Heart of the Sunrise vs. Starless
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Topic: Heart of the Sunrise vs. Starless
Posted By: The Wrinkler
Subject: Heart of the Sunrise vs. Starless
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 05:39
Both classic progressive rock songs from classic progressive rock bands...that both beautifully close their classic albums. Both clocking in at around the same time almost (10+ min.) and with Bruford on drums  I feel these two songs could match up pretty evenly. Both with a slow, soothing vocal part... and head spinning instrumentals. Let's have a clean fight! |
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Posted By: Svetonio
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 05:43
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STARLESS |
Posted By: Gandalff
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 05:45
This. ------------- A Elbereth Gilthoniel silivren penna míriel o menel aglar elenath! Na-chaered palan-díriel o galadhremmin ennorath, Fanuilos, le linnathon nef aear, sí nef aearon! |
Posted By: The Wrinkler
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 05:47
^ I'm not sure if I'm suppose to be waiting for the sun to rise? 
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Posted By: The Sleepwalker
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 07:20
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Heart Of The Sunrise, easily. ------------- 
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Posted By: omardiyejon
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 07:52
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starless without a hesitation ------------- http://www.normalisr.com/?username=omardiyejon" rel="nofollow - http://www.normalisr.com/?username=omardiyejon |
Posted By: The Neck Romancer
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 08:10
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Heart of the Sunrise dazzling day Gold through my eyes But my eyes turned within Only see Starless and Bible Black ------------- 
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Posted By: Varon
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 08:40
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In general I prefer YES but THIS KC's Masterpiece is much better for me than any Yessong. ------------- Would you catch the final words of mine? Would you catch my words??? |
Posted By: ExittheLemming
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 08:42
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Starless wins it for me by several country miles. It manages to negotiate wistful, poignant, plaintive, symphonic, jazzy, bombastic, visceral, creepy, joyous, maudlin and all points in-between seamlessly and effortlessly.
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Posted By: Manuel
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 10:02
| I wish there was an option "I like both equally". |
Posted By: someone_else
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 10:39
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Voted for Heart of the Sunrise, but this is a hard one. ------------- 
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Posted By: friso
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 10:46
| Starless. |
Posted By: DisgruntledPorcupine
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 10:49
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Svetonio wrote:Posted By: Anderson III
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 11:09
This. ------------- "Music expresses that which cannot be put into words and cannot remain silent" - Victor Hugo |
Posted By: chemebien
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 11:35
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great poll, the Yes song for me
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Posted By: Jazzywoman
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 12:21
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Heart of the Sunrise is just epicness in perfection....just sayin. haha -------------  
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Posted By: The Quiet One
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 12:22
| Starless is tremendous, but I've been listening to Heart of the Sunrise since I was little kid, I'm more fond of it. |
Posted By: dedokras
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 12:58
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Heartless... Or Heart of the Starless... I'll go with Heart of the Sunrise!
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Posted By: King Winter
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 13:09
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Starless Mabye the best piece of music my ears ever heard... |
Posted By: Morningrise
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 13:23
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Starless for me, but not by much. They are both superb pieces of music. |
Posted By: lazland
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 14:00
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Oh, no fair! Two exceptional tracks. I'm tempted to state no preference, but I will (just) plump for Starless, the greatest single piece of mellotron ever committed to vinyl. ------------- Enhance your life. Get down to www.lazland.org |
Posted By: mahavishnujoel
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 15:23
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my vote goes to "starless and, bible blaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaack". a very inspired john wetton ------------- Me, I'm just a lawnmower - you can tell me by the way I walk. |
Posted By: michellemjk
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 15:23
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Heart of the Sunrise by the amount that I listened to... |
Posted By: AA
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 16:53
| ouch! two of bruford's greatest performances. I might go for starless since alan white didn't get around to ruin it. but, naah, no vote. two of my favourite pieces of music. |
Posted By: Anthony H.
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 16:58
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Heart of the Sunrise is one of the most perfect pieces of music ever created. Even something as amazing as Starless can't top it. -------------  |
Posted By: WalterDigsTunes
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 17:20
| Another vote for Starless. Just the other night I queued up all my live version of this phenomenal track... absolutely glorious. |
Posted By: Lark the Starless
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 19:39
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As much as I love Yes, it has to be Starless ------------- 
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Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 22:02
| I really prefer Yes over King Crimson, but Heart of the Sunrise is not among my favourite Yes songs while I find Starless ecellent. However, I do prefer Starless live (for me, the main theme sounds as if it should be played by violin and not guitar). |
Posted By: Ivan_Melgar_M
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 22:23
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I'm not a fan of King Crimson, but Starless is a masterpiece and with an excellent vocalist. So Starless it is. Iván ------------- 
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Posted By: Slartibartfast
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 22:28
Yeaeehhehhgh. These should be running neck and neck, maybe some people will pump it up for Heart. I did vote for Starless though. ------------- Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened... 
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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 24 2010 at 22:34
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I used to love "Heart of the Sunrise" even though it had twiddly bits that I disliked. I didn't know "Starless" until many years later Definitely "Starless". Easy choice for me. ------------- Just a fanboy passin' through. |
Posted By: uduwudu
Date Posted: October 25 2010 at 00:26
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Starless is often regarded as the peak of the 69-74 KC. By me for a start! Heart of the Sunrise is a classic piece off a classic Yes album. Could not do without either though - I will say that I prefer Yes concert versions (not over the studio track) but compared to KC live versions (all of which preceded the studio track. Both have atmospheric vocal sections... but the imagination in Starless' instrumental sections... monumental. Really just trying to find a reason (excuse, pretext, no substance required) to vote gaianst a track to which I have always voted for... can't do it really. Starless. |
Posted By: Bitterblogger
Date Posted: October 25 2010 at 17:53
But in the polls I've seen with Starless as one of two, I haven't seen it lose.
Time to put it up against Supper's Ready or Close To The Edge.
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Posted By: MFP
Date Posted: October 25 2010 at 18:03
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Posted By: Majikthise
Date Posted: October 25 2010 at 19:17
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I absolutely adore both songs, but Heart of the Sunrise wins by the narrowest of margins. As much as I love Starless, its last section lets it down. The build up preceding it is sensational, but it's just not the climax the song needs. Heart of the Sunrise is flawless straight through. SHARP. DISTANCE. |
Posted By: Dellinger
Date Posted: October 25 2010 at 23:32
| ^ Try the live version from "The Collectible King Crimson Vol 1, disc 1", for me, that's the best version of the song, and the climax (unlike other live versions) is really strong. |
Posted By: The-time-is-now
Date Posted: October 26 2010 at 07:57
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Heart Of The Sunrise
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Posted By: ferush
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 15:07
| Heart Of The Sunrise is more melodic work but Starless And Bible Black is more imaginative. |
Posted By: Blacksword
Date Posted: October 27 2010 at 15:11
Both are prog classics for sure, but Starless lifts me up by the balls and swings me around the room. But in a good way...  ------------- Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy! |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 02:45
| Starless, one of my favorite KC songs. :) |
Posted By: Junges
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 02:48
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Starless ------------- 
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Posted By: Matti
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 03:10
| Both are absolutely marvelous! I chose Heart, some other day it might be Starless. |
Posted By: miamiscot
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 08:12
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Two of my all time favorites square off and the wrong song is winning... HotS is the best song I've ever heard.
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Posted By: Argo2112
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 08:14
| Heart |
Posted By: AFlowerKingCrimson
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 08:17
| Sorry but to me "starless"(the song) is over rated. If it wasn't for the title track(which I still admit is the best on the album)the album would not be praised as much as it is. |
Posted By: Cristi
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 08:57
there's no such thing as "wrong' song or wrong band winning in a poll. Everyone votes for their favorite, that's all.
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Posted By: REXFORD
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 09:01
| Heart of the sunrise is one of my favorite songs, starless is great but its not even my favorite KC song |
Posted By: Jeffro
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 09:08
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Heart of the Sunrise is one of my favorite Yes tunes and one of those prog songs that when I heard it just blew me away. (Much like Tarkus in that regard) Starless is pretty cool but, for me, can't compete with Heart.
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Posted By: Saperlipopette!
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 09:27
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Heart of the Sunrise is awesome but Starless is much like a classic lament or a threnody that touches hearts and minds far beyond just the progfans. Its also one of my favourite pieces of music. ------------- 
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Posted By: iancat87
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 09:51
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Both are great. This is obvious. HOWEVER... I think "Starless" is superior. There can be only one... ------------- http://iancat.bandcamp.com" rel="nofollow - “The mystery of life isn't a problem to solve, but a reality to experience.” |
Posted By: Frenetic Zetetic
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 09:57
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Heart of The Sunrise. ------------- "I am so prog, I listen to concept albums on shuffle." -KMac2021 |
Posted By: Squonk19
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 10:03
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I adore Heart of the Sunrise, but Starless is the best thing King Crimson ever did for me, so Mr Fripp gets my vote! ------------- “Living in their pools, they soon forget about the sea.” |
Posted By: Polymorphia
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 11:00
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"Starless," easily. In the past couple years, I've started to find "Heart of the Sunrise," as well as "South Side of the Sky" pretty tedious. They kill Fragile for me, a bit. ------------- https://dreamwindow.bandcamp.com/releases" rel="nofollow - My Music 
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Posted By: Mortte
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 11:21
| Starless. Heart is not my favourite Yes songs, of course it´s great anyway. |
Posted By: Man With Hat
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 17:35
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Starless ------------- Dig me...But don't...Bury me I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect. |
Posted By: Barbu
Date Posted: May 24 2018 at 19:09
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Sunrise ------------- |
Posted By: Dopeydoc
Date Posted: May 26 2018 at 15:33
Both are master pieces. My vote to sunrise to better balance the overall votes  |
Posted By: RomerilloLaMissFripp
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 05:25
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If Heart was being pitted against any other song I'd pick it, but Starless is my favorite in all of existence. (This is about the only occasion that I'd pick anything over Chris Squire's bass, but as you could get from my username, I got a favorite). |
Posted By: I prophesy disaster
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 07:58
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I like Starless. But based on the adulation I see from people on this forum, I think it is overrated. There are a LOT of tracks I prefer over Starless. I like Heart of the Sunrise. But it isn't in my top 3 on Fragile. But I do prefer Heart of the Sunrise over Starless. ------------- No, I know how to behave in the restaurant now, I don't tear at the meat with my hands. If I've become a man of the world somehow, that's not necessarily to say I'm a worldly man. |
Posted By: dr wu23
Date Posted: May 27 2018 at 13:38
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Starless...... ------------- One does nothing yet nothing is left undone. Haquin |