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Topic: Marillion interview in today's London Tim
Posted By: Dick Heath
Subject: Marillion interview in today's London Tim
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 16:33
Much to my surprise that NME outpost, the pop music section of Saturday Arts Supplement of the London Times, has a double page interview with Marillion today. Having praised their new album Somewhere Else, the writer Stephen Dalton, can't resist w**king off by having a bash at prog: .....quote.... 'This is largely because Marillion have - how can we put this kindly? - have an image problem. Their music is still perceived as bloated, bombastic, mullet-haired prog-rock, even by people who haven't heard it. In fairness, they did release an album called Script For a Jester's Tear. But, come on, we all had bad hair days in the 1980's'.

Why does this style of (unoriginal) mainstream music "writing" still persist? Mullet-hair - dream on t**ser.


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Posted By: Uroboros
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 17:09
So he thought the new album was great... Well, frankly, to me it sounded like they were sleeping when they recorded it. Maybe it's because I was expecting to hear some bloated and bombastic prog rock... or maybe not. Wink

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Posted By: muffley_mirkin
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 17:33
I have to say that the new album is not very good. I do not understand where all the 'positive' reviews are coming from.

It is a very medicore 'pop' album. It has nothing to hold on to at all. The vocals are the worst that 'H' has produced and the lyrics are dire.

On the good side the bass and drums are very good and Rothery does produce some good riffs. But overall, not a good album and a definite step backwards from Marbles DeadDead



Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 17:34
It wasn't my favourite Marillion album either (I liked some of it though), but I am so glad they got in the charts with it and got mostly positive reviews. The ultimate 'two finger salute' to the youth/credibility obsessed music industry.
 
Really, I expect nothing more out of some of those writers. And I have a few Marillion DVDs/VHS from 80s concerts and I can't recall any member having a mullet!! NME, and the like are without question the poorest music writers around. It's not even that they sl*g off prog, there is just too little focus on the music and too much painful self adulation with the writers showing off how clever they are while justifying the bands they like as being 'the saviours of rock and roll'.Dead This has been everyone from Oasis to The Strokes to The Libertines to Kasabian to The Horrors...it changes every week!!
 
However, I think the prog bashing has toned down slightly in the more open minded publications. Heck, in a recent Mojo special on album covers a writer said 'Tales From Topographic Oceans' had 'flashes of brilliance'!! First time I've ever read much positive about that in the press, and I love the album...


Posted By: Trickfew
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 19:45
At  the moment  I  can´t hear the new Marillion album,  i like this group  very much, but  i prefer  the records of the Phish  era,  but  I think  that Steve  Hogarth is a  very good vocalist


Posted By: Tristan Mulders
Date Posted: April 21 2007 at 20:09
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Much to my surprise that NME outpost, the pop music section of Saturday Arts Supplement of the London Times, has a double page interview with Marillion today. Having praised their new album Somewhere Else, the writer Stephen Dalton, can't resist w**king off by having a bash at prog: .....quote.... 'This is largely because Marillion have - how can we put this kindly? - have an image problem. Their music is still perceived as bloated, bombastic, mullet-haired prog-rock, even by people who haven't heard it. In fairness, they did release an album called Script For a Jester's Tear. But, come on, we all had bad hair days in the 1980's'.

Why does this style of (unoriginal) mainstream music "writing" still persist? Mullet-hair - dream on t**ser.


Oh come on.. this was a mostly positive article.. with a bit of sarcasm throw in... Ouch

Have you read Q's review? Now, from what I can remember THAT was written by a t*sser!


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Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 07:01

Yeah, fair's fair, I read the rest of the article and it was positive. The worst review of this was in the Independent- it said the band had now become a Rush tribute band! This shows that now only had the reviewer not played the Marillion album, he'd never played Rush either!! LOLThat's the sort of hack journalism I tiraded at earlier in the thread...



Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 09:49
LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


What Stephen Dalton highlights are musical parallels in his article:

Quote:
"The band have released their 14th album, Somewhere Else, which is really  rather good. Containing tracks that shimmer like Coldplay, ache like Radiohead and thunder like Muse, it is better than 80% of this month's releases............."

Does that make any sense?


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Posted By: Dick Heath
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 09:51
Originally posted by salmacis salmacis wrote:

Yeah, fair's fair, I read the rest of the article and it was positive. The worst review of this was in the Independent- it said the band had now become a Rush tribute band! This shows that now only had the reviewer not played the Marillion album, he'd never played Rush either!! LOLThat's the sort of hack journalism I tiraded at earlier in the thread...



I wasn't the album review but at the usual prog-bashing - which from one of several
 aspects, at the expense of column inches, was unnecessary


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Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 10:50
In case you feel like explaining Mr. Dalton where he went of, send him some pictures of old and new Marillion, and have him compare those to what can be found http://www.mulletsgalore.com/ - here .




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Posted By: SignalToNoise
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 13:18
I've only heard 'The Other Half'. Doesn't sound too interesting; nice, but nothing in comparision to 'Marbles'.

But I think too, that the new Marillion are better. The Fish-Marillion sometimes seem kind of too neoproggy to me...though I like Misplaced Childhood. Now this is only my own opinion, and so I completely understand S. Dalton when he says this. ;)

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Posted By: progismylife
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 13:56
I also read that article and was a bit annoyed at it. The bashing of prog was unnecessary. Can't say anything about the album cause I've only heard Misplaced Childhood.


Posted By: salmacis
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 16:03
BTW, Dick, that bit you highlighted- 'shimmer like Coldplay, ache like Radiohead...' etc just seems to be piloted in, more or less, from the sections from other reviews of the album on the front page of Marillion's website! I don't know if this guy has played it either, then...LOL


Posted By: Forgotten Son
Date Posted: April 22 2007 at 23:00
Originally posted by SignalToNoise SignalToNoise wrote:

I've only heard 'The Other Half'. Doesn't sound too interesting;


The new album really is a grower. I felt the same way when I first heard it, but 6 or so listens on and I'm really liking it.

Originally posted by SignalToNoise SignalToNoise wrote:

nice, but nothing in comparision to 'Marbles'.


I think this is why some listeners may be disappointed. It really isn't like Marbles, save maybe the title track. The band did say that they were going to go in a completely different direction, though and they did.

As for the real topic at hand, I think this is a perfect example of why I don't often bother with the mainstream media anymore, too many lies and distortions. I find it extremely distressing that such media heavily influences people's opinions.

I'm glad that Marillion are getting some good reviews, though. Perhaps more people will be encouraged to explore their wonderful music.




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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: April 24 2007 at 13:08
One wonders what would've happened if they brought back Dave Meegan and they produced a disc comparable to the sound of Marbles. Everyone would be accusing them of copping out.

Even a sub par Marillion album is better than a lot of the schlock that's out there...and this is FAR from sub par. I liked it when I first heard it, but it really is grabbing a hold of me the more and more I listen to it. That title track is friggin' amazing, too.

E

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