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Topic: Pink Floyd AND ROGER to reform?!!!
Posted By: frenchie
Subject: Pink Floyd AND ROGER to reform?!!!
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 19:12
thats right!

it will be 20 years since roger left officially in 2005. And it will be 30 years since wish you were here was released.

if you get the november 2004 issue of Q (uk only i think), there is an article saying that pink floyd are discussing reforming and doing a tour to support the special edition release of WYWH or something. WOW!

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Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 19:12
they are expected to make $100 million or something stupid like that on this tour.

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Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 19:21

Just wait...Roger and Dave will bicker about something and the whole darn thing will be canceled...there are some constants in the world and this is one of them...sorry if I have no faith.



Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 19:55

Nifty! I'll check on google.com to see if it's under "news"



Posted By: frenchie
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 20:09

Quote Just wait...Roger and Dave will bicker about something and the whole darn thing will be canceled...there are some constants in the world and this is one of them...sorry if I have no faith.


too true. somehow i have faith this time. Apparently they have resolved a lot of their differences this time. i dont think they should go back into the studio tho.

let sleeping dogs lie...



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Posted By: maani
Date Posted: October 09 2004 at 21:00

All:

Actually, the official story is as follows.

In Fall 2005, "The Wall" will open on Broadway as a full-length musical.  This required that Waters and Gilmour "play nicely in the sandbox" so that all the legal and financial details could be worked out.  In having to "act nicely," Waters and Gilmour have "agreed to disagree" for the first time.  And while there still seems to be little love lost between them, they are talking (and apparently not solely through lawyers) for the first time as a result of the launching of "The Wall on Broadway."

In this regard, it was actually Gilmour who made an overture (no pun intended) to Waters about a "reunion" - which would basically amount to Waters going on tour with Floyd, if not worldwide then at least in major cities.

If - and it is still a big if - this tour is worked out, the tour itself would not start until after the opening of "The Wall on Broadway" - i.e., in 2006.  So, at the very earliest, Pink Floyd (with Roger Waters) would undertake a world tour in Spring or Summer of 2006.

I'll keep you informed of any further details I learn.  Oh, and how do I know all this?  All I can tell you is that I have an "in" on Gilmour's doings...

Peace.



Posted By: Lunarscape
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 00:15

Thanks maani, I do believe that tis time its not only "Wishful Thinking" from the fans, or just mere speculations. Some facts has to be taken in consideration; Many scars from the grim Waters departure after The Wall was finished could have healed now (others wont !) The (mis)management of "The Final Cut" and the battle in courts until 1989 about the "brand-name" Pink Floyd. These are just facts we know. ! Now due to the huge sucess of "In The Flesh" tour and DVD sales, it can only be right that both Waters and Gilmore sit and talk again, as they did in the "The Dark Side Of The Moon" (making of) DVD. Music deserves the return of Roger Waters with the ones that made them all rich and famous. Just one question; How does Richar Wright react to this !

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Posted By: penguindf12
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 00:26
Originally posted by maani maani wrote:

I'll keep you informed of any further details I learn.  Oh, and how do I know all this?  All I can tell you is that I have an "in" on Gilmour's doings...

An "in"? Elaborate, maani!



Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 00:44

Sorry Maani, but according to Guy Pratt (PF's current bassist and Rick Wright's son-in-law)... Pink Floyd will never play together as a band again.  He told this to reporters last week at the opening of Storm Thorgenson's art exhibit in London which he attended with Nick Mason and Rick Wright.

Also Roger is scheduled to do a solo tour in 2006 of his own, which already has PP Arnold booked, from what I understand. This Roger stated recently on his interview with Q104.3 here in NYC.

So I more than anyone would love if this was true.. however, I just can't see it happening.

 



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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 14:25

The Eagles of course said the same thing ("Never again"), hence the "Hell freezes over" title for their tour. Time is indeed a great healer, and money an even greater incentive!

Thanks for the info Maani, we'll just have to wait and see. I wouldn't be surprised if it did happen though.



Posted By: benny bouncer
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 17:27
I hope they do get back together....I want to see ELP, Yes & Pink Floyd before these guys give up for good.....except the best of them all (ELP) is doubtful, dont think they will tour again but if they do.....WOO HOO


Posted By: maani
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 17:30

All:

Re threefates' comment, don't forget that people have a vested interest in "misdirection" when large things are at stake.  All the denying in the world does not make it so...And dont' forget the old saw: "Never say never..."  There is more than a ring of truth to it...

Ultimately, Easy Livin is correct re money: it is the most critical incentive for almost anything - including burying hatchets and expediting legal details.  True, Pink Floyd does not need Waters) to make money (a lot of money) touring.  But the added "cachet" can easily drive the ticket price up, and people will pay it - gladly.  Thus, if Gilmour feels that having Waters join them for various dates (despite Waters' solo tour) will turn a $100 million tour into a $150 million tour - and if Waters gets a piece of that - you can bet that a "reunion" of sorts will occur - even if Waters and Gilmour have to "hold their noses" in order to appear on the same stage.

Peace.



Posted By: richardh
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 18:19
There's a comment in one of todays papers by Rick Wright saying they may reunite for a special event like a charity concert.He also added though that Spinal Tap have made it more difficult for bands to reform!


Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 19:43
While I was too young to see them in the 70's and would have greatly desired to I have no interest in seeing them nowadays. I know I'll get slammed for this , but watching someone who I used to worship attempt to play when they are way past their prime is just too depressing


Posted By: Vegetableman
Date Posted: October 10 2004 at 21:30
Roger and the Floyd will NEVER get back together again. There is not a single chance that that will happen. While there is a chance that the other three may get back together, it is extremely slim, and is not worth hoping for.

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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 01:47

I'd rather see the 3.. than with Roger.  Personally as long as David is playing guitar.. I don't care who else is there...

And Greg.. i have a video of David playing and singing last week at Wembley.. there is no way that he is past his prime!!



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Posted By: Disonant1
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 01:59
There will never be a prime for David to pass...Personally, as long as both
David and Roger keep playing music for the masses, that's fine by me.
Yes, it would be awesome to see them perform live again, but we all know
that the love wouldn't be there. I'd rather see them perform with their
hearts fully into it then to be pretending for the holy dollar. Yeah, well, I
guess we'll see what happens,eh?

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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 11:50

Man, I would LOVE it they got back together.

There's always hope.



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Posted By: sigod
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 11:52

Is it too late to insert the word 'if' into that last post?

My typing skills are not what they used to be



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I must remind the right honourable gentleman that a monologue is not a decision.
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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 13:23

I got the following attachmentl today from the PF website "Fleeting Glimpse"

http://www.pinkfloydz.com/codswallop.htm - http://www.pinkfloydz.com/codswallop.htm



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Posted By: asuma
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 13:27
world tours are nice, because there are usually three canadian stops along the way. toronto, montreal, and vancouver (a 2 hour ferry ride). however, there have been bands that never make it out to the west cost. but they would probably go to seatle (a longer ferry ride, but i would do it to see floyd).

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Posted By: Bryan
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 15:45

It's not going to happen.  People in Pink Floyd communities are laughing at this report.  It's not like this is the first time there's been a report that PF is reforming.



Posted By: Disonant1
Date Posted: October 11 2004 at 16:51
well...bullocks! it was a nice rumor while it lasted

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Posted By: threefates
Date Posted: October 14 2004 at 21:17
Mason rules out Floyd reunion
An interview with Nick Mason:

Paul Taylor

The Manchester Online reports:

THE Pink Floyd fan grapevine is buzzing with suggestions that Roger
Waters may return to the fold, 20 years after his acrimonious departure,
for a reunion tour which could net $100m.

If so, no one has yet told Nick Mason, Floyd's longest-serving member.

"I don't know where this one has come from," the exasperated drummer
says, scotching the rumour.

"There is no chance of that happening. I don't think there is any reason for
Roger to rejoin the fold and I am not sure that David would be happy with
that anyway."

The David in question is, of course, guitarist David Gilmour, the third
person to don the creative mantle of Pink Floyd.

First, there was Syd Barrett, chief architect of Floyd's psychedelic
beginnings in the mid-sixties, who became increasingly unstable through
drug abuse and psychiatric problems.

One night in 1968, on the way to a gig, Mason's book recalls, Pink Floyd
simply didn't bother stopping to pick up Barrett, and that was that.

Stepping forward as principal songwriter, Waters saw Floyd through one of
the most lauded rock albums ever - The Dark Side Of The Moon - and on
through a gargantuan touring phase to The Wall, one of the high
watermarks of rock as a significant art form.

Before leaving for a solo career, Waters' behaviour was "beginning to
border on the megalomaniac", Mason says in his book.

For instance, at Waters' insistence, long-serving keyboard player Rick
Wright was told, just before The Wall tour, that he was no longer a
member of the band, but was asked to play the tour anyway as a waged
performer.

Since the mid-eighties, Gilmour has been at the helm of Floyd, the band
currently "resting" - in one of those frequent phases where no one knows
what comes next or if indeed there is a "next".

"It's really down to David," says Mason, 59. "If David wants to do it, we
will work again."

In the meantime, Mason's lavishly-illustrated Inside Out: A Personal
History Of Pink Floyd is the first biography of the band written by one of its
members.

Real life
"What, hopefully, comes over in the book is that it is just like real life. It is
a mixture of great fun and people being quite cruel to each other," he
says.

"There is a pattern which is that when the band are united in determination
to achieve specific goals, everyone works together pretty well. It is when
you start achieving the goals that it all gets more difficult."

THAT lost soul of Barrett has particular resonance. In 1975, Barrett, obese
and shaven-headed, wandered uninvited into Abbey Road studio where
Floyd were recording, indulged in desultory conversation and left.

He now lives in Cambridge and spends his days painting. Since that day,
almost 30 years ago, Mason has had no direct contact with his old
bandmate. "Most of us feel that that is the way it should be," Mason adds.

"I think there is still a watching brief, and we have certainly tried to make
sure there is a royalty stream directed to him, and we know how he is and
what is going on. He is very well looked after by his brother.

"I just don't think it would be the right thing for us to start popping in and
visiting him."

The saying goes that if you remember the sixties, you weren't there. Yet
Mason found the decade flooded back easily as he wrote.

"That is still one of the curious things, that everyone thought we were the
psychedelic kids, and, with the exception of Syd, we absolutely weren't,"
he says.

From fancy light shows, the Floyd experience blossomed into cutting edge
technology, grand theatricals and flying, inflatable pigs. When punk
happened, it was against just such excess that it was protesting. Did Floyd
get too big for their boots?

"I would have to confess to feeling 'Ooh, let's get bigger'," says an
unrepentant Mason. "There was some fantastic stuff came out of punk
and, looking back, that kind of stadium rock had become a bit grandiose
and over the top.

"But we still knew we had a fan base, still believed in the music we were
making."

The episodic career of Floyd gives Mason plenty of time to indulge his love
of racing classic cars. The lay-off before 1987's A Momentary Lapse Of
Reason album was so long that Mason did not even feel confident about
doing all the drum parts, calling in session musicians, instead.

He will not let his skills get so rusty again, he says, but asked when he
may take up his sticks in the service of Pink Floyd again, he replies: "God
knows".

For the moment, Floyd fans will have to content themselves with the
legions of Pink Floyd tribute bands who do the rounds. "They are terribly
good," Mason says of these soundalikes.

"They tend to be able to play rather better than we do, or certainly as well
as I do. They remember everything, whereas I constantly say, `Yes, it
goes something like that'."

Nick Mason signs copies of his book Inside Out: A Personal History Of Pink
Floyd ( Weidenfeld and Nicolson) at HMV, 90 Market Street, Manchester on
Friday, October 15 at 5pm.


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Posted By: benny bouncer
Date Posted: October 15 2004 at 17:11


Posted By: gdub411
Date Posted: October 15 2004 at 17:22
Well if we can't get Roger then Let's get Syd


Posted By: Disonant1
Date Posted: October 16 2004 at 01:08
I'm with Benny . How's about a revisit to Pompeii with Floyd? IF that
happened...I would definitely have died and gone to Floyd heaven. Listen,
if I ever win the lottery (like 300 Million), I'll fly us all to Pompeii and make
an offer to Gilmour, Rogers and Mason that they can't refuse. Promise

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Posted By: Havoc
Date Posted: October 16 2004 at 14:42
So it's up to David... I think we may have someday another PF album.

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