PoS is terribly overrated.
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Topic: PoS is terribly overrated.
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Subject: PoS is terribly overrated.
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:41
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Yep i cant see what makes PoS so great...i mean they make ok songs and pretty standard prog metal stuff things that have been made a hundred times before. They make oversentimental lyrics wich just gets silly, it seems they are written by a overdepressive teenage girl They does not seem to be original in any way, or atleast i have not heard any spinechilling moments by them. I would rate them ok but far from geniuses and they are miles away from the likes of mars volta wich can make original music sound just incredible. As said before i can't really hear anything special about Pain of salvation and they really just sound like all the other prog metal bands ive heard before. And also they have pretty crappy guitarsound. |
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Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:43
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You are highly overrated! Your mom goes to college! OH SNAP ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:45
| Blah i found myself trying to listen to Remedy lane once again...but it was just so boring and the lyrics are so cliche |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:47
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It's a really great album, but I suppose it's not for everyone. I
personally found his guitar tone to be SICK, in the good way...
songs like Rope Ends to be amazing... and the thematic
connections are just great.
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Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:50
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Well, maybe being an Iron Maiden and Dream Theater fan yourself, the simple answer is that Pain of Salvation is way too complex for you and that's why you don't get it... stay with your easy tastes... ------------- Eppur si muove |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:50
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I never knew your name but I will miss you just the same Just to paste some of the OVER-depressing lyrics. Yep it is in no doubt a good album but its not a fantastic masterpiece because it is just standard prog metal wich is just well put together and all the standard time signatures like forexample in undertow where you got a classic dream theater time signature. I just dont hear any originality in PoS music, thats what makes it boring. Whenever i hear undertow i hear a dream theater wannabe band mixed with nickelback singing |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:52
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Complex PoS? Hardly...i would actually rate it a pretty easy album to get into. Just terribly boring. Frances the mute is a way more complex album than remedy lane will ever be. Its rather the other way around i dont think PoS is complex enough and that makes it boring |
nacho wrote:Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:53
You know, Daniel Gildenlow wrote that sound about a real life event... his wife miscarrying his first-born. How can that be 'over-doing it'? It REALLY HAPPENED! ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:54
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Maybe you would think different about the lyrics and sentimentality if YOUR girlfriend just had lost her unborn child ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to: 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:55
stfu and ask Mike Portnoy. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: vogre
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:55
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O_o Daniels singing style is far from being standard. The rythm part in the music might be not as complicated as in Dream Theater, but they have so many elements mixed in their music, combined with good songwritinng. |
Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:55
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dude............firstly Pain of Salvation rocks............. second... She can't stop pacing woooooow I think you got dt and Pos mixed up man ------------- 
Album of the week: Being 7/30/05 Remedy Lane 7/24/05 Pawn Hearts |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:57
Yep i know but its just crappy oversentimental love stuff wich i hate. I think a sad and true story like in delosued in the comatroium is much more well putt together without using so daft lyrics as these "Oh baby i love you yea yea but now your dead ye ye" Heh ok im overdoing it abit but it is pretty daft lovesong lyrics IMO. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 02:58
I dont concider dream theater great lyric writers. But atleast better than PoS + they make better music Six degrees is just a masterpiece. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:04
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Pain Of Salvation's music is far more rhythmically complex and
innovative than Dream Theater. If you don't see this, it's
possibly because it's also subtle and isn't full of lengthy, while
simplistic, flashy solos.
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:07
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Well perhaps they would have impressed me if they made a bit longer songs...but the songs are a bit short so they dont exactly get time to anything else but verse choros verse chorus (mid section with a new riff) verse again and/or perhaps ending chorus wich is repeted to all eternity, Pretty standard song structure if you ask me? |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:09
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Have you listened to any of PoS's other albums?
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:11
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Nope but that is concidered their masterpiece and i think if thats their grand masterpiece they are terribly overrated. Anyway i think that a song like sign of the cross is more complex than forexample beyond the pale they have equal length but maiden seem to get so much more music and timechanges and stuff into their song. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:14
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Do you grasp polyrhythms? The way the instruments interact all
over Remedy Lane is monstrously good... how many listens did you
give this album, anyway?
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:22
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Its a great album but its not a masterpiece ive have listened to the entire album about 5 times first to find out wich tracks are the most interesting and have listened to those tracks a couple of times. Anyways i would not rate the album a fantastically complex thing as the "bad" tracks does not seem to improve on a listen or two. PoS always reminds me of nickelback and creed and as i like those bands i also like PoS alot and i like that they have put some more complexity to the songs and as well as keeping them melodical as nickelback and creed great stuff. Anyways compared to forexample frances the mute the albums interest evaporates pretty quickly alot more complex and a incredible soundstructure on the tracks you can listen to a track countless times and still finding new elements with it. Frances the mute took a while to get used to as it alot more complex and groundbreaking in its genre than PoS will ever be. The only thing that is a bit cool with PoS is that they have putten some jazzy influences in their metal songs wich is not very typical for a prog metal band. And as a great fan of mahuvishnu orchestra i love a bit of jazzy influences. |
Posted By: hugo
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:24
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the beauty of PoS is how natural they make the complexity sound...they have so much stuff going on, stuff like chain sling, rope ends, fandango, etc...but they make it homogenous with their musical ideas, unlike dream theater, who i feel make complexity sound "clunky" and can't combine it with more normal songs. that's why you get extremely poppy songs from their like anna lee and i walk beside you, and even at their most complex they are less complex than PoS, in terms of comosition. the only thing they do better is "wank" or "choke their chickens". -------------
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:31
Nah i think often dream theater is accused of w**king with their instruments because of their great talents. But listen to a song like six degrees of inner turbulence...just a great song without all the "w**king" you describe. I think all great musicans will be accused of w**king but what is wrong with using your talents? Besides i dont find PoS music complex and although the transitions between timechanges flows quite nicely and smooth it is nothing compared to the masters of smooth timechanges Iron Maiden... Thats what i love with maiden...just the fantastic smooth transitions in music but even they have to bend in the dust for the marvelous mars volta wich makes so great music than you can cry. NOW THAT IS A TRUE MASTERPIECE. |
Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:57
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I agree with that!!!
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 03:59
Blah you are even spanish so you can understand their lyrics...Anyways PoS are compared to the mars volta...a pop-metal band. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:01
You are wrong! 
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:03
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SO ARE YOU YOU RONNIE JAMES DIO LOVING PERSON |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:04
The man in my icon is actually Daniel Gildenlow of Pain Of Salvation. 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:05
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Exactly. DT hurl the complexity right at your face, PoS write intricate songs that take some time to get to know them in order to be fully appreciated. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:07
You don't know anything about music, dude. "Thick as a brick", seriously. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:07
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Yep i know but i said before that it looked like ronnie james dio and it still looks like him in them rainbow days...anyways ronnie james dio is like 63 years old today...strange to think of. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:08
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:08
I concider them easy to get into compared to previous bands i have heard and i dont see what you are talking about when you say they are so incredibly complex. Personally i dont find any prog metal band inredibly complex... |
Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:10
Just to clarify that: believe me or not, it was in the third (and I think last ever) listen to that album that I realised they were TRYING to sing in Spanish. I thought it was some strange and ancient language until I started to recognise some words... the pronuntiation is just awful... I guess it's simply a matter of taste. Maybe age has something to do with it, but I can't see what the fuss about The Mars Volta is about. For me half of Frances is just nonsense noise and the other half is crappy punk (or prog-punk it that makes you feel better). On the other hand, I really like Pain of Salvation and I find their music complex, moving and very original (try to find a band with a similar sound...). Anyway, let's focus in what we share: I like Iron Maiden and Dream Theater, although I find them overrated. You like Pain of Salvation, but find them overrated. So here's to music!
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:10
One Hour At The Concrete Lake is the album for you. Knowing only Remedy Lane tells you as much about PoS as knowing only Scenes From A Memory tells you about DT. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:11
Ah well perhaps i should bash dream theater a bit too. MIKE PORTNOY IS THE MOST UNORIGINAL DRUMMER IN THE WORLD!!( although techically brilliant.) His drumming on the last album is pathetic |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:14
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:16
I love Iron Maiden ... now bash them, if you HAVE to negate anything I say ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:17
Ah a maiden fan? What ya think of blaze boy eh? |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:22
Bruce Dickinson rules ... but changing the subject doesn't make people forget the crap you said before ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:23
CRAP? I dont find PoS complex in any way? And although a great band not a fantastic masterpiece band. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:26
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Blaze Bailey was a poor fit for Maiden. His solo work is another
story, I enjoy it, but no one can really be the vocalist for Iron
Maiden but Dickenson... And PoS IS a masterpiece band, you are a perfect example of the Peter Principle applied to music. ------------- https://soundcloud.com/erin-susan-jennings" rel="nofollow - Bedroom guitarist". Composer, Arranger, Producer. Perfection may not exist, but I may still choose to serve Perfection. Commissions considered. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:27
Saying that they're not complex in any way results in many members not taking you seriously anymore. It's your opinion though, you're entitled to have one as much as I am. And making fun of Daniels dead unborn baby doesn't help things either. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:31
Ah im just saying the lyrics are so over sentimental that they sound more like a nickelback or creed song any other brainless songs. I have just heard so many " sad story" songs and i think it would have been a more approperiate way to hounour someone you love by making such silly lyrics. I know several bandmembers that have gone through a hard time and did not write such sentimental lyrics. I hate sentimental lyrics about love thats exactly why i listen to prog |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:33
| Besides i would rate forexample birds of fire for complex, a plague of lighthouse keepers complex or cassandra gemmini for complex...but i dont see in any means those terms of complexity in a PoS album. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 04:35
Then listen to OHBTCL or TPE1 ... TPE1 is even better than Remedy Lane IMHO. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 05:55
PoS is definitely not standard "prog metal". For that, see: Power of Omens, Symphony X, Sieges Even... I'd name more but I've managed to forget most of it |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:01
Try: Atheist, Cynic, Spastic Ink, Watchtower (doubtful, except on occasions), ATM Project, Cause for Effect (not really, but sort of), or Fredrik Thordendal's Special Defects then |
Posted By: SomethingGood
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:17
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What's with all the hate threads around here? i find it hard to grasp
how some of you supposedly love progressive music, but hate some of the
best progressive bands! is there some kind of unwritten rule stating
that you're not allowed to love both PoS and DT? Personally, i
absolutely love them both. I prefer PoS (I think the quality of their
albums is much more consistent than DT, there's quite a few DT songs i
skip when listening to their albums), however, i still rank DT
extremely highly. My advice is this: remove your heads from your arses, stop bitching about who's better, and just enjoy some brilliant music! |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:19
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^^^^^ This SomethingGood guy's got the right idea.
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:26
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Blah its just tiring with all these guys that screams about how good a band really is. Whenever i try to recommend a band or something there is just these guys that say this band is crap and so on. It gets quite irritating after awhile with people just bashing the bands that i like... And anyways when people that does not like prog metal they always go on bashin on dream theater that is very irritating also...there is alot bands that are worse that dream theater and i need to point that out for those who not listen to prog metal
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:28
You're bashing PoS, who many people like. I myself, though not a fan
of most of their output, think that they are far superior to Dream
Theater. |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:28
And yet, you bash the hell out of PoS. 
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:33
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Yep it need to be done by somebody. Anywell if i made a DT bashing thread or a TMV bashing thread i think there would have been several people that would agree with me...Myself i like bashing the bands that have not been bashed already. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:34
Go on then. This site lists 1, 644 bands. When will we expect them all successfully bashed by? |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:34
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Hey, at least it's not "Are PoS prog?" |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:35
Im just saying dont bash dream theater, bash instead the crappy prog metal bands... |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:36
In other words "Everyone should have identical taste in music as me". Oh grow up. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:38
Nah i just bash the bands that everybody likes...alot more fun |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:38
I think maiden's gonna be heartbroken when he realizes that the members
of DT *adore* PoS, and that Portnoy's invited Gildenlow to work on
several projects with him. 
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Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:38
As I said... grow up. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:43
Blah well bashing britney spears on a prog forum is no problem and that is exactly like bashing colosseum on a britney spears forum. However i would like to pont out that PoS is not geniouses of music they will never be as great as bands like dream theater and mars volta wich has much more fans and are much more creative. Yet these bands do not recive any bashin just because they are relatively unknown compared to TMV and Dream Theater and therefore everybody suddenly gets this crazy idea about PoS being better than those bands since they get bashed alot just because they are the most well known bands in the genre and PoS just gets the good words and that is pretty unfair if you ask me. |
Posted By: The Hemulen
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:47
Not true. People have criticised them in the past on this forum. There's no "recieved opinion" here; EVERYBODY has their own tastes. Basically, you're getting worked up against no one in particular. You don't have to like PoS! Stick with DT and TMV if that's what you want to do. I would advise you, though, to start talking about some other bands here or people could get very tired of your presence. Ever thought about trying some Gentle Giant? |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:49
Ok lets just end this before it gets a big quote party thing...anyways yes i have got some gentle giant on vinyl great stuff really Im planning on buying more on colosseum too after i got valentyne suite...great stuff. |
Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:50
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So....
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Posted By: hdfisch
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:52
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Just my opinion, okay you have yours. Everything's just a matter of taste. I really don't mind if some people prefer DT (I like as well, but not that much as PoS) or TMV.That's okay they should enjoy it. For me PoS is one of the best ProgMetal bands!
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Frances the mute is not complex, it's a big messy and pretentious cocktail of mostly unbearable tunes, especially the voice of the singer!
But the band has some good points, I mean they could become good one day, after they've learnt to create really good and high-quality music (and maybe after changing the vocalist, but I guess would be quite tough for them to find someone equivalent to Daniel Gildenlöw)!
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:53
What on earth is that really? By the way ive always wondered how an mellotron looked like anybody got a picture of it? |
Posted By: Man Overboard
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 06:54
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^^^^ that would indeed be a mellotron
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Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:00
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And you can always try this: http://www.mellotron.com/ - http://www.mellotron.com/
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Posted By: SomethingGood
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:05
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maidenrulez: at some points you're saying that
you're only bashing PoS because other people are bashing DT. at other
times you're saying that PoS are crap and unoriginal. i have to ask, can you honestly say you've sat down and listened to a PoS album properly? (and by properly, i mean with absolutely no preconceptions about them and without comparing them to anyone else). it seems like you're trying to compare the PoS albums to the DT and TMV albums, which is just stupid, because they are very, very different. from what i've gathered reading your posts, you have an extremely narrow-minded perspective when it comes to music, which i wouldn't have expected on a progressive music forum. something i've learned is to always listen to a new album at least a few times before writing it off, and to listen to the album with an open mind. an example i can think of is my experiences with Opeth, i listened to "Blackwater Park" and completely hated it because of the growling in the vocals. however, when i found out that the album "Damnation" had no growling i decided to give them a second chance, and absolutely loved it. since then i've given "Blackwater Park" another try and after a few listens it's starting to become one of my most-played albums at the moment. |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:05
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Yes i guessed it was a mellotron but i just had to confirm it because i have never seen one. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:08
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I actually love DT, PoS AND Symphony X. I think those are the three most important Progressive Metal bands. They all represent different approaches to Progressive Metal.Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:09
dt and symphony x sounds exactly the same. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:09
I prefer bashing no band at all over bashing all of them because some of them have been bashed ... stop bashing! ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:11
Open your ears, nicholas ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: SomethingGood
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:12
how many times can you say bash in one sentence?
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:12
You shouldn't have said that ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: nacho
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:13
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I hope you are using glasses. That would give your ears something useful to do...
------------- Eppur si muove |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:14
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I wonder what maiden thinks about Neal Morse, or the Flower Kings, or the Beatles, or Led Zeppelin ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Gentle Ronnie
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:16
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PoS > DT ------------- 
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Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:19
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PoS AND Heaven's Cry > DT > Symphony X Now, where does Shadow Gallery fit in ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:19
Led Zeppelin is great Neal morse is ok Flower kings i personally dont get The beatles...i prefer rolling stones |
Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:26
| And by the way ive got the odyssey cd with symphony-x and it is exactly the same music as dream theater...but as i love dream theater i love symphony x as well so its not a bad thing |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:35
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The Odyssey is somewhat similar to ToT, but not to any other DT album. And V: The New Mythology Suite and The Divine Wings Of Tragedy, which are the Symphony X key albums, are not like any DT album. Edit: Except in some short passages, as I explained earlier. ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:37
Ah well it sounds like dt but it just what i hear anyway. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:40
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Posted By: Lindsay Lohan
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:40
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Finally we agree |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 07:47
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Now that we've come this far, what do you guys think about Heaven's Cry? ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 08:06
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Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 09:39
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I'm not even going to bother. ------------- Life seemed to him merely like a gallery of how to be. 
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Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:22
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Maiden: There already appears to be an underlying hate around this forum surrounding Dream Theater. By "bashing" POS predominantly because others bash DT just shows you up to be immature. Maybe you should listen to more albums by POS rather than simply focusing your efforts on one. I'm not the biggest fan of POS either, but I still intend to get quite a few of their albums before making my mind up completely. It's possible to like both bands, you know. And I see very little resemblences between Dream Theater and Symphony X. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:48
He definitely has a point ... listen to The Looking Glass, and if you're a DT fan you'll have a deja vu during the intro. Honestly, you'll think "Is that Myung playing there?". ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: colin007
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 10:50
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go listen to "handful of nothing" if you want complex. ------------- This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember. We are eternal. All this pain is an illusion. |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 11:03
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That's on OHbtCL, isn't it? This is definitely the PoS album for polyrhythmic maniacs ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 11:06
The neoclassical ideas are executed similarly, but as somoene else said, there's a lot more of it - and much more power metal, and indeed metal in general, in Symphony X's sound (maybe that makes them less varied and more one-dimensional? Heaven's Cry? metal-archives is down so I can't find a link to their site... anyone got one? |
). There is quite a marked difference between the two - even if you took the vocals off, if I heard a whole song I'm pretty sure I'd know which it was.Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 11:08
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http://www.heavenscry.com/ - http://www.heavenscry.com/ ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 11:09
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D'oh, as if I didn't try that
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Posted By: goose
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 11:20
| Listened to a bit, it didn't really grab me. It's decently done, I guess, but not my cup of tea. |
Posted By: colin007
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 11:48
that is correct. ------------- This body holding me reminds me of my own mortality. Embrace this moment. Remember. We are eternal. All this pain is an illusion. |
Posted By: greenback
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 12:43
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the only problem with POS is the rhythmic guitar sound! ------------- [HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!> |
Posted By: MikeEnRegalia
Date Posted: June 13 2005 at 12:59
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It took as long to grow on me as did PoS ... ------------- https://awesomeprog.com/release-polls/pa" rel="nofollow - Release Polls Listened to:
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