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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2007 at 01:06
Daphnis et Chloe suites comes to mind. (Ravel). Also, check out Luciano Berio for some RIO aproach, and Ligetti for something like acoustic Tangerine Dream (early days),


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2007 at 01:14
I like a lot of minimalism, including John Adams (Short Ride in a Fast Machine) and Arvo Part (Spiegel Im Spiegel).  Umm theres a lot of other good stuff, that's just what comes to mind at the moment. 

There's also this one good song called something like Blue Shades I believe that's a great jazzy piece for a wind ensamble.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2007 at 01:21
Good classical music, what's that called? Pleonasm?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2007 at 02:42
Originally posted by asimplemistake asimplemistake wrote:

I like a lot of minimalism, including John Adams (Short Ride in a Fast Machine) and Arvo Part (Spiegel Im Spiegel).  Umm theres a lot of other good stuff, that's just what comes to mind at the moment. 

 
...Steve Reich´s ´Music For 18 Musicians´ comes to mind... 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2007 at 07:16
can I have good recmodations about good conterto groosos, I like them...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 06:01
Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

no-one mentioned Gustav Mahler so far, so I will: his symphonies (especially the 9th), his "Kindertotenlieder", his "Lied von der Erde", the "Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen"; all of these are highly recommended.

another one that hasn't been mentioned: Robert Schumann. here I recommend his symphonies (especially his 3rd, the "Rheinische"), his "Dichterliebe" (a song cycle based on the lyrics of German poet Heinrich Heine), his a-minor piano concerto and "Manfred", a melodram based on the lyrics of Lord Byron. and since I am just listening to them on the radio: his 3 romances for clarinet and piano.

last but not least: Franz Schubert. here I recommend "Die Winterreise", a song cycle (try to get the version with Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau singing), his trout quintet, the string quartet Nr. 14 ("Death and the Maiden"), "Die schöne Müllerin" (another song cycle), his "unfinished" symphony in B-minor and his C-Major symphony (by today's usual way of counting his 8th; there was and is a bit of confusion and complication about counting his symphonies) and his many, many Lieder (over 600)


As you mentioned Schumann, his piece "Erlkonig",based on the poem by Goethe is one i find very enjoyable.
Also, if you are to look into Robert Schumann, i recommend looking into some of his wife Clara's work. She too was an excellent pianist, perhaps even better than her husband.

are you sure you mean the "Erlkönig" by Schumann? many composers set that poem into notes; there are versions by Carl Loewe, Johann Friedrich Reichardt, Carl Friedrich Zelter, Robert Schumann, and Hugo Wolf. the most popular version though is by Franz Schubert, and somehow I have the feeling you mean this version, because it surely grips you with its galloping rhythm. and yes, Clara Schumann née Wieck should definitely be looked into


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 06:06
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.


You might say that Glass was "de-composing" even before he STARTED.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 07:36

I like good piano concertoes, like the ones by Grieg and Schumann, and Rachmaninov's second.

Symphonies: I like Dvorak's 9th a lot, Beethoven's 5th and Mahlers 1st.
 
In my piano lessons I played a lot of Beethoven, Bach and Mozart piano pieces: always a good way to master the piano.
 
Personally I like national music a lot: I mean classical music with a folk music twist, like Brahms' Hungarian Dances, Rimski-Korsakov's Sheherazade and Grieg's Peer Gynt suites.
 
I like impressionist music as well, Debussy and Ravel, and  I also like mixtures of classical music with jazz, like George Gershwin did.
 
On top of it all, I like some modern classical music, bits and pieces from Philip Glass' works (especially piano versions of themes from Einstein On The Beach, and some parts of Akhnaten and Koyaanisqatsi). John Adams and Arvo Pärt fascinate me as well.
 
But there's much more that I like.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 07:53
Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

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John Dowland's songs for lute
 
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Dowland is fantastic, and if you like that sort of music, I'd recommend "Ancient Airs and Dances" (essentially a more authentic interpretation of Resphigi's arrangements) by the brilliant lutenist Paul O'Dette. It also features the incredible talents and most amazing name of Rogers Covey-Crump, who is one of my favourite counter-tenors.
 
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/details/55146.asp
 
For those not familiar with Dowland, here's a treasure trove; http://www.classiccat.net/dowland_j/index.htm
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 09:11
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.


You might say that Glass was "de-composing" even before he STARTED.


Huh, minimalists don't compose they decompose, interesting.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 09:20
Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Good classical music, what's that called? Pleonasm?


Not really, have you forgotten about Mozart?

teasing somewhat

Mahler has already been mentioned, but Mahler's Fifth hasn't. Also Felix Mendelssohn, a man of heavy musical talent and heavier musical opinions (look up his take on Beethoven's Ninth!)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 09:27
Originally posted by Hirgwath Hirgwath wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.


Glass's "Pruitt Igoe" is one of my favorite classical pieces ever. I need to see Koyaanisqatsi.


That's actually part of a trilogy of movies that include Powaqqatsi and Naqoyquatsi.  All really cool videos.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 09:30
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.


You might say that Glass was "de-composing" even before he STARTED.


Ouch! But even though I like Glass somewhat, that is funny .
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 10:44
Originally posted by proger proger wrote:

I love also symphonys lihe "merkury" symphony by hyden.
(sorrey about the mistakes...)


Very happy to hear that! Haydn is my favourite symphonic composer of all time. A few dozen of his symphonies sound a little formulaic, but since he wrote more than a hundred, that's no problem at all! I particularly enjoy the so-called "Sturm und Drang" symphonies, which usually include the 'Mercury' symphony, the 'Fire' symphony etc. (and once again there's an excellent 6-CD bargain box set by Trevor Pinnock), and the six 'Paris' symphonies: truly life-enhancing stuff!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 10:50
Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

So my question: with which Bartok String Quartet should I start?


I'm afraid I don't know the Bartok quartets (they're "on my list") but they're all supposed to be masterpieces, and they fit on two CDs, so I guess you can't go wrong...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 12:14
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

So my question: with which Bartok String Quartet should I start?


I'm afraid I don't know the Bartok quartets (they're "on my list") but they're all supposed to be masterpieces, and they fit on two CDs, so I guess you can't go wrong...


You guys check my earlier post on the Bartok quartets where I map out the movements that are "Frippish" for those wanting to trace the Bartok influence. Number 4 is my favorite and full of passages that inspired Fripp and others.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 12:17
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

Originally posted by Dick Heath Dick Heath wrote:

Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

If you're into King Crimson or Henry Cow, you'll probably enjoy Stravinsky and Bartok. If you like ambient music, try Toru Takemitsu's DREAM/WINDOW, TREE LINE and IN AN AUTUMN GARDEN...

 

Checking out the liner notes of  the first two East Of Eden albums last night and noted one tune was annotated: "Based on a Bartok string quartet". I've heard the connection between Bartok and KC made a number of times. So my question: with which Bartok String Quartet should I start?


Just buzzed through some Bartok looking for the Crimson parts, I have been curious about this too as Fripp said his aim was to mix Chuck Berry with Bartok.

The 5th movement of quartet number 4 sounds like Fripp himself. The 4th and 2nd movements are close too.
Also 3rd movement of the 6th quartet
2nd movement of No 2.
Some of the other records have less clear track divisions but I would say opening and closing of number 5 and apprx. 2nd movement No 3.



Here it is. Four is great, a lot of variation between the movements, the 2nd movement is very strange. The rockin parts really rock in 5/4.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2007 at 21:52


This is becoming a favourite. Kronos Quartet with Franghiz Ali-Zadeh: Mugam Sayagi.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 16 2007 at 21:54

This is another great one
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