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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 18 2006 at 18:50
I have to say that Jethro Tull was one of those groups who, so to speak, opened me the gates to the world of Prog (together with ELP and King Crimson; with Pink Floyd I was already acquainted). A magical world. (And they are still one of my favourite groups). At the beginning I haven't understood anything, I was almost unfamiliar with this unusual language; it took me about six-seven listenings until I finally realised that I'm listening to something... don't know... very promising... intriguing... after that it has revealed that it is just great. The first albums I heard were Heavy Horses, Aqualung, and Bursting Out. They are still amongst my favourite albums (in quite a "warm" company of some dozen (or so) of others). And I decided to deepen my acquantaince with the band. I was buying album after album, and there wasn't any disappointment, on the contrary -- my love and respect to the group only grew. Then I started to differentiate -- say, Thick as a Brick is an awesome album, but I like A Passion Play more. The first (and only) disappointment was Under Wraps. At that point I realised that I'll have all their albums. There are some albums which I consider weaker than others, but they' are not disappointments by any means. For example, both 1995 albums -- Roots to Branches by Jethro Tull and Divinities: Twelve Dances with God by Ian Anderson (I have his discography also, in parallel) are amongst their overall best achievements, in my opinion. ...And I'm still hoping to hear something new and interesting from them.
 
(Temporary) end of praising... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2006 at 03:02
I think I'll call my new album "Broadchild Rising." It'll have Skating Away and Rainbow Blues, and Pussy Willow and Jack Frost and the Hooded Crow, and This is not Love and some other song!
"There seem to be quite a large percentage of young American boys out there tonight. A long way from home, eh? Well so are we... Gotta stick together." -I. Anderson
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2006 at 06:52
I honestly can't see any other band having a greater career than Tull ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2006 at 23:35
Jethro Tull are a lovely slow burning band for me. I've been a big fan of 68-72 Tull for many years. I find the mid-late seventies a hit and miss situation (more hits). The eighties and nineties are still only lightly skated on. Crest feels to be strongest release of the eighties. Catfish is probably the nineties choice. Having Tulls complete catalogue, I now find more time to focus on the latter works. Previously only listened to once or twice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 19 2006 at 23:49
Yes, they really are magnificent. So long-lived and prolific, surviving huge changes without becomming stuck, and continuing to make quality music. Plus, you can still go see them and be thoroughly satisfied, they play the old and the new with vigor year after year. I don't think that can be said of anyone except Crimson.
    




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2006 at 01:27

^^^YUP!Big smile

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2006 at 03:24

Aren't Tull and Crimso the only two classic bands that didn't quite sell out? I mean, Yes, Genesis and ELP all gave out at some point, and Pink Floyd kinda became a marketing tool, but Under Wraps is faaar too weird to be marketed as pop...unless Ian's really, REALLY stupid about that sort of thing.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2006 at 05:04
Originally posted by Tormato Tormato wrote:

Originally posted by chamberry chamberry wrote:

I love A Passion Play. It's one of my personal favorite prog albums from the 70's. I love it for the same things as many people hate it. (My very first signature was a rabbit like the story)My very first Tull album was Roots to Branches and I love it as well. It isn't a masterpiece, but still a very strong effort.

 

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   Yes, I love A Passion Play more than any other JT album, even with the story of the hare that lost etc. that every one hates. I think that the intro  of APP is one of the most amazing recordings I've ever heard in prog rock.But be aware that Passion is a very complex album and a lot of people just can't get it. I was patient enough to understand it, and was highly rewarded. The story is marvelous, full of mystery and imagination, and it takes you on a tour de force through death, limbo, hell and back to life after rebelling against the devil. quiz yourself: have you ever been able to listen to a complete symphony or opera for once in your life? have you read books? Well, if you have, chances are that you will love it with PASSION. If you want shorter, easier listening songs, try "Songs from the Woods", "Aqualung" -oh, you already have it- or "Heavy Horses".

 

    Yes I agree with you. Passion play is for me JT best, and one of prog masterpieces overall.
I also like TAAB, Stand up, This was, Minstell, Benefit,

The best JT DVD is their concert 1977 on London hyppodrome. They were in great form and in rheir show include peaces of TAAB and Passion play. Excellent DVD
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2006 at 17:43
Originally posted by pero pero wrote:

 

Yes I agree with you. Passion play is for me JT best, and one of prog masterpieces overall.
I also like TAAB, Stand up, This was, Minstell, Benefit,

The best JT DVD is their concert 1977 on London hyppodrome. They were in great form and in rheir show include peaces of TAAB and Passion play. Excellent DVD
 
It's interesting that your faves are the full prog albums and the more simpler bluesy albums. But you don't mention the albums which are mildly complex(more complex than the bluesy stuff and less complex than the full prog albums TAAB and APP). Remasters such as Heavy horses, SFTW, Stormwatch, Warchild, Dotcom, Roots and A. There's probably about 5 prog songs on each of those remasters. Great mild-very prog remasters. There's even 3 or 4 proggy ongs on the Broadsword remaster


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2007 at 10:03
I'm a huge fan of JT, since I'm 16 years (now I'm 36)
My TOP 10 albums in order
1 - A passion play *****
2 - Songs from the wood *****
3 - TAAB *****
4 - Aqualung *****
5 - Heavy horses *****
6 - Stand up ****
7 - Minstrel in the gallery ****
8 - The Chrismas Album ****
9 - War child ****
10 - Benefit ****
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two bad albums "A" and "Under wraps"
 
- I think JT is not a classic Prog band in the construction of his songs (Except TAAB and APP), but the music is a good mix of various genre, and a mix of differents instruments and sounds. In this way It's very PROG for me.
I remember a concert at the Olympia, Ian said something like that :
"Now do you Remember this song, thick as brick, when we were a progessive band" 
 
Tormato say :
The best JT DVD is their concert 1977 on London hyppodrome. They were in great form and in rheir show include peaces of TAAB and Passion play. Excellent DVD 
 
--- > I agree Very good concert, but a poor image.
 
In conclusion : Do you know other Prog Band like JT who made more than ten good or very good albums ? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2007 at 11:21
Originally posted by kyrandia kyrandia wrote:

Do you know other Prog Band like JT who made more than ten good or very good albums ? 
 
This is subjective but here goes...
 
I love Jethro Tull's discography and looking at the PA ratings they have 10 albums with ratings of 4.00 or higher and Ian Anderson has 1 solo album with a rating of 4.00 or higher.
 
One of my favourite artists is Steve Hackett. If you look at his work he has 7 albums rated at 4.00 or higher and if you count his work with Genesis you can add another 6 albums with 4.00 plus ratings, bringing his total to 13 albums.
 
But the winner (as far as I've found) is Frank Zappa with 26 albums rated at 4.00 or higher - that is a phenomenal number.
 
So, albums with 4.00 or higher rating:
 
Frank Zappa = 26
Tangerine Dream = 16 (mind you 9 of these albums have less than 5 reviews)
Steve Hackett / Genesis = 13
Jethro Tull / Ian Anderson = 11
Peter Gabriel / Genesis = 9
Genesis = 7 (all consecutively released!)
Gentle Giant = 7 (again, all consecutively released, quite an accomplishment)
King Crimson = 7
Pink Floyd = 7
Rush = 7
Yes = 5
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 10 2007 at 14:12
Heavy Horses. Very evocative. I used to work in horse stables and had this album playing all the time. I particularily like the track The Mouse Police because we had four tabby cats which were kept just for the purpose of killing the mice which would get into the horse feed. See my review.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2007 at 03:58
Originally posted by Firepuck Firepuck wrote:

Originally posted by kyrandia kyrandia wrote:

Do you know other Prog Band like JT who made more than ten good or very good albums ? 
 
 
So, albums with 4.00 or higher rating:
 
Frank Zappa = 26
Tangerine Dream = 16 (mind you 9 of these albums have less than 5 reviews)
Steve Hackett / Genesis = 13
Jethro Tull / Ian Anderson = 11
Peter Gabriel / Genesis = 9
Genesis = 7 (all consecutively released!)
Gentle Giant = 7 (again, all consecutively released, quite an accomplishment)
King Crimson = 7
Pink Floyd = 7
Rush = 7
Yes = 5
 
Very interesting job Firepuck, I was not far from the truth with JT...
But you missed some good bands, I have a look too...
Marillon = 7
PFM = 7
Porcupine tree = 7
 
see others ???
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 11 2007 at 07:47
I'm surprised nobody mentioned excellent Living in The Past!!!

Yeah, I know, someone will say that's a compillation, but wait a second...from 80 minutes of playing time (21 song), sixteen songs were never published before! More than enough for an album! I always tought of this one as an album rather than a compillation...

Just Trying To Be....ClapClapClapClapClap

Beautiful. No other band did such a bunch of songs...ever.

Long time Tull-fan getting emotional...I better stop.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2007 at 17:02
LITP is close to the bands best cd. All those classic singles and so called album rejects ;). Half of those songs are spread over the This was, Stand up and Benefit remasters now and they pretty much stand out as the best songs on each cd. I would have preffered to see those songs on the albums originally, because they would have been much stronger albums and a much better representation of the band at the time. Benefit is a much better album with Teacher, Witches promise and Just trying to be ;)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 12 2007 at 21:47
Probably my all-time favourite band. Their worst moment was Under Wraps (but not so bad as many people seems to believe) and if i had to choose their best i would say APP one of the best pieces of music ever written in the 20th century.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 15 2007 at 08:59
Originally posted by The Whistler The Whistler wrote:

Stormwatch is a solid album, true enough. I never really got Elegy though, until I heard a live version (from http://www.raylomus.com/Jethro_Tull.html, for reference's sake). I'm not sure why, but the album version was pretty, but I never really liked Barre's electric presence. In the live version, it all clicks.
 
Hmm..Elegy is absolutely gorgeous. Right up their with Requiem as one of the most beautiful things they have ever done. As for Barre's guitar. One of my all time favourite solos by any one. Simply sublime. Flying Dutchman is also a masterpiece.
 
Tull have been firmly entrenched in my top 5 favourite bands since I first discovered them when I was 17 back in 1981. Back then my top 5 bands were Floyd, Tull, Sabbath, Tangerine Dream and Iron Maiden. Only TD and and Tull have remained a constant in that lst throughout the last 25 odd years. Others have come and gone (Rush, Marillion, Asia, Pavlov's Dog...) but Tull have always been there.
 
The thing about JT.... there's no such thing as a bad Tull Album... They're all good it's just that some are better than others. Only other band I can say that about are Rush! 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2007 at 10:49
Love Thick as a Brick and Minstrel in the Gallery. As for there later albums I would have to say Stormwatch and Crest of a Knave(Even though its technically not prog).  A Classic Case is amazing too.Sleepy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2007 at 10:51
I am REALLY looking forward to seeing Tull this summer..... I have never been an ardent Tull fan, but the opportunity to see them is quite exciting!!!
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