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Topic: What defines the sound of AOR? Posted: August 17 2012 at 10:20
rushfan4 wrote:
Interestingly enough, I picked up an issue of Classic Rock Presents AOR (Issue 5 from October 2011) and I finally got around to starting to read it this morning. Not sure if it is a case of rewriting history or not, but they seem to indicate that bands like Def Leppard, Motley Crue, KISS, and Bon Jovi are AOR. I suppose that I can see the connection, but these bands were mostly considered to be hair metal or glam metal back in the day. I don't know that I would have necessarily included these bands under the AOR umbrella, but it does make a certain sense to me as my music collection consists of as much of these type bands as it does the traditionally thought of AOR bands like Foreigner, Asia, Journey, Toto, Night Ranger, etc... Definitely one of my favorite genres, if not my favorite.
I recently watched on youtube a documentary giving an insight into the clash between glam metal and thrash metal back in the eighties. I didn't know there was so much hate from thrashers towards glam metal back in those days. Still today, when you discuss with fans of extreme metal, they despise with a passion everything revolving around glam, AOR or hair metal. I for one don't care about the way the glamers dress and their supposedly non-metal music. I wonder if Skid Row were not trying to reconcile both camps when they released 'slave to the grind', it was somewhat borderline thrash.I believe the ear-candy melodies factor is the link between glam metal and AOR (well, for the latter, the melodic hard-rock bands at least)
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Posted: August 17 2012 at 08:50
Interestingly enough, I picked up an issue of Classic Rock Presents AOR (Issue 5 from October 2011) and I finally got around to starting to read it this morning. Not sure if it is a case of rewriting history or not, but they seem to indicate that bands like Def Leppard, Motley Crue, KISS, and Bon Jovi are AOR. I suppose that I can see the connection, but these bands were mostly considered to be hair metal or glam metal back in the day. I don't know that I would have necessarily included these bands under the AOR umbrella, but it does make a certain sense to me as my music collection consists of as much of these type bands as it does the traditionally thought of AOR bands like Foreigner, Asia, Journey, Toto, Night Ranger, etc... Definitely one of my favorite genres, if not my favorite.
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Posted: April 08 2012 at 08:23
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Ha ha , like i said in my OP, it seems to be a rather debated genre, and its showing in the replies here.
Some generes out there are very debated. Pop Metal is another example. Many metal fans dont even wanna accept "pop metal" as a sub genre, they think the two words should never belong in the same sentance.
Im not familiar at all though with what pre 80's AOR is meant to be, im only knowledgable on what 80s onwards kind is meant to be. I was a big huge metal fan in my late teens till my late 20's, but since hitting my 30s ive moved away from it more, even to the point i dont consider it my favourite genre anymore.
I mean with the AOR band examples i mentioned in my OP, i listen to stuff like that, and then if i try and listen to bands like Metallica, Slipknot, System of a Down, Sepultura ect, ill sit there and think "ummm where's the melody?". In my opinion, Hair Metal (which isnt true metal) and AOR gives a decent level of crunchyness and hi energy, but gives you plenty of melody and vocal lushness aswell.
you should check out Cannata, very dramatic AOR, it is on PA, and it is very glossy and produced
also maybe want to check ACT, progressive AOR rock, with influence from Toto, Supertramp, Dream Theater, Queen, Abba, and other cool bands with AOR touches,
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Posted: April 07 2012 at 13:38
Ha ha , like i said in my OP, it seems to be a rather debated genre, and its showing in the replies here.
Some generes out there are very debated. Pop Metal is another example. Many metal fans dont even wanna accept "pop metal" as a sub genre, they think the two words should never belong in the same sentance.
Im not familiar at all though with what pre 80's AOR is meant to be, im only knowledgable on what 80s onwards kind is meant to be. I was a big huge metal fan in my late teens till my late 20's, but since hitting my 30s ive moved away from it more, even to the point i dont consider it my favourite genre anymore.
I mean with the AOR band examples i mentioned in my OP, i listen to stuff like that, and then if i try and listen to bands like Metallica, Slipknot, System of a Down, Sepultura ect, ill sit there and think "ummm where's the melody?". In my opinion, Hair Metal (which isnt true metal) and AOR gives a decent level of crunchyness and hi energy, but gives you plenty of melody and vocal lushness aswell.
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Posted: April 07 2012 at 09:48
The AOR of the late seventies was hard-rock driven, but somewhat different by putting the stress on vocal harmonies and simple structures close to pop music, like Blackjack, Stingray (mix of Queen and Boston), early TOTO, Nantucket, Journey, Ian Thomas Band, Trevor Rabin...
Later in the mid-eighties, AOR tended to be more pop-oriented but keeping the strong vocal harmonies. Saga's 'Behaviour' is a nice example of typical AOR of the mid-eighties : emotion over technique, bombastic synths, striking choruses, strong vocals, mid-tempo, use of electronic drums.
Edited by lucas - April 07 2012 at 10:03
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Posted: April 06 2012 at 09:23
AOR is kind of hard rock with high standard production (contrary to "garage"/"grungy"/dirty sound) music could be any kind of rock-influenced styles (rock-n-roll, boogie, blues, slow bluesy ballad, etc ) Generally, it is addressed to older age listeners, who grew up on good old rocknroll
also, it could be considered as "post-prog" (de)evolution of retired prog bands :-)
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Posted: April 06 2012 at 03:27
aginor wrote:
my favourite album is Isolation, a firce technical AOR album, it will blow of anyones hair, cause it is insanly technical and complex
Yuck; everything I hate about AOR and 80's pop
The only thing I ever liked about Toto was the Hold The Line single on their debut album...
I don't dislike everything usually categorized in AOR, though, likr Boston's debut (I actually don't think that one should be seen as AOR, unlike their other albums)
For me, AOR includes Fleetwood Mac's Rumours, most of Steely Dan's albums (not Gaucho,
Mutez wrote:
but bands like Status Quo, U2, Dire Straits, Mike and the Mechanics, Bryan Adams, Nazereth, Van Halen, The Who, Rolling Stones and possibly Queen, should not be placed in AOR.
OK, I agree with most bands you icluded in AOR, but among those you don't, I'm not as much in the ones you exclude
Those bolded in black are definitely AOR in my book, while those in red became AOR in the early 80's (were definitely not befiore), and the Stones and Who albums of those years (early 80's) were borderline cases, also being very pure-pop (especiallt Queen
Edited by Sean Trane - April 06 2012 at 03:35
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Posted: April 05 2012 at 02:10
Mid-tempo, electric-guitar driven, tyranny of four, background bar music...either of the fast-in-the-air rocker or emotional ballad variety. Catchy choruses practically mandatory.
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Posted: April 05 2012 at 02:05
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AOR is the mix of heavy rock, arena rock, west coast rock and prog into what it is, flamboyos, grand, full of harmonies, laud, direct but also catchy, singable and danceable,
one of my favourite bands are Toto who are one of the most tallented bands to grace this world, technicly they can and could shake the hands with the most skillfull prog bands, without blushing,
I wanna second praise for Toto. Jesus, Lukather's work on IV is fantastic and has actually become a favorite listen of mine.
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Posted: April 04 2012 at 12:59
Very commercial, user-friendly American Rock music that is highly polished with no rough edges and very glossy production qualities. The AOR (album oriented rock) tag is a little misleading, as the music is very much suited to singles and day time radio play. A better name would be something like.... Professional Establishment Rock...
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Posted: April 04 2012 at 11:50
AOR is the mix of heavy rock, arena rock, west coast rock and prog into what it is, flamboyos, grand, full of harmonies, laud, direct but also catchy, singable and danceable,
one of my favourite bands are Toto who are one of the most tallented bands to grace this world, technicly they can and could shake the hands with the most skillfull prog bands, without blushing,
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Posted: April 04 2012 at 08:44
While AOR is not my favourite genre, but it is one I like. It is great music to listen to when driving long distances (especially on long and lonely African Highways).
What defines it sound? First of all, the lead vocalist usually can sing really well! Something I cannot say for all prog bands. The sound is a mixuture of hard rock and pop which borrows the bombastic sounds and atmosphere often found in Porg Rock. The production is usually very professional and sometimes can border on the “over-produced”.
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