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Petrovsk Mizinski 
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 Posted: June 04 2009 at 04:14 |
 M@X wrote:
Maybe you are right or maybe not because as you may not know that PORCUPINE TREE released an intrumental version of "Fear of a Blank Planet".
So maybe it's just a new market trend to improve the quality and content of CD-package !
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Be nice if you have the option of being able to isolate individual tracks, so I can remove all the crappy guitar solos from what is an otherwise really great album.
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Marty McFly
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 04:12 |
DT without LaBrie would make a feel like it's missing something. Don't you think ? Genesis without Gabriel wasn't so good. I know, he in Gen was far more important, but still.
Actually, DT can impress a girl, in autumn 2008, when I was in pub with girl I was dating, I turned on my notebook and showed her Score, live from 2006. She was very impressed. Same situation was few times since. And when I met my current girl this february, first thing (which was by the way one of reasons to make a date) was to show her this gig. And she loves DT since.
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There's a point where "avant-garde" and "experimental" becomes "terrible" and "pointless," -Andyman1125 on Lulu  Even my
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 02:31 |
The T wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ why would someone buy 6 or more albums of a band that he hates?
Nah, I'm not buying that.
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Oh buy it. I own all 4 Mars Volta albums and probably will buy the fifth as a song is titled after a volcano in my country. So i will end with 5 cds of a band I almost hate  (with the exception of the first album). It's just that sometimes you try hard, and think that the next album will be the one you'll like. Alas, it doesn't happen.
Regarding the thread, I would actually have serious problems digesting DT without LaBrie.
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By "I'm not buying that" I really meant that I didn't believe what SFranke said on the previous page ... of course I'll be buying the album. 
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progkidjoel
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 01:29 |
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I don't like LaBrie's voice, TBH
but...
You can't deny his amazing vocal range
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Scrub
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 01:07 |
catfood03 wrote:
They could stage a TV show like INXS did and audition for a new singer, or swap LaBrie for an American Idol contestant. 
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Get Adam Lambert please! Lol...
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Isa
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 22:35 |
Greg W wrote:
Get rid of LaBrie and you get rid of half the cheese. Get rid of the rest of the band and you get rid of the other half of cheese. Just kidding....maybe........
Seriously, Labrie did a solid job on Human Equation. With DT, he is happy singing in that old hair spray metal style of voice which is extremely annoying. He has proven, he is quite capable of singing in a more modern style, so why does he still sing with that cliched 80's style glam metal voice? YUK!  |
\ Funny you should say that, actually... I went straight from being a total hair metal fan to a prog head in a matter of a couple weeks. I remember first hearing LaBrie's voice and thinking "wow... does he really have to sing all alternative rock like that?"  Ask any real fan of hair metal, they'd disagree with that statement.
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The T
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 22:32 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ why would someone buy 6 or more albums of a band that he hates?
Nah, I'm not buying that.
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Oh buy it. I own all 4 Mars Volta albums and probably will buy the fifth as a song is titled after a volcano in my country. So i will end with 5 cds of a band I almost hate (with the exception of the first album). It's just that sometimes you try hard, and think that the next album will be the one you'll like. Alas, it doesn't happen.
Regarding the thread, I would actually have serious problems digesting DT without LaBrie.
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JayDee
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 20:25 |
LaBrie's gonna be replaced by Portnoy.  Seriously, I can't picture Dream Theater having a different vocalist aside from LaBrie.
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King Crimson776
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 17:59 |
^ Girl's like DT!? f**k! And to think I've been trying to like Radiohead!
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Logan
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 17:28 |
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^ the lengths some will go to to impress a girl. ;)
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Mr ProgFreak
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 17:04 |
^ why would someone buy 6 or more albums of a band that he hates? Nah, I'm not buying that.
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SFranke
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 16:53 |
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I admittedly hate DT, but I have tried hard to get into the band (I've owned and listened to all but three albums). That said, when I watched the SC documentary, it became apparent that JL sounds like a nasally, insincere, cheesy goof because that's what MP wants him to sound like (so he'll fit in with the rest of the band, naturally).
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Greg W
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 15:05 |
Get rid of LaBrie and you get rid of half the cheese. Get rid of the rest of the band and you get rid of the other half of cheese. Just kidding....maybe........
Seriously, Labrie did a solid job on Human Equation. With DT, he is happy singing in that old hair spray metal style of voice which is extremely annoying. He has proven, he is quite capable of singing in a more modern style, so why does he still sing with that cliched 80's style glam metal voice? YUK! |
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SergiUriah
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 14:13 |
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I´d would be a good new. La Brie´s voice has never convinced me very much. Even when I saw them on stage 2 years ago, the sensation about his nasal voice was negative for me. I expected much more from him.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 12:46 |
crimhead wrote:
Maybe they can get Susan Boyle from "Britain's got Talent".
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crimhead
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 12:42 |
Maybe they can get Susan Boyle from "Britain's got Talent".
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Endless Wire
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 12:06 |
The bonus mixes are just for the guitar/bass/drum/key geeks that make of about 95% of the DT audience.
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moshkito
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 12:05 |
Nightfly wrote:
... Rather ironic considering Portnoy and Petrucci's hold on the band in that department. also they were not satisfied with the fact that he was making no atempts to develop his skills as a vocalist (singing lessons etc) ... |
I actually think this is quite likely and possible ... but I don't think that it got to the point where it might hurt the chemistry in the band ...
You gotta remember that there is a lot of history of well educated musicians, which at least 3 DT members are and then some ... and employ/work with someone like James LaBrie's energy and vocal work ... the raw energy often helps develop what can end up sounding rather stoic and boring and repetitious compositions ... which (for example) my roomate thinks 6 Degrees is ... I don't ... I happen to think it is quite fine!
In my book, and you can see this on the live album with the orchestra, this is a band that KNOWS what they are doing ... and it is common for musicians that are that strong and talented to place demands on each other ... and asking LaBrie to learn something more about his voice and vocal abilities would not necessarily be a bad thing ... and I actually think that James might enjoy that ... not that he is going to sing Rigoletto tomorrow for crying out loud! Probably make a good one too!!!!
But it would add a lot to their musical expression and ability if they are not "locked" into one mode of music ... the metallic sound, for example ... and would allow the band to expand into other areas ... and YES ... I would like to see a long piece that is way more than just another sonata format piece of music! And that is important and I'm sure that the band understands this ... it might also be an issue if Myung brings out a song in a staff and James looks at it and he ... doesn't know C from a D on it ... yeah ... that would be a problem eventually when you are dealing with graduate school and above musicians!
The other concern might be that James likes his freedom to randomly vocalize and this may be an issue on a band playing some difficult music to begin with ... this is not begginner stuff and you can not teach this to a beginner musician ... and expect to stay in one piece, and in that sense, I wonder if at times James gets lost and doesn't know where he is ... which of course could easily be remedied with a couple sheets of music and such ... but I would seriously doubt that James can not read music or be stupid enough not to get better with a bunch of guys like these ... that's insane! go do pop music then!
Edited by moshkito - June 03 2009 at 12:12
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AstralliS
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 10:34 |
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He said that because LaBrie together with the rest of the original team (MP/JP/JM) "built" Dream Theater, and that fact is undisputably. It was expected that time will come when their musical capabilities will disintegrate in the run, and singer is always first in such flow. Those what really is disquietly now is the disintegration of their creativity what has the best preview on "Systematic Chaos" and "Black Clouds & Silver Linings".
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: June 03 2009 at 10:25 |
AstralliS wrote:
Remember Systematic Chaos bonus DVD? There, Portnoy very explicitly says that James LaBrie is Dream Theater and that what you are presuming is without any principles. How much LaBrie would be bad, it wouldn't be good to have another vocalist. Maybe some guest appearances, but another change in the line-up. LaBrie is also indebted for that what Dream Theater has done as a band. And we have to accept it.
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I don't have the DVD. Why would he say such a thing, especially when everyone knows that the band is run by Portnoy and Petrucci? DT is actually truly MP/JP/JM, the only original members, if it needed to be said. That strikes me as odd he would voice such a thing.
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