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Topic: updated fav punk bands
Posted By: Hemispheres
Subject: updated fav punk bands
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:17
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so what is it im probbably forgeting a few bands but i did the best i could ------------- [IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg"> |
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:30
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PUNK SUCKS!!!
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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:39
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u always seem to have clever intelligent thoughtful things to say miracle like punks sucks ------------- [IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg"> |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:42
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I was never a huge punk fan but I love Bad Brains,very different from the usual punk bands -------------  |
Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 18:54
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http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/whendinosaursromaedtheearth.htm - One of millions of good reasons to hate punk http://www.punk77.co.uk/punkhistory/dinosaurspart2.htm">Part two and there is much more to it than that... ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Hemispheres wrote:
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 20:45
| Television, Minutemen, Pere Ubu |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 21:04
Today, Hüsker Dü. Punk to my ears is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much better than Symphonic Prog that's almost funny! 
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Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 22:02
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So many GREAT bands.... but a strange selection though. Wouldn't really call Talking Heads, Velvet Underground, Television, Devo, Pere Ubu and a few others there punk. No Clash, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Crass, plus loads of others?? And even though I wouldn't call The Stooges punk that's who I've voted for. Iggy's the man....! I suppose you could call them proto punk along with the New York Dolls who are not there either. O no! here we go (neo-punk, post-punk, punk-collabrators, etc)  ------------- http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/contentChapterView.asp?chapter=309" rel="nofollow - Humanism |
Posted By: GoldenSpiral
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 22:07
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I voted Dead Kennedys, but where's Fugazi!!!!! and the Clash!!! and btw, Wire are post-punk, not punk. ------------- http://www.myspace.com/altaic" rel="nofollow - http://www.myspace.com/altaic ALTAIC "Oceans Down You'll Lie" coming soon |
Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 22:44
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i guess this list means all kinds of punk Proto Punk,Post Punk,Hardcore or whatever godamnitt how could i forget The Clash That was stupid sorry ------------- [IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg"> |
Posted By: Zac M
Date Posted: October 07 2005 at 23:31
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Joy Division
------------- "Art is not imitation, nor is it something manufactured according to the wishes of instinct or good taste. It is a process of expression." -Merleau-Ponty |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 00:46
... What? So Dead Kennedys ain't punk either, because they're Hardcore...  ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 07:57
Hardcore's a development of punk; post punk's a reaction to it
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Posted By: horza
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 08:05
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where are the stranglers ? ------------- Originally posted by darkshade: Calling Mike Portnoy a bad drummer is like calling Stephen Hawking an idiot. |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 10:33
Well, I think that Post-punk it's the normal evolution of punk (just like Hardcore is). Anyway, I don't like labelling bands. So it's all punk, and Dead Kennedys is f**kin great! ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 11:13
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Not sure I'd totally agree there (still got a soft spot for some 70s symphonic albums) but I'd take most of that list over most neo prog or prog metal any day. The Fall got my vote in the end. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 11:22
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Indeed! Although they were only really punk in attitude - the music went way beyond punk; for example I'd hardly call "Golden Brown" or "Strange Little Girl" punk, and "Aural Sculptures" was a complete departure. Even "No More Heroes" wasn't pure punk - the structure and arrangement seems closer to the Doors than the Sex Pistols or the Vibrators. And calling the Ramones punk seems dubious, to say the least - and The Fall? Joy Division? That's like saying Stiff Little Fingers or XTC were punk I almost voted for the Buzzcocks as the epitome of punk, but ended up voting for The Damned. I love their cover of "Alone Again Or", and "Machine Gun Etiquette" is a blinding album. Their output is so incredibly varied that it's hard to consider them purely punk. Phantasmagoria has progressive leanings, and certainly a psychedelic 60s edge with tracks like "Grimly Fiendish". "Damned, Damned, Damned" is widely reported to be the very first British Punk album. The Vibrators debut was the third (where are they?) and The Sex Pistols were a lowly 3rd.
I'd also have included the Slits, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Nena Hagen, the Angelic Upstarts, Crass, Sham 69 and Killing Joke, with consideration given to the Clash and Subhumans (a grossly overlooked band, IMO, along with the later incarnations Culture Shock and Citizen Fish, who wrote some amazing music). And what about Plastic Bertrand or the Monks? ...and does anyone remember who did the song "Looking through Gary Gilmour's Eyes"? |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 11:39
Of the 70s symphonic bands, I like Camel and VDGG. Yes, it's not what I really like, but I can hear. But punk, of all types and styles, it's a passion for me. Just like Avant-garde prog, Brian Eno or Stoner Metal, and some others kind of music... The Fall is wonderful! ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:42
| I chose the stooges, talking heads came close as did a lot of others on the list. only pseudo punk? who cares? |
Posted By: Hangedman
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:44
because some punk fans dont like prog? that seems needlessly petty to me. |
Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:52
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Wire and The Velvet Underground are amazing. I went with the VU due to their massive influence on all popular music. On a sidenote, some people on this forum are way too close minded. As soon as they hear the word punk they have a knee-jerk reaction and think of all the stereotypes associated with the genre. Ironically, that's probably how most people view prog. |
Posted By: krusty
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 13:58
I agree with most of this I have always thought of The Stranglers as a Doors influenced band I mean La Folie(?sp) isn't too punk either is it. Did you ever get "The Black Album" by the Dammed as well? Again not very punk.. even has violins on it  Yeah, I was another subhumans fan saw them in a little pub in Putney and they were excelent..What about Rudimentry Peni, Discharge, Vice Squad, Rubella Ballet, in fact alot of the No Future and Crass label acts... Plus I suppose you could include some Oi bands as well.. o the memories... ------------- http://www.humanism.org.uk/site/cms/contentChapterView.asp?chapter=309" rel="nofollow - Humanism |
Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 15:51
You know, Miracle, there are also some prog fans who don't like punk. ------------- 'Like so many of you I've got my doubts about how much to contribute to the already rich among us...' Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom |
Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 16:02
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Found out who did "Gary Gilmore's Eyes" - it was the Adverts. Cracking song with manic lyrics about a murderer on Death Row who decides that he's got no use for his eyes any more, so he donates them to science. http://www.comnet.ca/~rina/adverts.html - http://www.comnet.ca/~rina/adverts.html
I never got to see Subhumans, but I saw Culture Shock many times on the underground circuit (disused warehouse gigs in London, impromtu gigs in fields in the middle of nowhere, that sort of thing), and I saw Citizen Fish at "properly organised" gigs. http://archive.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/2000/citizenfish.html - http://archive.glastonburyfestivals.co.uk/2000/citizenfish.h tml All of Culture Shock's output is sterling stuff - an unutterably perfect blend of ska, punk and Dick's socio-political ramblings that are so mad they're nearly genius. I don't think you can get it on CD though. http://www.citizenfish.com/ - http://www.citizenfish.com/
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 16:09
Actually, these texts are VERY funny... ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 08 2005 at 16:17
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To me, punk is also great because of the lyrics. In one hand, prog rock
ALWAYS had CRAPPY lyrics. But some punk bands really did it well... I
won't even say Dead Kennedys, Jello Biafra (the Noam Chomsky of rock and roll) is
the best lyricist ever. Instead, one absolutely GREAT song of Flipper,
one of the best lyrics I ever had the chance to read. Here it is: Flipper - Ever Ever live a life that's real Full of zest, but no appeal? Ever had to really cry, Cry so much you want to die? Ever feel that you've been had? Had so much that you turn mad? Ever been so depressed, That those you turn to, you bring distress? Ever sit in tormenting silence, That turns so loud, you start to scream? Ever take control of a dream, And play all the parts, and set all the scenes? Ever do nothing And gain nothing from it? Ever feel stupid, And then you know you really are? Ever think you're smart And find out that you aren't? Ever play the fool, And find that you're even worse? Ever look at a flower And hate it? Ever see a couple kissing And get sickened by it? Ever wish the human race didn't exist, And realize you're one too? Ever isn't just one of the most brilliant lyrics on rock and roll, but above all it's a kind of a frightening universal application autobiographical report, showing what exists of more obscure and mediocre in all of us. ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 00:51
WOW!  You've disappointed me, my friend.    And yes, I agree with The Miracle. No need to repeat that ol' beloved phrase you're all familiar with... |
Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 00:53
The Velvet Underground it's pretty good actually.  But, in no way closer to the greatness of prog, for me. |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 01:13
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Bad Brains, Mother's Finest, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Fear  , Nip Drivers, Jim Carroll Band, The Crumbsuckers, Hüsker Dü, X, Gun Club  , just to name a few, but I voted for Dead Kennedys because (like someone else already pointed out), he was one of the primary voices of that era of culture and music ("he" being Jello Biafra, of course).
BTW, I think punk had one thing in common with prog in that its music represented a conscious attempt to produce something different, heartfelt, and emotional. Two of the many differences are that 1. Punk was so infused with destructive behaviour that it largely bought about its own demise through simple attrition (kind of like religious cults that preach celibacy 2. Punks's best days are behind it because the genre pretty much stopped growing after 1979 or so (IMHO). ------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
Posted By: ClemofNazareth
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 01:20
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BTW, Devo is considered punk?! By who?
------------- "Peace is the only battle worth waging." Albert Camus |
[0.00%]Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 01:45
funny, yeah. And sad ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 09:08
there early stuff is considered to be post punk ------------- [IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg"> |
Posted By: Fantômas
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 13:40
Sorry, I didn't mean to hurt you...  ------------- And above all, is punk
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Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 09 2005 at 17:42
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^ It's OK.
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Posted By: Wally
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 05:40
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Posted By: Phil
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 05:56
| This poll shows I guess the difference between what a Brit considers punk and an American might. To my mind e.g Talking Heads, Velvet Underground are definitely NOT punk. Of the above list the best band for me is either Talking Heads or Television, but the best punk band...and they were OK.... were the Clash. That's not me saying" I like them so put them on the list"...they were considered by many the best of what punk - at least in Britain - was about; angry young men with strong political messages, and some good tumes. Your list really is incomplete without them!! |
Posted By: America2k1
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 06:16
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Mine's Bad Religion. Why are proto- and post-punk bands on the list? And would you really want to include emo (Fugazi, for instance) on a Punk poll? ------------- 
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 10 2005 at 08:41
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The Stooges I love thire "Fun House" album, no doubt one of the best punk albums ever made ------------- 
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Posted By: ShaunoNoNo
Date Posted: October 11 2005 at 17:25
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Minor Threat. hXc ------------- 
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Posted By: NutterAlert
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 04:58
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Its The Clash for me. Not on the list but Punk credentials, although they also touched on reggae, ska & jazz. They had a talented guitarist who even had long hair (well by punk standards in '77). Saw them in '78 I think and have liked them ever since. ------------- Proud to be an un-banned member since 2005 |
Posted By: NetsNJFan
Date Posted: October 12 2005 at 12:26
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The Clash is the only punk band I can tolerate at all. Punk ------------- 
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Posted By: Certif1ed
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 17:23
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Check out some of these Citizen Fish lyrics; You were too radical, cynical, political Scarily relevant nearly 20 years on...
I just thought of 2 more greats that are missing; Misfits and Fear. |
Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 20:18
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If you consider Velvet Underground punk (I think they're more experimental than punk) then there you go. I only like "All Tomorrow's Parties" and a few more from "Velvent Underground and Nico", nothing else. Punk makes me sick. ------------- http://soundcloud.com/drewagler" rel="nofollow - My soundcloud. Please give feedback if you want! |
Posted By: Pr@gmatic
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 21:10
Agreed.
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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 22:10
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punk must die ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/ocellatedgod" rel="nofollow - last.fm |
Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: October 13 2005 at 23:41
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i think u should u all should try the song ill in the head by the dead kennedys even the most close minded progger could enjoy it the verse is very zappa influenced ------------- [IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg"> |
Posted By: daz2112
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 11:55
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Buzzcocks ------------- In the constellation of cygnus,There lurks a mysterious force...The black hole |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 15:35
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I don't like punk.
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Posted By: tardis
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 16:38
| The Ramones |
Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: January 22 2006 at 17:01
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Where is the only punk band I can stand? The Clash??? ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 03:14
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Velvet Underground from the list if they are punk at all. The more tolerable bands from the list+Stranglers +Clash move beyond punk. |
Posted By: Norbert
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 03:16
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 03:52
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What no Clash on this list? Well since my fave are not there I hesitated between the Ramones (lotsa fun) Stooges (raw energy ) , but went with Talking Heads (athough not really punk, either as are the Stranglers). ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: BaldFriede
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 05:21
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Some mentioned the Stranglers; but the Stranglers are more prog than punk (indeed I wouldn't mind the addition of the Stranglers to the archives at all. They used real polyphony in some of their songs, a trait even most accepted prog-bands don't master. Their album "Black and White" definitely is a prog album).
As for my favourite punk band (and they are progressive punk, in a way): Inner City Unit. I highly recommend "Pass Out!", "Punkadelic" and "The President Tapes". Oh, and I would hardly call Joy Division a punk band. Neither are the Velvet Underground or the Talking Heads. -------------  BaldJean and I; I am the one in blue. |
Posted By: JayDee
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 08:21
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The Clash! From that list: Ramones ------------- 
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Posted By: Atkingani
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 08:31
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RAMONES appear twice in the list. ------------- Guigo ~~~~~~ |
Posted By: SolariS
Date Posted: January 24 2006 at 13:29
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i guess i just never really "got" punk. maybe these are just misconceptions, but it always seemed to me to be a genre more concerned about rebellion and political angst than about music. personally i never found enough musical intricacy/originality to interest me. i would say i dont like punk for the same reason i dont like grunge. it's a form of music whose central focus is not the music. honestly i'm not trying to put down punk at all, but does anybody else have this conception of punk or am i just off base?
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Posted By: Spacemac
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 11:38
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Joy Division forever
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Posted By: Hemispheres
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 15:15
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Damn i just noticed ha ha ------------- [IMG]http://www.wheresthatfrom.com/avatars/miguelsanchez.gif">[IMG]http://www.rockphiles.com/all_images/Act_Images/TheMothersOfInvention/mothers300.jpg"> |
Posted By: Soul Dreamer
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 20:37
| I voted for Joy Division, allthough I never even considered that punk. Where are the Stranglers? I bought the "No more Herous" album when it came out in 1977 and I never regretted that, I still think it's an excellent album (and even give it an occasional spin sometimes), and in those days they were certainly considered punk. |
Posted By: Mongo
Date Posted: January 25 2006 at 22:18
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The Dickies- "Stukas Over Disneyland" rocks ------------- "The options are ever fewer on the ground these days" Fish |
Posted By: Isca Riot
Date Posted: January 26 2006 at 06:57
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I was a huge punk (not post-punk, but skatepunk, hardcore punk, hardcore, ska, etc.) fan before I got into progressive/alternative rock (which was only couple of months ago...). During that time, I found it completely impossible to listen to anything that wasn't punk or political.. how shallow is that? And now that's how I see punk in general - simple, regressive all-sounds-the-same music. Obviously, there are a few punk bands that stick out, and I still listen to some a bit (none really on that list, apart from Dead Kennedys... infrequently). I have to thank Porcupine Tree for finally breaking the musical forcefield I created around myself. I guess punk is kind of the opposite of the musical spectrum to progressive rock (that progresses) - as punk is about keeping it simple and not exploring (lyrics and music), while prog is about expanding the musical boundaries and being creative, complex and experimental. It seems ironic that punk, a majorly left-wing orientated genre, has a rather conservative and traditional sound. I have a friend who's "punk", clothing and accessories included, and he's a living contradiction. |