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Topic: Prog metal bands who have done prog albums
Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Subject: Prog metal bands who have done prog albums
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 15:57
There have been a few prog bands who have done prog metal albums such as White Willow, Mastermind and maybe Arena but what about prog metal bands who have done prog or symph prog albums. The only one I can think of is Opeth with their 2003 album damnation. What are some others? 



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Posted By: 2112R
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:32

Prog metal bands... So like Dream Theater with Metropolis Pt. 2 - Scenes from a memory? Or Epica in Design Your Universe? Or possibly Germany's own Vanden Plas with Christo, or The God Thing? And finally maybe Queensryche's Operation Mindcrime?  --- All are amazing albums (in my opinon) and recommend buying if your into the metal-ish and symph prog world, especially Epica. Hopefully that answered some of your question?



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Posted By: squire4001
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:34
I´m not very sure about that concept, mainly the prog metal bands are more agressive playing complex music and rarely they could change their sound for a future album, although Pain Of Salvation has changed their sound for 70`s hard rock in their new album as well ... I dont remember any prog metal band playing an album without metal sound being only prog rock.. 

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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:42
Porcupine Tree

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Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:47
Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Porcupine Tree

Porcupine Tree is not Prog Metal.



Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:52
Dream Theater - Falling Into Infinity: although many despite it, I find it to be a splendid modern Prog Rock album with some alt. rock influences.


Posted By: DASistGrantTeeL
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 20:57
well Devin townsends "Ki" and the back side of tiamat's Wildhoney  is all classic progressive rock 

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Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 21:09
Originally posted by DT-PT DT-PT wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Porcupine Tree

Porcupine Tree is not Prog Metal.


I don´t know well their career, because I don´t like PT...but here in the wiki they are signed also as a Prog Metal band. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree

And in my personal opinion they have a mixture between prog rock and prog metal (though I always meet their music too much cold for my senses)


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Posted By: 2112R
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 21:14

lol Wiki... 100% untrusted 100% of the time



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Posted By: DASistGrantTeeL
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 21:16
Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Originally posted by DT-PT DT-PT wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Porcupine Tree

Porcupine Tree is not Prog Metal.


I don´t know well their career, because I don´t like PT...but here in the wiki they are signed also as a Prog Metal band. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree

And in my personal opinion they have a mixture between prog rock and prog metal (though I always meet their music too much cold for my senses)

they were a progressive rock band gone heavy in reality their earlier records (or rather Steven Wilson's solo albums) were very psychedelic/space similar to pink floyd but now they are much harder rockin (but not really any heavier than rush)  



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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 23:52
Isn't one of Ayreon's albums more prog than prog metal? One of the Universal Migrator discs I think but I'm not sure which one.  Maybe some others by them also. 




Posted By: SergiUriah
Date Posted: June 17 2010 at 23:57
Originally posted by DASistGrantTeeL DASistGrantTeeL wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Originally posted by DT-PT DT-PT wrote:

Originally posted by SergiUriah SergiUriah wrote:

Porcupine Tree

Porcupine Tree is not Prog Metal.


I don´t know well their career, because I don´t like PT...but here in the wiki they are signed also as a Prog Metal band. 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Porcupine_Tree

And in my personal opinion they have a mixture between prog rock and prog metal (though I always meet their music too much cold for my senses)

they were a progressive rock band gone heavy in reality their earlier records (or rather Steven Wilson's solo albums) were very psychedelic/space similar to pink floyd but now they are much harder rockin (but not really any heavier than rush)  


Sure, you got the reason. That´s what I tried to say, they have a heavyprog point in some albums (I think just to win more fans), but not like bands as Rush or Opeth, or even Atomic Rooster who had a more constant "agressive" line in their albums.

PT sails among several seas, I suposse.


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Posted By: harmonium.ro
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 04:22
I think the OP is asking for non-metal progressive albums by prog-metal bands. I would recommend this:

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Except for a couple of growls, it's completely soft music, jazzy and dreamy. A bit similar to Opeth's Damnation and Maudlin Of The Well's Part The Second (which I assume the OP knows).


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 06:28
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Isn't one of Ayreon's albums more prog than prog metal? One of the Universal Migrator discs I think but I'm not sure which one.  Maybe some others by them also. 


Your thinking of the first disc, The Dream Sequencer. I'd also add maudlin of the Well's Part the Second as an excellent Prog Rock album from a Prog Metal band.
 
And White Willow's Storm Season IS NOT metal. There is heavy distortion on the rhythm guitar but thats it.


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Posted By: progkidjoel
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 06:44
Pain Of Salvation's Be strikes me as a deeply progressive rock album with only a few metal elements.

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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 12:27
WW's storm season sounded pretty metallish to me. I guess I don't listen to enough metal or prog metal. 

I guess maybe you also wouldn't consider Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Rush,Uriah Heep, Blue Oyster Cult. AC/DC, Def Leppard or Van Halen metal huh? Hey I knew one guy who didn't consider Black Sabbath heavy metal.


Posted By: The Truth
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 12:30
Anathema's A Fine Day to Exit sure ain't a metal album but then again... I don't know what it is... Confused

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Posted By: J-Man
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 13:54
Originally posted by progkidjoel progkidjoel wrote:

Pain Of Salvation's Be strikes me as a deeply progressive rock album with only a few metal elements.


I was about to say that. They're newest album Road Salt One isn't metal at all, but I wouldn't even come close to comparing it to symphonic prog either.


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 18:03
Originally posted by The Truth The Truth wrote:

Anathema's A Fine Day to Exit sure ain't a metal album but then again... I don't know what it is... Confused
Earache?Wink


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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 18 2010 at 18:09
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

WW's storm season sounded pretty metallish to me. I guess I don't listen to enough metal or prog metal. 

I guess maybe you also wouldn't consider Deep Purple, Led Zeppelin, Rush,Uriah Heep, Blue Oyster Cult. AC/DC, Def Leppard or Van Halen metal huh? Hey I knew one guy who didn't consider Black Sabbath heavy metal.
Thats an unfair comparison, metal in the 70's and early 80's is very different to metal today, the bands you mentioned if they started today would be hard rock and not metal, but they were definitely metal in the 70's. Yeah, Storm Season has that heavy second guitar running through half of the album or more, but the rest of the band play in a distinctly non metal way, so what I hear is an excellent symphonic prog album with a heavy slant.
 
And another suggestion to list, Borknagar released an excellent acoustic album in Origin, then there's Epicas Score, which is more of a classical album than anything else.


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Posted By: Telinstryata
Date Posted: June 22 2010 at 13:35
Green Carnation did The Acoustic Verses. I have not heard it myself, but with a name like that, maybe it's a softer album.


Posted By: Geizao
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 02:10

- Anglagard
- Spiral Architect
- Canvas Solaris
- Blotted Science


Posted By: rdtprog
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 05:58
Originally posted by Geizao Geizao wrote:


- Anglagard

  Prog metal????

Disapprove




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Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: June 28 2010 at 07:19
Originally posted by Geizao Geizao wrote:


- Anglagard
- Spiral Architect
- Canvas Solaris
- Blotted Science
Anglagard arent metal and the other 3 havnt done non metal albums.


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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: October 03 2014 at 16:48
I don't typically resurrect old threads but thought I would make an exception for this one given the recent more prog oriented albums by Opeth. There must be other metal or metallish bands who have gone in a more prog(and less metal)direction since the last post on here. ;)


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: October 03 2014 at 17:43
why didn't anyone say Opeth's two latest albums. i heard that those two were considered prog albums made by them.

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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: October 03 2014 at 17:54
^Because both of them were released before my last post on here.


Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 03 2014 at 18:16
The problem I have with this thread is the rather odious suggestion that Prog Metal bands aren't playing prog.

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Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: October 03 2014 at 18:28
Originally posted by sleeper sleeper wrote:

The problem I have with this thread is the rather odious suggestion that Prog Metal bands aren't playing prog.



They are. It's just that I find it interesting when they deviate from what they normally do and focus on the prog without the metal. Dream Theater have done this a little bit but I think Opeth is the best example of a band doing this. My knowledge is limited so I'm curious about other bands who have done this. I think Anathema has abandoned their metal and also Pain of Salvation. I'm not expecting all prog metal bands to do all non metal albums just maybe a few.


Posted By: verslibre
Date Posted: October 03 2014 at 19:22
A few of Threshold's songs sound nearly like a symph band masquerading as heavy prog, as with "Eat The Unicorn."

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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 03 2014 at 21:14
I would say the second disc on 6 Degrees of Inner Turbulence from Dream Theater would be a perfect example of this, since that one hasn't got almost any metal at all.


Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: October 04 2014 at 11:14
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Posted By: aapatsos
Date Posted: October 04 2014 at 13:41
^ not metal? Maybe a tad softer


Posted By: Michael678
Date Posted: October 04 2014 at 13:42
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

^Because both of them were released before my last post on here.


...what.


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Posted By: timothy leary
Date Posted: October 04 2014 at 15:47
Originally posted by aapatsos aapatsos wrote:

^ not metal? Maybe a tad softer
the site lists it as metal


Posted By: Prog_Traveller
Date Posted: October 04 2014 at 22:20
Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:


Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

^Because both of them were released before my last post on here.
...what.


I didn't think I would have to explain this but here it goes: I started this thread about four years ago. After a few weeks it died off. The other day I brought it back. So the last post on here before I brought it back recently was still from 2010. This was one year before Opeth's heritage. Understand now?


Posted By: PhideauxFan
Date Posted: October 05 2014 at 07:47
Anubis Gate (Denmark).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLZZ8tUfVtM


Posted By: Tapfret
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 03:55
Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

Originally posted by Michael678 Michael678 wrote:


Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

^Because both of them were released before my last post on here.
...what.


I didn't think I would have to explain this but here it goes: I started this thread about four years ago. After a few weeks it died off. The other day I brought it back. So the last post on here before I brought it back recently was still from 2010. This was one year before Opeth's heritage. Understand now?

This is why reincarnation is always preferable to resurrection. 


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Posted By: Toaster Mantis
Date Posted: November 21 2014 at 04:51
Most progressive metal groups seem to get more progressive and less metallic as they get older: Baroness, Fates Warning, Kylesa, Mastodon, Opeth, Queensr˙che, Voivod and so on. I'm guessing it has something to do with how progressive rock tends to aspire to being serious "art music" much more than metal and generally coming across as more mature in its cultural sensibility or emotional expression. Don't most people's taste in film/literature/music/etc move up the high culture/low culture hierarchy's ladder as they get older?

I'm guessing the same thing explains the chaotic technical side of metalcore, as in bands like Botch and Dillinger Escape Plan since "regular" metalcore strictly aims at being stupid fun music which resonates a lot less emotionally with most people once they pass their mid-20s.


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