Spinal Tap On Progarchives
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Forum Name: Suggest New Bands and Artists
Forum Description: Suggest, create polls, and classify new bands you would like included on Prog Archives
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Topic: Spinal Tap On Progarchives
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Subject: Spinal Tap On Progarchives
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 19:04
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I`ve had the opportunity to have written 3 band bios for this great web-site ( Larry Coryell, Guru Guru and Octobre ) and have proposed the addition of rock spoof band Spinal Tap where I would write a silly bio following their fictional career based on the three movies, actual albums,archival material plus outakes ( unused material ) from the first film This Is Spinal Tap. The admins are not too crazy about my proposal but I believe that it would be a valid addition because a lot of Tap`s parodying reflects the eccentricities and excesses of prog bands(Uriah Heep and Jethro Tull come to mind.)And who can forget that prog classic Stone Henge. So I`ve created this little poll to try and win the admins over to my cause. I would appreciate all responses and comments,for or against, so this matter can be resolved ASAP.Thanking all In Advance,
Your Friendly nieghborhood Vibrationbaby
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Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 19:15
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Sorry,but I am totally against it and think adding them here is ridiculous.
And you know that only polls about bands in the archives go in Prog Polls,you just put it here so more people would see it. -------------  |
Posted By: cynthiasmallet
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 19:27
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The song "And Cups And Cakes" that you hear only very briefly on the radio during the film is a clear spoof of the Canterbury scene, and songs like "Rock and Roll Creation" and "Stonehenge" have a very Rush-like quality to them. ------------- Would you like to watch TV, or get between the sheets, or contemplate the silent freeway, would you like something to eat? |
Posted By: The Doctor
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 19:27
Hey but David Kaffinetti (or however you spell his damn name) from Rare Bird played keyboards for awhile with Spinal Tap. That makes them prog-related doesn't it? 
Seriously, I agree 100% with Jody. As amusing as I find the This is Spinal Tap, I don't think songs like "Sex Farm" and "Big Bottoms" are quite up to prog standards. ------------- I can understand your anger at me, but what did the horse I rode in on ever do to you? |
Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 20:04
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P.A. seems to be trying to add every classic rock band ever to the Archives, so it seems reasonable to add a fictitious classic rock band or two as well.
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Posted By: E-Dub
Date Posted: October 19 2007 at 20:12
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Oh boy, as much as I love the movie, let's separate them and progressive music altogether. The scene with them completely lost downstairs at the venue in Cleveland is absolute classic. Especially when the janitor points them in the right direction, they strut off yelling "Rock and Roll!!!" and "Hello, Cleveland!!!", only to have them go in a complete circle and stumble upon the janitor once again is shear brilliance. E ------------- 
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Posted By: FruMp
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 01:45
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I guess an argument for them being prog related could easily be made as they do parody prog and have several prog songs. On the whole though they aren't a progressive band - they're a damn good one though.
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Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 02:10
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as I said in the last 'Add Spinal Tap' thread... I won't rest until they are here ...I'm also totally blowing smoke  |
Posted By: Bastille Dude
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 04:18
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Dudes, Has anyone forgotten "Jazz Odyssey " Or the rock opera "Saucy Jack"? ------------- DEATH TO FALSE PROG! |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 07:21
I voted for "absurd idea"...but I love absurd ideas. I'm not sure are they suitable for prog-related on PA though. Maybe. ------------- |
Posted By: mystic fred
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 07:51
if Spinal Tap are added i will rate their album "11" 
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Posted By: Zargus
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 07:54
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Yust add Spinal Tap and AC/DC and bee done with it. ------------- 
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 11:23
I put it in the poll section because that`s what it is A POLL. And I don`t understand what`s wrong with " more " people seeing it. Anyway, I respect your " serious "  opinion since I did ask for comments. ------------- |
TheProgtologist wrote:Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 11:57
Yes, the guys do actually play and write, but it is still parody. It is also a parody of rock bands, not progressive ones. Fantastic stuff, and I love it, but no. Would have been good for April first though.  ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Dim
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 12:04
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What? I really cant ever see this coming to life... ------------- 
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 12:17
As I said before, having Spinal Tap is a great occasion to take a good laugh at ourselves? Self derision is a great way to keep sane about things!  
I don't see how we would lose any kind of credibility if we place them in prog related or various genre etc...
Just imagine the hilarious spoof reviews we could have.
 We'd actually go "1" farther than Spinal Tap did
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Posted By: Shakespeare
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 12:19
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We should have the ability to review their albums 6 stars. EDIT: DAMN not the first to think of this lame joke.  |
Posted By: TheProgtologist
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 14:24
I know they are a real band,and the actors/comedians playing the roles are accomplished musicians.I obsessively watched the mockumentary for years and years,and have their cd's,so I am not new to Spinal Tap.
This section is called PROG POLLS,and it is for bands in the archives ONLY.It is not the place to put a poll suggesting artists for inclusion,or to debate if they belong here or not.
This either goes in the Suggest or Polls section of the forum.I placed it in the Suggest section since it seemed to me you were suggesting them for inclusion. ------------- |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 18:15
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Whether or not they belong on the site doesn't change the fact that they made a great movie, maybe the only movie that does a funny parody of mid 70s psuedo progressive rock and other excessive 70s rock styles.
The movie has a lot of clever references to various 70s bands. In one scene the bassist steps up to the mic and screams, and the whole shot is done like Waters doing Careful with that axe at Pompeii. When the band changes their lineup they refer to the new lineup as MK II ala Deep Purple. I have heard in an interview that Iron Maiden was the overall blue print for Spinal Tap. I have seen Maiden videos where they have a very similar color scheme to Tap in their presentation, but to me the keyboard player is based on Ian Stewart of the Stones. |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 18:29
| Why not? |
Posted By: Barla
Date Posted: October 20 2007 at 21:05
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Hmmmmm... is this a joke?
I hope so. ------------- http://www.last.fm/user/Barla/?chartstyle=LastfmMyspace">  
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Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 06:54
To be clear, I also voted this, because to me this option is a clear: yes, include them.
Which is exactly the whole point, let's be fun and unpredictable,n let's be absurd. ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Angelo
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 08:21
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^^ With Clarke and Sean Trane, both on the voting and the motivation. Also, this gives a second chance of review 'the black album' to all those people still frustrated about Metallica not being included in this site.
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 10:15
I think that's the point Hugues. It would be funny for a short while, perhaps as an April Fool ruse, but on an ongoing basis my personal opinion is it would be absurd.
They are simply not a real band, they are actors. They have a fictitious catalogue, and a real one which is made up of the soundtrack to the film. We would end up with review after review which tried to be funny but failed miserably.
The film is brilliantly funny, but I really could not support their addition. I'd perhaps be persuadable to a various artists addition for the film.
(This is a personal view, it does not mean they have been rejected by the admin team)
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Posted By: Raff
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 10:24
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I agree with Bob here. Though I love to have a laugh as much as everybody else, I don't think such an addition would really be beneficial for the site. Other additions may have been controversial, even considerably so, but they were all REAL bands or artists - not actors, as Bob aptly pointed out. I am afraid we would lose credibility much more than in the case of other additions. Just my eurocents, of course... |
Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 10:33
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I think Bob has hit on a superb compromise in including the soundtrack album(s) under various artists: concept albums - this would mean that all the ficticious albums could be rightly ignored. ------------- What? |
Posted By: clarke2001
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 10:41
ficticious albums? could you please explain,or give a few examples? I don't understand, because of my English or my inability to catch your idea, but it seem like an idea not to be easily overlooked. Sorry. ------------- |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 10:51
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Ok, lets add The Wonders plus Jossy and the Pussycats in Proto Prog and Strange Fruit in Eclectic, at the end none of them exists.
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Posted By: Dean
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 11:24
Only two albums of real music exist: This is Spinal Tap and Break Like The Wind - these were recorded by the actors playing the band members. In the film, the fictional Spinal Tap have a catalogue of 11 made-up albums, such as the infamous black covered Smell The Glove, none of which exist in the real world. ------------- What? |
Posted By: RaphaelT
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 18:22
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Definitely - Bill Bruford said that there was a lot of "Spinal Tap" in Yes' history - they could make a genre of their own - after all, they are special and unique band ------------- yet you still have time! |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 23:27
Please, don't people get that they don't exist?
They are like Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny or the Tooth Fairy...Please we can't add them.
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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 23:29
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Spinal Tap has released two albums and two singles. That's a lot more than a lot of other artists on P.A.
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Posted By: micky
Date Posted: October 21 2007 at 23:53
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wow..... I've seen it all now..... not even bothering to vote...... if the admins voted this in....I'd eat my hat... hell....I'd all of your hats.... ------------- The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 01:06
Look up the definition of Parody. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 01:22
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if anyone ever gets a chance to see them live, you must go.. it is both hysterical and musically impressive.. and the opening act is them as the Folksmen, brilliant! |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 11:46
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Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 11:53
I just checked some entries in the various genres / artists and I don`t see any reason why they can`t have their own entry there. As RapaelT mentions above Bruford recalled that Yes had many Tap moments. I`ve read interviews with other prog bands who have made similar comments. Why are some of you so stuck up? As I mentioned before The Rough Guide To Rock has an entry for them so do other rock guides. What are you guys so worried about????????????????????????????? . ------------- |
Posted By: jikai55
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 21:44
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At the end of the day -- parody band or not -- they are quite simply not prog. ------------- 
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Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: October 22 2007 at 21:50
And that really is the final argument. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 05:15
I could live with this idea... the film only!!! and in various artist category  ------------- let's just stay above the moral melee prefer the sink to the gutter keep our sand-castle virtues content to be a doer as well as a thinker, prefer lifting our pen rather than un-sheath our sword |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 14:15
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Well, these are the Tap albums I actually have: -Break Like The Wind ( LP ) ( I believe it was re-mastered in CD form in `00 ) -Spinal Tap : The Original Sountrack Recording From The Motion Picture -Bitch School ( EP ) -Christmas With The Devil ( single ) - Majesty Of Rock ( EP ) So they are a freakin`real band or I`ll be a monkey`s uncle.They`ve appeared on Letterman as well as numerous other shows. My point is that they poke fun at all rock `n roll in general from glam-rock to prog-rock and they using their "real " songs focusing more on the seventies. I don`t know, I took a look at some of the entries in the various genres section and I end up scratching my head. I mean Peter & The Wolf?????? Tarzan????? In fact, listening to some of Tap`s music ( which they play themselves ), I find some of it is actually great stuff, and is better than some weaker stuff by Tull, Yes & ELP. I mean they`ve been on Letterman, The Simpsons and other shows in the US &UK. Hell, they even do a duet with Cher ( Just Begin Again ) on Break Like The Wind. So I don`t know. ------------- |
Posted By: debrewguy
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 18:16
I think it got to a point where just about every semi successful classic rock band was claiming to have lived through a Spinal Tap moment or two. I even read that when the movie first came out, that the Scorpions were rather offended by it because they thought that most jokes were based on them (????). Most other acts just laughed it off as being a day in the life. P.S. No to the question. I wonder if VB is just getting back for the assaults suffered in the Stuck in the Seventies thread. What's next -the Rutles in Proto-Prog ? Nigel Kennedy in Symphonic prog ? Dogs & Cats living in peace ? where will it all end ? WIth Metallica in PA ? With PA declaring AC/DC the ultimate non-prog act ? With my noticing my new tagline & wondering if I see the irony in it ?  ------------- "Here I am talking to some of the smartest people in the world and I didn't even notice,” Lieutenant Columbo, episode The Bye-Bye Sky-High I.Q. Murder Case. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 23 2007 at 19:34
| I was hoping more people would add band references they got from the film, that would have been more interesting than endless yes or no evaluations. |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 04:02
There is another discussion about them with those EM.
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Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 09:03
| Thanks I'll check it out. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 11:35
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Here`s one reference to artists. I think that the Nigel`s guitar collection scene was almost certainly influenced by Steve Howe and John Entwistle who were fanatical guitar collectors. I could think of tons more. Marty De Bergi : Do you play all these? Nigel : I play them and I cherish them. ------------- |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 11:46
| That's pretty good, got any more references? |
Posted By: bhikkhu
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 12:36
Yeah, and Kevin Smith and Jason Mewes have done cameos as Jay and Silent Bob. That doesn't mean they are real people. They are characters those guys play. Spinal Tap is parody. Even if it was an actual band, it's not prog. ------------- a.k.a. H.T. http://riekels.wordpress.com" rel="nofollow - http://riekels.wordpress.com |
Posted By: mrcozdude
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 12:41
three movies?  I only know the first or does the recent documentry count but that still leaves two!Someone explain------------- http://www.last.fm/user/cozfunkel/" rel="nofollow"> 
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Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 14:03
| There's a DVD called "The return of Spinal tap" which is mainly a live performance but has some funnies in between the songs. |
Posted By: Easy Money
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 14:29
| I think I saw that on TV the other day, it almost seems like an extension of the movie if I remember correctly. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 15:13
. There`s also a few short promo films : Catching Up With Marty DiBergi, Cheese Rolling and Spinal Tap: The Final Tour. Also they also made about 5 or 6 actual videos. The ones I have seen are : Hell Hole, Majesty of Rock, Big Bottom, Listen To The Flower People, and Gimme Some Money ( as THe Thamesmen ). Plus their more recent appearance at Live Earth. Plus numerous TV appearances.Once again, I`ll repeat myself, they are a satire of rock music in all forms from REM to Van Halen ( Eddie van Halen once said that everything in the bloody film bloody well happened to him! ) to Yes, even Tom bloody Waits thought it was close to reality. I just think their impact on the whole rock world has been too huge to be ignored and don`t think it would tarnish the reputation of this site to include them in some form. I think it could lighten things up a bit. " Seriously "  .------------- |
Posted By: Easy Livin
Date Posted: October 24 2007 at 15:30
| The commentary on the DVD This is ST is brilliant. As you say Vibe, the second disc of outtake material is as funny as the film itself. I love the bit in the zoo where they are pondering why, since baboons like bread so much, they never mastered the art of bakery. |
Posted By: Vibrationbaby
Date Posted: October 26 2007 at 10:38
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An the gorillas can talk but they can`t swear.
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