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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 00:21
Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:


I think this is prog's basic arc, imo


  • 1967-1970     Prog on the Rise
  • 1971-1974     Prog Peak
  • 1975-1977     Decline
  • 1978-1981     Fall of Prog
  •  1981-  


Agree 100%



Disagree 100%.

The eighties were horrible, that for sure, but the 90's and 00's have been great prog time!!

Disagree 50 %  . Until 1981 it is right, but neo-prog gave us some great albums. The '90's and '00's gave us Flower Kings, Arena, Magenta etc., which are not on a par with the best eighties bands, let alone the best seventies bands.

The best year just happens to be ... '73? But after that there's a lot of great music too!

so let me rephrase::

  • 1967-1970     Ascent of Prog
  • 1971-1974     Golden Era
  • 1975-1977     Decline...
  • 1978-1981     ...and Fall
  • 1981-2005     Banished Prog Underground in shattered and scattered remnants  
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 01:04

    I'm still feelin 1972...

    Genesis - Foxtrot

    Yes - Fragile, Close To The Edge

    Jethro Tull - Thich As A Brick

    Pink Floyd - Obscured By Clouds

    ELP - Pictures At An Exhibition, Trilogy

    But i think i agree more with the peak being between 1972 - 1977 rather than i single year such as 1973.

    Yes, even 1977 was good...

    Pink Floyd - Animals

    Genesis - Seconds Out, Wind & Wuthering

    Kansas - Point of Know Return

    Rush - A Farewell To Kings

    Yes - Going For The One

    Jethro Tull - Songs From The Wood

     

     

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 01:05
    Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

    Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

    Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

    Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

    Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:


    I think this is prog's basic arc, imo


    • 1967-1970     Prog on the Rise
    • 1971-1974     Prog Peak
    • 1975-1977     Decline
    • 1978-1981     Fall of Prog
    •  1981-  


    Agree 100%



    Disagree 100%.

    The eighties were horrible, that for sure, but the 90's and 00's have been great prog time!!

    Disagree 50 %  . Until 1981 it is right, but neo-prog gave us some great albums. The '90's and '00's gave us Flower Kings, Arena, Magenta etc., which are not on a par with the best eighties bands, let alone the best seventies bands.

    The best year just happens to be ... '73? But after that there's a lot of great music too!

    so let me rephrase::

  • 1967-1970     Ascent of Prog
  • 1971-1974     Golden Era
  • 1975-1977     Decline...
  • 1978-1981     ...and Fall
  • 1981-2005     Banished Prog Underground in shattered and scattered remnants  

     

  • Oh Yes - I agree totally with your updated post  I personally think Prog peaked 1972/1973 - all my favourite classic albums came out over these two years, most of which have been named above. With the exception of ITCOTCK 1969!!



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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 04:06
    Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:

    Originally posted by Moogtron III Moogtron III wrote:

    Originally posted by Logos Logos wrote:

    Originally posted by flowerchild flowerchild wrote:

    Originally posted by NetsNJFan NetsNJFan wrote:


    I think this is prog's basic arc, imo


    • 1967-1970     Prog on the Rise
    • 1971-1974     Prog Peak
    • 1975-1977     Decline
    • 1978-1981     Fall of Prog
    •  1981-  


    Agree 100%



    Disagree 100%.

    The eighties were horrible, that for sure, but the 90's and 00's have been great prog time!!

    Disagree 50 %  . Until 1981 it is right, but neo-prog gave us some great albums. The '90's and '00's gave us Flower Kings, Arena, Magenta etc., which are not on a par with the best eighties bands, let alone the best seventies bands.

    The best year just happens to be ... '73? But after that there's a lot of great music too!

    so let me rephrase::

  • 1967-1970     Ascent of Prog
  • 1971-1974     Golden Era
  • 1975-1977     Decline...
  • 1978-1981     ...and Fall
  • 1981-2005     Banished Prog Underground in shattered and scattered remnants  

     

  • That sums it all up just fine, mate. No need of further discusions

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 06:21
    Yeah 1973 !!! But just count in an album that completes the holy crail: GENTLE GIANT "Three friends" (actually 1972), but let five be even. The best time was between 1972 and 1974. Three years that changed music history in general. 
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 02 2005 at 06:37

    1973: Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of The Moon

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 18:27

    I Think 72 was the best year it had some

    GREAT albums.

     

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 19:07
    YOU'RE ALL WRONG!

    THE BEST YEAR OF PROG WILL BE 2065



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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 22:31

    For me, 1973 is tied with 1972, which has

    Jethro Tull- Thick as a Brick
    Genesis- Foxtrot
    Yes- Close to the Edge
    ELP- Trilogy
    Yes- Fragile

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2006 at 22:55
    Originally posted by dalt99 dalt99 wrote:

    I think 1973 and 1972 were just about equal but I think 1972 was a TINY BIT better.

    1. PFM - Per Un Amico AND Storia di un Minuto
    2. Yes - Fragile AND Close to the Edge
    3. Banco - Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso AND Darwin!
    4. Genesis - Foxtrot
    5. Jethro Tull - Thick as a Brick
    6. Gentle Giant - Octopus AND Three Friends!
    7. Le Orme - Uomo di Pezza
    8. Balleto di Bronzo - Ys
    9. ELP - Trilogy AND Pictures at an Exhibition
    10. Focus - Focus III
    11. Mellow Candle - Swaddling Songs
    12. Khan - Space Shanty
    13. Metamorfosi - Inferno
    14. Nektar - A Tab in the Ocean
    15. Wishbone Ash - Argus
    16. Quella Vechia Locanda - Quella Vechia Locanda
    17. Uriah Heep - Demons and Wizards
    18. Frank Zappa - The Grand Wazoo AND Waka Jawaka
    19. Agitation Free - Malesch
    20. Raccomandata Ricevuta Ritorno - Per...
    21. Strawbs - Grave New World
    22. Osanna - L'Uomo
    23. Gnidrolog - Lady Lake
    24. Sandrose - Sandrose

     

     

    Thank you.

    And thank you also for remembering Argus by Wishbone Ash

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 02:54
    Most new proggers tend to underestimate the the importance of the
    Beatles to the development of prog and the influence they had on the
    fledgling musicians of the time. The golden age of prog (1969 to 1974)
    followed on directly from the demise of the Fab Four in 1969. Record
    companies of the time were falling over themselves to find the "next
    Beatles" and were open to the market potential of the kind of
    experimentation that the Beatles pioneered in their later years.

    I heard Rick Wakeman speaking about this particular matter on a radio
    interview during his recent tour of Australia. He went to pains to point out
    that the record company execs were happy to give the newer groups of
    the time as much leeway as they needed in the studio and that they never
    darkened the studio door nor expressed opinions regarding musical
    direction. After all, what did they know apart from the fact that there was
    a gaping hole had been left in the market?

    German Polydor (who had the Beatles on their label in the pre-Parlophone
    days) were so keen to discover/manufacture the new Beatles that they
    commissioned and bankrolled an effort in that direction which became
    Faust. It is no accident that Faust produced their hugely experimental
    classic first albums in the 71-74 period.

    The return of prog in the 90s has as much to do with technology as
    anything else. With the availability of cheap computer-based music
    technology, musicians have been able to self-produce their own efforts
    independent of expensive studios and cynical A&R types. The internet has
    given them access to global niche markets. This site in particular has
    given prog a welcome "kick along" in the past 5 years (?) or so.

    History shows us why the early 70s constituted the first golden era of
    prog and why we're in the middle of another one now. (See my thread
    "Why did prog go away?")

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 02:57
    One of the best years of prog without  a doubt.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 05:31
    let's just stay above the moral melee
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 05:38
    Originally posted by Thufir Hawat Thufir Hawat wrote:

    I Think 72 was the best year it had some

    GREAT albums.

     

    Yeah man -

    • Close to the Edge (and MAYBE Fragile? says so on my cd)
    • Foxtrot
    • Thick as a Brick
    • Moving Waves
    • The Grand Wazoo
    • Trilogy (And Tarkus?)

    And LOADS more I can't think of, hehe. Anyway 72/73, some of the greatest prog albums came out in those years.

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 05:56

    CLOSE TO THE EDGE, FRAGILE (EVEN IT WAS RECORDED IN 1971)

    THICK AS A BRICK

    FOXTROT

    STORIA DI UN MINUTO, PER UN AMICO

    UOMO DI PEZZA

    TRILOGY

    OKTOPUS

     

    1972

     

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 07:50
    In the same period: Hatfield and the North, Henry Cow's Legend and the
    scintillatingly experimental early Faust albums.

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 08:04
    '72 was slightly better. A BIT only!
    Oh yes I don't know if anyone corrected but Tales was released 1974.


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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 08:14

    sorry guys, but I have to go with 72!

    Jethro Tull- Thick as a Brick

    Yes- Fragile, Close to the Edge

    Genesis- Foxtrot

    Heep- Demons and Wizards

    ELP- Pictures, Trilogy

     

    And I also think that Thick, CttE, Foxtrot, and Pictures are the best albums for their respective bands!

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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:42
    anyone f**kin care?
    I can strangle a canary in a tin can and it would be really original, but that wouldn't save it from sounding like utter sh*t.
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    Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 05 2006 at 10:50

    Originally posted by geezer geezer wrote:

    Top 5 released in '73:

    Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - Io Sono Nato Libero
    Le Orme - Felona e Sorona
    Museo Rosenbach - Zarathustra
    Renaissance - Ashes are Burning
    Semiramis - Dedicato a Frazz


    I'm right there with you.  Some great releases you mentioned.

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