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tremulant
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Joined: June 19 2005
Location: Australia
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Points: 143
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Posted: June 01 2007 at 22:46 |
Geck0 wrote:
The ZART has been around for a while now, but only now are we really concerned about sorting the whole thing out. We feel the definition needs rewriting and that is what we plan to do. It's a slow process, but hopefully we'll have it done sometime soon. We're still discussing everything as a team, especially which bands come under which category of Avant-Prog (which RIO is).We of course are still adding bands too, despite the lack of a proper definition. The members of the ZART, are all pretty much in agreement with each other, so that helps us decide which bands are Avant-Prog and which are not.To answer the initial question, however, my belief is that Rock In Opposition should only incorporate 8 bands (the original 5, plus the 3 that joined later). There are other related RIO bands, like Present and the offshoots of Samla Mammas Manna, but I am still undecided as to if they're RIO or not. This is what we need to decide on as a team.I hope this helps!
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Thanks alot! Yes it does, I now have a good understanding, I had always wondered about how things like that were decided.
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TheProgMonster
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Joined: February 09 2007
Location: United States
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Points: 44
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 20:45 |
SolariS wrote:
I've heard of bands today that consider themselves "Rock against rock". Sleepytime Gorilla Museum is one for example. Sorta complicates things huh?

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"Rock-against-rock", Thats actually a new movement formed by them(its proven now). I just got their new album a couple a days ago and there is a sticker that says "Rock-against-Rock Pioneers" on it(not really proof but what the hey).
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Points: 89372
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 21:43 |
rileydog22 wrote:
Geck0 wrote:
The ZART has been around for a while now, but only now are we really concerned about sorting the whole thing out. We feel the definition needs rewriting and that is what we plan to do. It's a slow process, but hopefully we'll have it done sometime soon. We're still discussing everything as a team, especially which bands come under which category of Avant-Prog (which RIO is).
We of course are still adding bands too, despite the lack of a proper definition. The members of the ZART, are all pretty much in agreement with each other, so that helps us decide which bands are Avant-Prog and which are not.
To answer the initial question, however, my belief is that Rock In Opposition should only incorporate 8 bands (the original 5, plus the 3 that joined later). There are other related RIO bands, like Present and the offshoots of Samla Mammas Manna, but I am still undecided as to if they're RIO or not. This is what we need to decide on as a team.
I hope this helps!
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The Samla offshoots are undoubtedly RIO; Samla had evolved to Zamla about a year before the first RIO festival, so technically it's SAMLA, not Zamla, that is arguably not RIO.
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Yes, you're correct, my mistake, ZMM were the RIO pioneers. I guess SMM are RIO then! How about Albert Marcoeur though? He's proto-RIO, kind of...
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rileydog22
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Joined: August 24 2005
Location: New Jersey
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 21:46 |
I'm not familiar with his work. What does he sound like?
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 21:49 |
I've yet to hear him myself, but his debut album was released in 1974. Apparently he sounds sometimes like Aksak Maboul and Zappa. Once I've heard his albums, I'll let you know more fully.
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rileydog22
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Joined: August 24 2005
Location: New Jersey
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 22:28 |
Damn, there seems to be almost no information on the guy whatsoever on the internet. None in english, anyways. Perhaps the RIO Drop-In guys will be able to help....
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VanderGraafKommandöh
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Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 22:37 |
Oh, I have some of his albums, I just haven't heard them yet. All in good time!
Claire (listennow801) knows more, I believe.
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rileydog22
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Joined: August 24 2005
Location: New Jersey
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 22:38 |
Geck0 wrote:
Oh, I have some of his albums, I just haven't heard them yet. All in good time!
Claire (listennow801) knows more, I believe.
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Oh, that's right. I forgot that you were in the unfortunate position of having piles and piles of albums you haven't listened to yet.
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VanderGraafKommandöh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: July 04 2005
Location: Malaria
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Posted: June 03 2007 at 22:43 |
Well, unfortunate and fortunate. I'm slowly getting through them!
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