it generally is considered to be a 2005 and up phenomenon that takes inspiration and is evocative and nostaglic of certain 80s music.. It's not in the way that I defined it in my first post using the rateyourmusic definition. 80s Tangerine Dream was a synthwave inspiration, as was Vangelis, Goblin, Jarre, Frizzi, Wendy Carlos and John Carpenter amongst others.. I guess that 90s TD sounds quite like late 80s TD, but I'd put music there more in the New Age camp than what I'd expect of Synthwave, such as retro-futuristic electronic music. Here's what wikipedia says:
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 14:57
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By the way, this trailer is what got me to explore Synthwave (love the film, by the way): Com Truise's Data Kiss (full track in my first post) still remains my favourite piece that I have heard of that ilk. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: June 08 2019 at 22:56
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^ I quite like it, but am thinking much of this genre would dilute my appreciation of TD and would rather explore them further. ------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 03:58
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Well, I love Tangerine Dream (especially in the 70s), and am much more into "Progressive Electronic" (Kosmische and others) to Synthwave (as defined earlier, though I do like various Com Truise and some others considerably): Tangerine Dream, Igor Wakhevitch, Zanov, Franco Leprino, Klaus Schulze, Anna Sjalv Tredje, Edgar Froese, Bobby Beausoleil, Mort Garson, Cluster, Richard Pinhas, Kraftwerk, Ose, Heldon, Harmonia, White Noise, Automat, Conrad Schnitzler, Jean Guérin etc. I love. My favourite of the retro electronic acts so far is Kosmischer Läufer (that Civil Defence is Common Sense is most of that ilk in this thread). Kosmischer Läufer's The Secret Cosmic Music of the East German Olympic Program 1972-83 Vols 1-4 I think evokes/mimics Kosmische/ Berlin School of the era brilliantly. It would be an interesting one for someone into earlier Tangerine Dream and related music. But if you haven't explored a lot of Electronic music from the 70s to early 80s yet, then I might wait a bit on that one. Progressive Electronic is one of my favourite categories in PA. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: 2dogs
Date Posted: June 09 2019 at 07:59
Actually I do like progressive electronic music right back to the 50s and 60s and earlier but was making the point that TD had already "combined House music with elements of 1980s Electronic music" before 2000. I like 70s TD copyists like Cosmic Ground when they get played on Krautrock-world web radio and that last "Sandtrommel" was a nice mixture of Kraftwerk, Cluster and TD but am a bit suspicious of retro, revival and fake musical movements in general and prefer to purchase the originals. It's also getting ridiculous when the people currently operating under the TD name actually cover a pastiche of an earlier incarnation of TD  .Still, if the genre doesn't start until 2005 I will skip TDs first four Dream Mixes albums and post a couple of remixes of 1980s tracks from the 2010 Dream Mixes V  .------------- "There is nothing new except what has been forgotten" - Marie Antoinette |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: June 16 2019 at 06:48
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Synthwave is fantastic. I find myself listening to lots of vaporwave lately. Good stuff! ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: June 17 2019 at 06:58
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I thought I'd mention Dallas Campell, he's here under PE (mainly for his more minimalist work). The list of synths he uses is simply impressive. https://magichappened.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - https://magichappened.bandcamp.com
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 13:10
Love that, thank you.  An interesting retro case is "Klaus Morlock". https://klausmorlock.bandcamp.com/" rel="nofollow - https://klausmorlock.bandcamp.com/ ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 16:03
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: June 18 2019 at 17:18
That's true about TD already making music in a similar way, but I find they lack the same sense of nostalgia and sentimentality of 80s horror and sci-fi films, TV shows etc., which is part of the appeal of Synthwave. It's kind of schlocky. I'd heard TD's version of Stranger Things, and I think the concept is fun. I actually appreciate the ridiculous often. I definitely enjoy Cosmic Ground and some other ones that evoke an earlier era. I enjoy retro quite a bit, and if say, Kosmischer Läufer had been from the 70s/ 80s, I would still love the music. In that case, I appreciate the whole story and hoaxiness of it. It's one that I'm sure people have been fooled by. Jon Brooks and Klaus Moorlock I find interesting too. I'm not really a fan of SYnthwave as I don't tend to appreciate house music, and I'm not generally big on re-mixes. What interests me most here is music that evokes the feel of earlier Electronic music (be it 50s, 60s, 70s, early 80s...) and music that references certain cultural phenomena. I'm personally not interested in the ones that re-mix 80s pop and disco music (and add a beat), or really in simple re-mixes. The more interesting ones to me are those that have original music that sound of an earlier era, or update that sound but evoke a sense of nostalgia. I'm more impressed by someone who comes up with original music that sounds like it could have been released decades ago than someone who takes existing music and turns into a house dance track, for instance. That said, I have heard some interesting and creative sampling and there can be a real art to that and various editing processes, but most of it does not strike me as that "inspired". As for Tangerine Dream, I'm definitely most into the 70s period (I tend to return to the early half of the 70s ones the most, but grew to appreciate later releases). Generally, I also prefer to listen to music of its time, but I can appreciate and love music that evokes another time and "takes me back". While a comedy actor and having much comedy music, I love Matt Berry's retro music. This one would fit this topic as something of a tribute to earlier artists' music. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: Meltdowner
Date Posted: June 19 2019 at 11:12
One album of the genre I've been returning the most is Todd Terje's sole album: |
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: June 30 2019 at 19:13
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Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: August 23 2019 at 01:20
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: October 06 2019 at 18:42
Posted By: patrickq
Date Posted: October 06 2019 at 19:46
| so is there a subgenre in here somewhere that could be added to ProgArchives? |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 06 2019 at 23:33
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I think our bases are covered well enough with the categories we have, although I would like some sub-subgenres, but then mostly I'd like individual album tagging and multi-tagging. I think our Progressive Electronic category mostly suffices. Whatever Synthwave might be found PA appropriate, then it might find itself there (some albums we have in there could be called synthwave, alos depends on the working definition, see page one and two), and some retro electronic is suitable for existent PA categories (be it Progressive Electronic, Krautrock....), and is in PA. It would be more on a case-by-case basis than adding new categories. I'm more into the Kosmischer Läufer (it's in Krautrock) retro type thing, Klaus Morlock, Jon Brooks, loved the Dallas Campbell (almost wrote Cowbell) which is in Progressive Electronic, That Civil Defence is Common Sense, etc. but do really enjoy some Synthwave (especially that Com Truise). I'm not keen on the dance music/80s pop with a beat type stuff. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: October 30 2019 at 04:35
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Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: November 11 2019 at 22:08
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: January 08 2020 at 14:02
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 28 2020 at 06:14
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I totally missed this thread but am definitely going to trawl through it for recs. I love this type of floating velvety synth music. Also have some recs of my own but that’s for later as I’m currently in the process of singing songs that never existed with my mad buddy from work  Also hi Greg, always a pleasure  ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: January 29 2020 at 07:41
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Now pardon me if this isn’t exactly the type of music that’s been posted the most in here, but I gather folks with an affinity for this kind of velvety tapestries would enjoy Lindstrøm. The following album is a chillax adventure that both sounds like an electronic and wafting take on disco..but also manages to spice things up with a certain Klaus Schulzesque feel to the proceedings. I really dig this album: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4I4rQRJI4l4 ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: March 01 2020 at 23:16
Posted By: S1973
Date Posted: March 19 2020 at 23:28
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 20 2020 at 02:08
Hi, sorry, I think I was on hiatus from this site at the time. Welcome to the 80s retro dance mix party thread. :)
I have now listened to that album, and did indeed dig it very much myself. Listening again and I'm really very into it. Great groove, funky and fresh. Ah, I love this. It's a little like if your Berlin school had a disco in it. Reminds me a touch of Jerry Goldmsith (Logan's Run from which my username derives) meets Moroder and Doldinger (touch of Neverending Story) meets Vangelis, Schulze, take some ecstasy, dance like freaks, then possibly vomit sometime later. ;) It's hypnotic. It's reminding me so much of something right now at 24 minutes, and I can't quite pinpoint what it is, but I really love this (I know it's from a soundtrack -- a Vangelis perhaps). It will come to me. The second half feels so different again. Really appreciate the recommendation, and sorry for thanking you so belatedly. I really hope your body pain eases, and you manage to stay safe during this epidemic. If this is the apocalypse, I can think of worse things than a discapocalypse. Terrific recommendation; thanks so much! I liked it at first and this time it really hit me just how much (it's late with no distractions). ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: Guests
Date Posted: March 20 2020 at 05:59
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That Lindstrom really is something, reminiscent of some actual progressive electronic stuff from the 80's on the site but just overall better at embracing disco sounds. Thanks for that, David. In the spirit of keeping synthwave going, here's something cute I came upon. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 20 2020 at 06:14
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I love what I'm hearing. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: March 20 2020 at 06:14
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT0gRc2c2wQ" rel="nofollow - Boards of Canada - Roygbiv Sorry I don't know how to embed. ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Guldbamsen
Date Posted: March 21 2020 at 03:57
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Good to see Lindstrøm going down a treat Every year once the weather turns for the warmer and sunlight starts to appear I usually spin a lot of electronic music. Lindstrøm in particular has been a fave of mine the last couple of summers. Nice to see BOC getting mentioned. Since their last album I’ve heard little to nothing regarding the group. 7 years should suffice in order to produce a new album methinks... ------------- “The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.” - Douglas Adams |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 21 2020 at 10:10
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I like Boards of Canada a lot. Music Has the Right to Children is a fine album. The Campfire Headphase is a favourite of mine. With embedding youtube videos, there is another way using the full reply editor, but I manually "tag" it with BB code. So with https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT0gRc2c2wQ you only copy the unique identifier after v= , which is in this case, yT0gRc2c2wQ Then you do this without the spaces: [tube ]yT0gRc2c2wQ[ /tube] That Sloslylove I like too. This isn't what this topic is about, since this is not modern music that evokes, or sounds like past music, but this is what originally led me to so much of this ilk (partially because the film resonated with me so deeply, which I first saw when I was 12): ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: tamijo_II
Date Posted: March 21 2020 at 12:53
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ok ok You lost me, comes a day in everyone’s life where to have to pull yourself together, stand up for your ears and scream: NOOooooooo ------------- Same person as this profile: http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22524" rel="nofollow - Tamijo |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: March 21 2020 at 18:48
"Not until we are lost do we begin to understand ourselves" (Henry David Thoreau). We're posting at the forum of a site that includes Dream Theater in its database, so I rather think we cannot fairly be terribly discriminating when it comes to music -- terrible or not.*  *No real offence intended towards any Dream Theater fans. De gustibus non est disputandum. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |
Posted By: Modrigue
Date Posted: December 04 2021 at 04:40
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Hello everybody, Here is my first synthwave / space disco compo. Hope you'll like it  :------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLqf2srRfppHAslEmHBn8QP6d_eoanh0eW" rel="nofollow - My compositions |