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Topic: Does Marillion have a large gay fanbase?
Posted By: Man Overboard
Subject: Does Marillion have a large gay fanbase?
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 16:59
http://youtube.com/watch?v=aGvMETxC_XU - http://youtube.com/watch?v=aGvMETxC_XU

All I can say is that the video footage before Steve starts singing made me giggly and blush Big smile

Not to mention the shirtless part at the end...


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Posted By: unforgivable74
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 17:10
Marillion are my favourite band. I am not gay but when I first saw pictures of Mr. 'H', I thought maybe I should question that. But after being a fan for a while, I began to think that his head was on a long a journey up his own arse so I decided to remain hetrosexual. He is a damn handsome bloke but, my God, does he know it!

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Posted By: stonebeard
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 17:14
Eh, not me. That video is rather strange, though. Wink 

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 17:24
Are you sure Stonie?  The way you and Cyggie talk about Fish, I often wonder! Wink

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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 17:29
^LOL
 
Its a good video though.


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 17:30
Oh boy, if that's all it takes to make you blush... LOL

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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 17:37
It's not exactly the Pet Shop Boys or Erasure. I've seen worse.

I actually think it's a pretty cool video.

E

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Posted By: The Miracle
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 17:42
Still better than the Kayleigh video

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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 20:23
oh my god.. what the hell is this....  ist this some inside neo-team joke?


videos?   and where is the prog?????????????  Cry


*turns off song.... 2:15 into it*   now have serious questions as to the neo team hahahhaha


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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 21:41
Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

oh my god.. what the hell is this....  ist this some inside neo-team joke?


videos?   and where is the prog?????????????  Cry


*turns off song.... 2:15 into it*   now have serious questions as to the neo team hahahhaha


Cry

To be fair though that is by far the most commercial song from the album (except maybe Cannibal Surf Babes), the rest of the album is much proggier.

I have to agree that the Beatiful video is one of the most homoerotic things I have ever seen. LOL





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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 22:02
Originally posted by Forgotten Son Forgotten Son wrote:

Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

oh my god.. what the hell is this....  ist this some inside neo-team joke?


videos?   and where is the prog?????????????  Cry


*turns off song.... 2:15 into it*   now have serious questions as to the neo team hahahhaha


Cry

To be fair though that is by far the most commercial song from the album (except maybe Cannibal Surf Babes), the rest of the album is much proggier.

I have to agree that the Beatiful video is one of the most homoerotic things I have ever seen. LOL






I'm down with the whole gay scene... some of my best friends past and present are.... it was the damn song that made me uncomfortable LOL


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Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: September 01 2006 at 23:43
I am with micky: not sure what you Neo-Proggers see in the whole thing. LOL He's a beautiful singer, but I hope to goodness that Marillion has more Prog than that, or I'll just die. Embarrassed

The shirtless part I didn't mind. Wink


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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 01:07
Originally posted by Penumbra Penumbra wrote:

I am with micky: not sure what you Neo-Proggers see in the whole thing. LOL He's a beautiful singer, but I hope to goodness that Marillion has more Prog than that, or I'll just die. Embarrassed

The shirtless part I didn't mind. Wink




ClapClap  ... one for quoting me and one for the agreement hahha.. whoa...not for the shirtless part of course ... not my type..LOL


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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 01:32
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

It's not exactly the Pet Shop Boys or Erasure. I've seen worse.


    

    
That's a good one E.

Hogarth does sing very well. Not very proggy though. It makes "Kayleigh" sound like "Supper's Ready."

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Posted By: Cygnus X-2
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 02:56
This whole thread is just silly.LOL

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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 03:31
Marillion started to loose the Prog relation when Fish left, but this soong is extreme, not a single Prog note.
 
And about the video...well, all has been said and it's obvious but it's his choice.
 
Since the moment when he starts playing with his hair the video is pretty eloquent.
 
Iván


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Posted By: unforgivable74
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 05:52
Originally posted by Ivan_Melgar_M Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:

Marillion started to loose the Prog relation when Fish left....


'This Strange Engine', 'The Space', 'Neverland', 'King'.....They may have started diversifying after Fish but they never lost their prog. They did loose a damn fine lyricist but musically, I think they progressed.


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Posted By: Wilcey
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 07:13
I was a fan of Marillion way back when.......... and I know that when H joined the mob that it wasn't just the girls fans who felt a heart flutter, a lot of the men I knew at the time (straight and gay) had a bit of a lust for him...........

Me............well, he's not my cup of tea...........


Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 09:38
Actually, "Beautiful" is one of my favorite tracks from the amazing Afraid Of Sunlight. Listen to the message because it's really quite inspiring and probably one from which we all could benefit (as we're on a thread about stereotypes and generalizations).

If you like the message, but still can't stomach "Beautiful", then go listen to "A Few Words For The Dead". Essentially says the same thing, but a bit more progressive.

Honestly, I can't believe a list made up of adults (I'm assuming we're [at least] in the majority) are even discussing this.

E

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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 09:41
<<I am with micky: not sure what you Neo-Proggers see in the whole thing. He's a beautiful singer, but I hope to goodness that Marillion has more Prog than that, or I'll just die.>>

So, you're basing this plea to us misguided neo-proggers on ONE song? Maybe you should try sampling some. Who knows, you may be a convert.

E
    

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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 09:43
<<I have to agree that the Beatiful video is one of the most homoerotic things I have ever seen.>>

Buhfuh??!! It is?

E

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Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 10:38
Kinda of weird video, not that terible though. Good song, but they made better.

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Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:01
I remember a few months back starting ti view this video, but I didn't enjoy the music, so I stopped it.  I'm so glad I didn't get to the shirt removal part!

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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:10
Originally posted by unforgivable74 unforgivable74 wrote:

Marillion are my favourite band. I am not gay but when I first saw pictures of Mr. 'H', I thought maybe I should question that. But after being a fan for a while, I began to think that his head was on a long a journey up his own arse so I decided to remain hetrosexual. He is a damn handsome bloke but, my God, does he know it!
 
ShockedWhew! A narrow escape!
 
Stern SmileBeware of looking at attractive people of your gender!Stern Smile
 
 
Geek In particular, avoid TV, movies, and leaving the house -- alternately,  just pluck your own eyes out....Pinch
 
Whoops! Now you're gay!
 
There -- now you're straight again!
 
 
 
Now you're just confused!
 
LOL!


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Posted By: Gravity Eyelids
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:17

^ LOL



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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 11:22
I just wasted 4:24 of my lifeCry

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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 12:28
Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I just wasted 4:24 of my lifeCry
 
ShockedAnd I thought I typed slowly!Wink


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Posted By: Penumbra
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 12:49
Shocked Become a convert and cross over from Symphonic? E-Dub, you have much to learn of my loyalties. LOL I love all music, but some just bores me sometimes! I'll listen to "Beautiful" again when I have an anxiety attack; then you can ask me how I feel. 

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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 13:00
Originally posted by Penumbra Penumbra wrote:

Become a convert and cross over from Symphonic? E-Dub, you have much to learn of my loyalties.  I love all music, but some just bores me sometimes! I'll listen to "Beautiful" again when I have an anxiety attack; then you can ask me how I feel. 

    
In E-Dub's defence, he is becoming a Genesis fan. So, I don't think you have to worry about his "symphonic appreciation."

Also, he is one of Steve Hogarth's primary champions. No matter what anyone else may think, he remains loyal. I applaud you for that E.

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Posted By: Drew
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 13:02
Originally posted by Peter Rideout Peter Rideout wrote:

Originally posted by Drew Drew wrote:

I just wasted 4:24 of my lifeCry
 
ShockedAnd I thought I typed slowly!Wink
LOL


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:06
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Actually, "Beautiful" is one of my favorite tracks from the amazing Afraid Of Sunlight. Listen to the message because it's really quite inspiring and probably one from which we all could benefit (as we're on a thread about stereotypes and generalizations).
 
The problem is not the video, for God's sake, Peter Gabriel used to run through a stage in a flower outfit, Freddie Queen made a video for "I want to break Free" (Roger Taylor even looked as a cute girl Wink), Jon Anderson has some weird movements and nobody says a word because the music is great, in this case Marillion seems to be following the path of their mentors Genesis.
 
Freddie was gay, that's a fact, everyone of us knows that fact and we don't have the slightest problem with his music or videos, as a fact I was  the first one to correct an ex-member who said Queen was crap because the guy was gay (Of course he used the word qCensoredr) and I doidn't hesitate to call him an idiot with stupid prejudices and an homophobic.
 
But to deny Beautiful is a suspicious video is being blind, he tried to be controversial, most people here is just mentioning that.

If you like the message, but still can't stomach "Beautiful", then go listen to "A Few Words For The Dead". Essentially says the same thing, but a bit more progressive.
 
Nah, didn't liked it either.

Honestly, I can't believe a list made up of adults (I'm assuming we're [at least] in the majority) are even discussing this.
 
Why? Adults are just kids that growed up, we are just having a bit of fan without being offensive.

Iván



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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:41
Ivan, you make good points. Some I can't quite understand, but some are valid. The last statement, for example, is a valid one; however, the difference is now (as adults) we know what the proper parameters are. I wasn't offended (although the title of this thread raised an eyebrow at first). Just wondering where it was all going.

Hogarth has been happily married to the same woman for quite some time. Maybe he tried to push the envelope...to get us all talking. Maybe he succeeded.

It's all good, Ivan.

E

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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:45
<< Become a convert and cross over from Symphonic? E-Dub, you have much to learn of my loyalties. I love all music, but some just bores me sometimes! I'll listen to "Beautiful" again when I have an anxiety attack; then you can ask me how I feel. >>

I may be a conservative straight white guy, but I think I'm pretty good about exploring other forms of prog. I've liked symphonic and art rock a lot longer than neo prog...it just happens to be the primary focus because my favorite band happens to be a neo prog band. Look through my tower and you'll see classic Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, etc. Then you'll see Dream Theater and Ayreon in another section. It's all good.

E

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Posted By: WaywardSon
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 14:47
After watching Led Zeppelin (especially Plant) "The Song Remains The Same" one could ask if Zep have a large gay fanbase! <img
 


Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:19
 
 
 
                                        (^ Large gay fan vase )


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:20
^ClapLOL

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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:23

                                      ( ^ Large Gay Face Fan )Shocked



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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
He chortled in his joy.


Posted By: VanderGraafKommandöh
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 15:58
Peter, over here, Vase rhymes with Mars, not face. Wink

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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:56
Originally posted by Geck0 Geck0 wrote:

Peter, over here, Vase rhymes with Mars, not face. Wink
 
 
I was going for the similar spelling. Geek
 
Here, for the record, it can rhyme with "maze" or "pause."
 
This one is likely full of Greek oil :
 
So tell me, what's a Grecian earn, anyway?Confused
(Every Roman knows!)Wink


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Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 16:59
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:


I may be a conservative straight white guy,
 
My case is the same but agravated because I was raised by a hardcore homophobic. machist, racist and anti-communist father, the first time a group of partners from the university came to study to my house (One was black, the other was gay - pretty obvious BTW-  and we also had acommunist with a Che Guevara T-shirt a metal heads and 3 beautiful girls  -he used to believe beautiful women should stay at home or participate in beauty contests-) my father almost died, he wondered if we were going to study or make an orgy LOL (Don't blame him, it's the way he was raised).
 
But neither my sister or me are hompohobic, we're both straight but managed to get rid of this medieval way of thinking (Except of the anti-communist part Wink, but blame Shinnig Path for that, any action causes a reaction).
 
but I think I'm pretty good about exploring other forms of prog.
 
Me too, my first love iis obviously Symphonic, but love Folk, Fusion, Art Rock and even some Neo like Fish Marillion, Pendragon, etc. 
 
I've liked symphonic and art rock a lot longer than neo prog...it just happens to be the primary focus because my favorite band happens to be a neo prog band. Look through my tower and you'll see classic Yes, King Crimson, Genesis, etc. Then you'll see Dream Theater and Ayreon in another section. It's all good.
 
Well Prog Metal has quite good bands but sadly Fream Threater represents all i don't like of the sub-genre and seems to exuist almost a perfect identity between Prog Metal and Dream Theater.

Iván



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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 19:28
Ivan, I'm a pretty conservative Christian guy; however, my view is I may not agree with it, but it's their right as long as they're not hurting anyone.

Oh, I hate to say this, but my 3 1/2 year old daughter loves "Beautiful". She either wants to hear that song, or "Cover My Eyes".

E

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Posted By: Kleynan
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 20:33
Now... that's gay! Confused

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Posted By: The Wizard
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 20:41
Wow, that was a pretty terrible song. Sounded like adult contemporary or something. Ouch

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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 21:26
Not even Marillion fans would call it progressive. It pretty much works within the context of the theme of Afraid Of Sunlight, however.

E

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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 21:27
<<Now... that's gay!>>

Check out your avatar. I like Gabriel, but have seen him look questionable on many o' occasions.

E

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Posted By: Arrrghus
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 21:32
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

Wow, that was a pretty terrible song. Sounded like adult contemporary or something.

    

Ewww... not listening. I like Marillion (Fish-era, I just need to give Hogarth time)

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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: September 02 2006 at 21:35
<<Also, he is one of Steve Hogarth's primary champions. No matter what anyone else may think, he remains loyal. I applaud you for that E. >>

Thanks, my friend. Marillion has become a passion for me, and I'll continue to defend it. Whether people think it's homoerotica or what, it's all subjective. People think what they want to think. As for the song, I've even heard die hard Marillion fans pan it. Definitely not their proggiest (not even close), but I do have to commend Hogarth on an exquisite vocal performance. I think that's why I enjoy it so much.

E

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Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 01:20
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Not even Marillion fans would call it progressive. It pretty much works within the context of the theme of Afraid Of Sunlight, however.

E


I like it even out of context. The first time I heard it was on the EMI videos collection DVD. For the record I love Cover My Eyes too Tongue


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Posted By: Peter
Date Posted: September 03 2006 at 17:43
Originally posted by E-Dub E-Dub wrote:

Ivan, I'm a pretty, conservative Christian guy
E
 
Shocked Indeed?
 
Ermm But are you as "pretty" as the hirsute, he-manly Herr Hogarth? Photos, please!Wink
 
 
 
 
 
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O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!'
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