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hukt on fonikzz wrote: im a drummer and i have to say that yea u can easily bash us as much as you want, but without us the band wud be empty...just look at how portnoy runs that band!...personally my goal as a drummer is to not be so mediocre as to fit into the typical sterotype as the modern prog drummer. most people take it for granted, but its up to the drummer to innovate and make the band that much better. if you look at it that way, a drummer can choose to suck...as unfortunately most seem to now in day...you occasionaly get the rare pioneer such as pennie or theodore, not just some clone of peart.

i agree, i play a bit of drums, i am not in a band sadly  but you look at bands there are very few bands without drummers, they are more important than any other band member IMO. you take thr drummer away you have lost the back bone of the band. but most drummers in the modern rock era (chart rock) do have drummers who suck because all the songs they play have really easy beats that my gran could play blindfolded. where as DT and Mike Portnoy, now that is a different story all together just the way he plays you can see he is in control of the way he and the band as a whole play.

  While I agree we should all be playing and not posting in here... bah...

   As proven by some of the new King Crimson stuff, you can have brutal simple guitar work and prog it up with drums alone, but it doesn't always go both ways. If you listen to some of the really popular pop-rock bands out there you can hear some really prog influence stuff in the melodic and harmonic structure, and in the rhythmic structures in the guitar and voice parts, but when the drummer stays on the same boring back beat sh*t for the whole album its just so much harder to listen to an albums worth of it.