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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote richardh Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2020 at 11:38
^ weirdly that also happened with The Nice - Ars Longa Vita Brevis and Procol Harum - Shine On Brightly , and both albums had side long pieces. I'm not really sure why Ars Long Vita Brevis is less prog than ELP- Tarkus? No one doubts that Tarkus is prog? Interestingly The Nice were put into 'Symphonic' here so there is a question as to whether they should even be considered to be 'Proto Prog' . From 1968 Keith Emerson and Procol were already embracing progressive ideas but perhaps without the 'finish' and professionalism that was to follow a year later.

In The Court was massively important though. It not only raised the benchmark but also made it clear that 'all bets were off'. After Rolling Stone famously did a 360 about turn in their opinion of the album , prog rock was here and sticking around! 


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Guldbamsen Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2020 at 11:03
It’s basically a tie between In The Court Of The Crimson King and Hot Rats - both albums released on the same day, 10th of October 1969.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2020 at 11:01
Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Nogbad_The_Bad wrote:

If it was good for 30 pages 10 years ago we can surely have a bit of a chat now.

In The Court Of The Crimson King is the first fully formed prog album IMHO, lots of elements came before on some very good albums but this is ground zero.

Caravan, Soft Machine, The Nice, The Moody Blues, Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa(or his representatives at least)are on their way to your house and want to have a word with you. WinkLOL

I agree KC had the first "official"(or the one that first gave the scene a lot of attention) prog album but it's certainly debatable if there was any "true" prog before it or not. For example on this site you will see many albums(and bands) that predate "court" that aren't considered proto prog. 
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If it was good for 30 pages 10 years ago we can surely have a bit of a chat now.

In The Court Of The Crimson King is the first fully formed prog album IMHO, lots of elements came before on some very good albums but this is ground zero.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote King of Loss Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2020 at 10:43
Mine probably was Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon. Still a great album to listen to!
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Catcher10 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2020 at 10:38
Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Sigh...interesting question...has been answered before...

I agree, unless something has changed in the definition of prog......the albums are the same.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote earlyprog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2020 at 10:05
Sigh...interesting question...has been answered before...

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote AFlowerKingCrimson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 03 2020 at 09:42
That post is from ten years ago. People are allowed to mention it again. If newer members want to discuss it they can't because older posts tend to be closed and therefore no one can reply to them. 

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http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=69508

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote A Bard Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: March 30 2020 at 12:07
What was the first Album that is prog and not proto-prog.  Is their an album that invented the basic of Prog rock or was it a slow evolution and the wasn't a clear jump from Proto prog to prog. So what is the first real prog album 
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