These students are antisemitic. Plain and simple.
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Topic: These students are antisemitic. Plain and simple.
Posted By: bardberic
Subject: These students are antisemitic. Plain and simple.
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 17:18
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The so-called "Pro-Palestine" protests on the campuses of Elite American universities are driven by antisemitic rhetoric, and nothing else. These far-left extremists don't understand what they're "protesting" and their motivation is driven entirely but their desire to fit-in with "like-minded" people. The mentality that goes into this is essentially a bully complex and these so-called "students" are selfishly interrupting classes and disrupting everyone else's education to protect their own insecurities, some of whom are, you know, actually serious about their studies. Shame on every single one of them - what f**king they nerve they have to ruin everybody else's education and waste their time, money, and energy. They should be immediately expelled, and the violent ones put on a federal watchlist. If I were in charge of Columbia, I'd have called the National Guard by now. Shame on the media companies for using this as an opportunity to push their own false narrative - "Peaceful Protests" my f**king ass. Jewish students are literally being targeted on campus, those who have no interest or toes to Israel. Being shoured at "Go back to Poland!," "f**k you Yehudis!," etc. Physically attacked by mobs of students who have literally been indoctrinated by a terrorist organization. "We are Hamas!," they shout. These victims have been hospitalized for Jewish and literally just being on campus. This is not about the Palestinians. This is straight up antisemitism. They couldn't give a flying f**k about the Palestinian people. These students are selfish and only care what their radicalized peers think of them. How are they block Jewish students from entering certain buildings. That's literally what the Nazis did in the 1930s. That's not "tolerance," as they like to claim it is. And how is painted in the headlines? Universities shut down peaceful protestors and oppress their free speech? No! They're protecting the safety of Jewish students. The conduct of these "protestors" is unacceptable in 2024. Intolerable. And what I'm most outraged about. The so-called "leader" of the Columbia protests. "Zionists do not deserve to live... I fight to kill." He said. Directly to the administration of the university. He literally threatened death to the majority of the world's Jewish population. I expect this when Hamas has literally infiltrated our American school campuses abs spread radical propaganda. But the fact that he got away with it, with literally no consequences pisses me the f**k off. He needs to be expelled with his earned credits revoked, banned from campus, and put on a federal watchlist. He has endangered the lives of Jews not just in the Columbia campus, but all over the world. If he assaults it kills someone, it's premeditated at this point. There's no "self-defense" case. He claims every zionist deserves to die for their beliefs. That is HATE speech, which is NOT protected by the first amendment as what he said threatens the first amendment. I can't f**king tolerate this and I won't accept it. I'm meeting with my local congressman and demanding something be done to end shut down these antisemitic rallies and hold the universities accountable for the the safety and inclusivity of their Jewish students. I'm also permanently relocating to Israel where I'm guaranteed safety because obviously American authorities don't give a flying f**k. I'm so done with this and I really don't give a sh*t about anything else anymore. Ban me got this rent if you want. I don't care. |
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Posted By: Grumpyprogfan
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 17:40
| I feel your frustration, but who is going to guarantee your safety in Israel? |
Posted By: Hrychu
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 18:19
 Just kidding in case you can't tell. ;) ------------- “On the day of my creation, I fell in love with education. And overcoming all frustration, a teacher I became.” — Ernest Vong |
bardberic wrote:Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 20:04
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^ I would, being part jewish. It's not about where Poland is on the international stage, it's hateful rhetoric because Poland was the safe-haven for European jews before being attacked by the Nazis. I get you were joking... Never mind these fake self-victimizers who hold Palestinian flags, chants of "we love anti-fada and Hamas" & whatever from actual Palestinians is sickening and has no place on college campuses! Imagine literally escalating to the point of forcing our local buddy to emigrate to Israel, where he feels safe. American democracy my a**. It's plain and simple, under Hamas leadership there is no two-state solution merely because Palestine will not accept it unless they can terrorize or wipe Israel off the map. Israel retaliate and commit 'genocide'. Go figure Stay well, my friend!
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 20:21
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^ Standing up for yourself can mean losing friends. It's the price of courage in the face of ignorance. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: April 26 2024 at 20:25
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^ Well said
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Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 03:57
Netanyahu supported Hamas.https://www.timesofisrael.com/for-years-netanyahu-propped-up-hamas-now-its-blown-up-in-our-faces/ https://www.thenation.com/article/world/why-netanyahu-bolstered-hamas/ https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2023/10/16/how-benjamin-netanyahu-empowered-hamas/ https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/10/world/middleeast/israel-qatar-money-prop-up-hamas.html
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 04:20
You use a lot of words for someone pretending not giving a sh*t... Adopting Netanyahu's rhetoric by making believe it is "plain and simple" doesn't make it that; it just shows your intolerance. It is that famous binary "if you're not with us, you're against us" logic that is at the core of the problem and both "sides" (and by that I mean Hamas vs Netanyahu and his government; not Israel vs Palestine) are guilty of oversimplification, because it serves their - extremist - ideologies. Hamas has to be combated and condemned, just as Netanyahu and his genocidal government. A majority of Palestinians and Israelis want peace. Now, to bring in some nuance that you are lacking, here are some interesting opinion pieces, starting with some words from a couple of students involved (which doesn't mean that some students aren't antisemitic, it just shows that it is not valid for all "these" students): https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/apr/26/college-protests-israel-gaza" rel="nofollow - Four students on why they’re protesting against war in Gaza: ‘Injustice should not be accepted’ Robert Reich:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/23/israel-gaza-campus-protests" rel="nofollow - Protesting
against slaughter – as students in the US are doing – isn’t
antisemitism Jonathan Freedland: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/26/jews-palestinians-peace-gaza-narcissist-allies" rel="nofollow - Most Jews and Palestinians want peace. Extremists, narcissists and other ‘allies’ only block the way Judith Levine: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/apr/25/pro-palestine-israel-language-conflict" rel="nofollow - Why we need to stop using ‘pro-Palestine’ and ‘pro-Israel’ ------------- The razamataz is a pain in the bum |
Posted By: presdoug
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 06:16
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Posted By: Valdez1
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 17:19
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I like Bernie Sanders Take on this matter, and I am no fan of Bernies.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 17:39
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It's not possible for Palestineans to be anit-Semitic because they ARE Semitic. Semitic refers to a language family that includes Arabic, Hebrew, Amharic, Maltese, Akkadian etc The term has been corrupted to mean anti-Jewish but if you look up the word Semitic is has nothing to do with Judaism. Adding the prefix anti- to any word NEVER changes its meaning in English therefore this term in reference to Judaism is nothing but a media corruption The correct terminology when it comes to these issues is anti-Zionism because Zionism is an ideology that most self-identifying Jews do not espouse. You do not have to be Jewish to be a Zionist as evidenced by the leaders of the world If the public is so easily swayed by such terminological distortions then it's little wonder they keep spinning their wheels regarding these issues Calling someone anti-Semitic for not supporting an illegal (by UN and international law) occupation is a gross b*****dization of the term In linguistic terms anti-Semitic refers to hatred towards ANY Semitic language speaking peoples which Arabs and Palestinians are very much a part of Linguists and scholars do not use this term as the media has brainwashed everyone else to use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people" rel="nofollow - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Semitic_people -------------  https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: Rottenprogger
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 17:51
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Anti-Zionism ≠ Antisemitism Calling students protesting (including a lot of Jewish ones) the ongoing genocide in Gaza out as bigots and cheering on the police brutality against said protesters is what fascists do. Full stop. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 18:39
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^ I'd tend to agree-- you can be against a pro-Hamas stance and also support the right to protest. In the same way one may've been against communist regimes but also strongly against the obvious stupidity of the Vietnam war. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 19:29
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In response to siLLy_puPPy, definitions evolve over time. Today, the term antisemitism is defined as the hostility, prejudice, and discrimination of Jews. The origins don't matter. You can look it up. Wikipedia or any dictionary. The original point of the protests were to demand divestment of university funding from Israel and Israeli related entities as well as from military. In that sense, you can say the protesters are anti-Zionists. The protests are similar in nature to the anti-apartheid protests in the 80s that demanded the divestiture from South Africa. That was during my time in college. Are there individuals who are antisemitic among those protestors? Most likely. Have there been hateful things said? Yes. Pro Palestine is not equivalent to supporting Hamas or being antisemetic. It would be simple if all the protestors were anti-semetic and violent in order to justify police crackdowns, but that isn't the case. And when you start using police action as being preemptive action, then you begin to infringe on personal freedoms and encroach on authoritarianism. |
Posted By: mathman0806
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 19:40
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 19:50
This term didn't evolve. It was propagated through PR campaigns. Regardless, there is no agreed upon meaning of Jew for that matter. Jew refers to a member of a religion. In that regard many do not acknowledge Jews as a distinct ethnicity. The term antisemitism was created to deflect the difference between members of Judaism and those who espouse Zionist supremacy. Many of us do not use a faux word like antisemitism as it is a psychological trigger for a non sequitur. Believe it or not intelligence agencies like the CIA have created such words to steer the public into swallowing a certain desired agenda. ------------- https://rateyourmusic.com/~siLLy_puPPy |
Posted By: omphaloskepsis
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 20:51
| Perhaps the students hate genocides. |
Posted By: Zappastolethetowels
Date Posted: April 27 2024 at 23:01
This term didn't evolve. It was propagated through PR campaigns. Regardless, there is no agreed upon meaning of Jew for that matter. Jew refers to a member of a religion. In that regard many do not acknowledge Jews as a distinct ethnicity. The term antisemitism was created to deflect the difference between members of Judaism and those who espouse Zionist supremacy. Many of us do not use a faux word like antisemitism as it is a psychological trigger for a non sequitur. Believe it or not intelligence agencies like the CIA have created such words to steer the public into swallowing a certain desired agenda. I feel anti-semitism is not used enough, because if college campuses took the extremity of the situation into their own hands, you would not be seeing so much of these 'peaceful protests' ending in more jewish students and professors being subjugated to hate crimes and harassment (even physical violence). If the CIA sent one message, it's "anti-semitism is ok, so more of this belittlement of innocent people (who have nothing to do with the war or even Jewish faith) will indirectly restrain Israeli retaliation to Hamas.
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Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 28 2024 at 06:08
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^ you need to study your history for it to make sense Start with the founding of Zionism by Theodor Herzl in 1897 And then learn about how Israel was created as a strategic military output in the Middle East for the British Crown (function(){if (!document.body) return;var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'87b6eb238d119692',t:'MTcxNDMwNTkwNS4zMDYwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: April 28 2024 at 07:48
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Israel was not created as a strategic military outpost (I assume this is the word you wanted to use as opposed to output, which makes even less sense) in the Middle East for the British Crown. I have never read such rubbish. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: siLLy puPPy
Date Posted: April 28 2024 at 08:41
Oh the ignorance is so thick you can barely cut it with a knife. Grow the f--k up and learn some history. EXCERPT: With the collapse of the https://www.history.com/topics/ottoman-empire" rel="nofollow - Ottoman Empire during https://www.history.com/topics/world-war-i" rel="nofollow - World War I , Britain took over Palestine. In 1917, Britain issued the “ https://www.history.com/topics/balfour-declaration" rel="nofollow - Balfour Declaration ,”
which declared its intent to establish a Jewish homeland in Palestine.
Although protested by the Arab states, the Balfour Declaration was
included in the British mandate over Palestine, which was authorized by
the https://www.history.com/topics/league-of-nations" rel="nofollow - League of Nations
in 1922. Because of Arab opposition to the establishment of any Jewish
state in Palestine, British rule continued throughout the 1920s and
’30s. Read the whole article for more detail. I have read entire tomes about this and there is NO controversy between those who know what the F they're talking about. Maybe it's time you empty the rubbish and refill the bin with nutritious insight. http://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/state-of-israel-proclaimed" rel="nofollow - https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/state-of-israel-proclaimed (function(){if (!document.body) return;var js = "window['__CF$cv$params']={r:'87b7cbc68a222385',t:'MTcxNDMxNTEwNi40ODkwMDA='};_cpo=document.createElement('script');_cpo.nonce='',_cpo.src='/cdn-cgi/challenge-platform/scripts/jsd/main.js',document.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_cpo);";var _0xh = document.createElement('iframe');_0xh.height = 1;_0xh.width = 1;_0xh.style.position = 'absolute';_0xh.style.top = 0;_0xh.style.left = 0;_0xh.style.border = 'none';_0xh.style.visibility = 'hidden';document.body.appendChild(_0xh);function handler() {var _0xi = _0xh.contentDocument || _0xh.contentWindow.document;if (_0xi) {var _0xj = _0xi.createElement('script');_0xj.innerHTML = js;_0xi.getElementsByTagName('head')[0].appendChild(_0xj);}}if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {handler();} else if (window.addEventListener) {document.addEventListener('DOMContentLoaded', handler);} else {var prev = document.onreadystatechange || function () {};document.onreadystatechange = function (e) {prev(e);if (document.readyState !== 'loading') {document.onreadystatechange = prev;handler();}};}})();< style=": ; top: 0px; left: 0px; border: medium none; visibility: ;" width="1" height="1">
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Posted By: suitkees
Date Posted: April 28 2024 at 09:29
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^ You can accuse someone of ignorance, but maybe you should learn to
read...I read the article you linked to and nothing in that history
article leads to what you are claiming about that "Israel was created as a strategic military outpost", unless one has a very particular
talent for overinterpretation, reading into and distorting what has been
written. You are giving a very particular and erroneous reading of what
is otherwise considered to be common knowledge. But well, it must be
the CIA that has indoctrinated us - common knowledge - to the bone... You
dared to
https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=130471&PID=6102633#6102633" rel="nofollow - claim
that the CIA invented the term "conspiracy theory" as you dare to claim
https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=132892&PID=6136149#6136149" rel="nofollow - now
that they - or other intelligence agencies - invented the term
https://www.etymonline.com/word/anti-Semitism" rel="nofollow - antisemitism .
Don't think the CIA, nor their colleagues, existed already in the 19th
century... Still, you seem to be convinced about this kind of nonsense.
Your choice, but neither historical nor factual. Believe what you want
to believe but you are profoundly sticking your head into the sand of
"alternative facts". Your choice! When your thousands of hours of studying and researching
these kind of topics lead you to utter this kind of nonsense, maybe you
should question what you have been studying all that time...
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: April 28 2024 at 10:29
Hey you little punk, you better learn some manners or you're gonna get your bullsh*t self knocked on your ass. Bast*rd. ------------- "Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought." -- John F. Kennedy |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: April 28 2024 at 10:49
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Sorry, I don;t like to do such things, but I'm closing this. This topic did not start well and it turned very insulting and hostile clearly breaking the rules. ------------- https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLXcp9fYc6K4IKuxIZkenfvukL_Y8VBqzK" rel="nofollow - Various music I am very into: a youtube playlist with two tracks per act |