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darksideof
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 13:17 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
I had read that some of the band members weren't happy with James LaBrie's vocals just prior to Octavarium for whatever reason. With the release of the new Dream Theater album, there is an instrumental only CD available. I think it is kinds of ridiculous since the album is mostly instrumental as it is. Then it had crossed my mind that maybe DT might be looking for a new singer . It sounds a little far fetched, but you never know. |
that is soo odd! and crazy.
I think Labrie's singing is getting better and better, since Metropolis. I think he used to scream on the early DT albums now he is singing not yelling.  and why would DT would be looking for a new singer? to sing labrie tunes? that is insane.! Unless it is Labrie that quit! 
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SFranke
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 13:37 |
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ why use a strong word like "hate" then, if you even like some of their works? Of course you can say (almost) anything you want about them, I just find it a bit strange.
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Despite the stuff of theirs I like, on the net, I just find them utterly repugnant. Also I am a bit disappointed I am unable to share in the orgasmic pleasure the fans seem to derive from the band. So really I hate the fact that I don't love the band. No sl*g against the fans, of course; I personally refer to attending Rush concerts as pilgrimages.
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sleeper
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 13:47 |
UMUR wrote:
LaBrie sounded great on Images & Words and Awake because the song lines were outstanding and fit his voice perfectly. Iīve always felt that it was the songlines that werenīt as good on later albums and not problems with James voice. This only counts for studio work though because he absolutely sucks live. Saw Dream Theater on both the Awake and the Falling Into Infinity tours and he sounded strained and uncomfortable. He dragged the overall performance down quite a bit IMO. Havenīt bothered to see them since then though. He might have bettered his performance? |
LaBrie ruptured his vocal chords on either the Images and Words or Awake tour (cant remember which and it was because of food poisoning). His vocal performance of the last 10 years are far better than that of Falling Into Infinity.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: June 04 2009 at 13:50 |
sleeper wrote:
UMUR wrote:
LaBrie sounded great on Images & Words and Awake because the song lines were outstanding and fit his voice perfectly. Iīve always felt that it was the songlines that werenīt as good on later albums and not problems with James voice. This only counts for studio work though because he absolutely sucks live. Saw Dream Theater on both the Awake and the Falling Into Infinity tours and he sounded strained and uncomfortable. He dragged the overall performance down quite a bit IMO. Havenīt bothered to see them since then though. He might have bettered his performance? |
LaBrie ruptured his vocal chords on either the Images and Words or Awake tour (cant remember which and it was because of food poisoning). His vocal performance of the last 10 years are far better than that of Falling Into Infinity.
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In all honesty, I can't tell. He sounds the same as he ever did. One thing is for sure, he can't sing that metal type stuff. As a matter of fact, that band can't really play it that well either. They need to stick to Prog.
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topofsm
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Posted: June 05 2009 at 02:05 |
sleeper wrote:
UMUR wrote:
LaBrie sounded great on Images & Words and Awake because the song lines were outstanding and fit his voice perfectly. Iīve always felt that it was the songlines that werenīt as good on later albums and not problems with James voice. This only counts for studio work though because he absolutely sucks live. Saw Dream Theater on both the Awake and the Falling Into Infinity tours and he sounded strained and uncomfortable. He dragged the overall performance down quite a bit IMO. Havenīt bothered to see them since then though. He might have bettered his performance? |
LaBrie ruptured his vocal chords on either the Images and Words or Awake tour (cant remember which and it was because of food poisoning). His vocal performance of the last 10 years are far better than that of Falling Into Infinity.
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I believe that it was after Awake was released, so I think it was the Awake tour.
In any event, and not in response to you UMUR, Labrie's voice is pretty much fully functional, though I still think it's grating. Listening to the latest live recordings as in Chaos in Motion is pretty torturous for me. For some reason Labrie seems to feel he has to add a sh*tload of vibrato to the tone of his voice when he needs to belt out his higher notes. Listen to a recording of "Blind Faith", especially in the chorus sections, in Chaos in Motion and see what I mean.
However, the rest of his comrades in DT certainly aren't letting him go anytime soon.
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moshkito
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Posted: June 08 2009 at 09:10 |
Hi,
Ohhh btw ... the rumor is that LaBrie is gone ... and that Dream Theater is getting Dennis De Young to lead sing their stuff ...
Thought you might like to know this ...
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sleeper
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Posted: June 08 2009 at 13:12 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
sleeper wrote:
UMUR wrote:
LaBrie sounded great on Images & Words and Awake because the song lines were outstanding and fit his voice perfectly. Iīve always felt that it was the songlines that werenīt as good on later albums and not problems with James voice. This only counts for studio work though because he absolutely sucks live. Saw Dream Theater on both the Awake and the Falling Into Infinity tours and he sounded strained and uncomfortable. He dragged the overall performance down quite a bit IMO. Havenīt bothered to see them since then though. He might have bettered his performance? |
LaBrie ruptured his vocal chords on either the Images and Words or Awake tour (cant remember which and it was because of food poisoning). His vocal performance of the last 10 years are far better than that of Falling Into Infinity.
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In all honesty, I can't tell. He sounds the same as he ever did. One thing is for sure, he can't sing that metal type stuff. As a matter of fact, that band can't really play it that well either. They need to stick to Prog. |
Didnt matter too much in the studio as it can be fixed up, but his voice really wasnt any good live at that time.
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crimhead
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Posted: June 08 2009 at 13:35 |
moshkito wrote:
Hi,
Ohhh btw ... the rumor is that LaBrie is gone ... and that Dream Theater is getting Dennis De Young to lead sing their stuff ...
Thought you might like to know this ... |
Well Dennis does need the work since he lost that Styx gig.
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Michelle1PA
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Posted: July 08 2009 at 11:09 |
The T wrote:
Mr ProgFreak wrote:
^ why would someone buy 6 or more albums of a band that he hates?
Nah, I'm not buying that.
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Oh buy it. I own all 4 Mars Volta albums and probably will buy the fifth as a song is titled after a volcano in my country. So i will end with 5 cds of a band I almost hate  (with the exception of the first album). It's just that sometimes you try hard, and think that the next album will be the one you'll like. Alas, it doesn't happen.
Regarding the thread, I would actually have serious problems digesting DT without LaBrie.
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That's not for me. The most I'll have of any band I don't like is two. I'll try something once and give it a second chance, if the second chance doesn't pan out, I'm done. I'm still open to more music by said band, and if what I hear online convinces me otherwise, sure I'll go for it again. Using your own Mars Volta comparison; their EP Concertina intruiged me. I love De-Loused in the Comatorium so I purchased Amputechture when that was released and I couldn't stand it (though I will give it another go in the future) I already knew I didn't like Frances the Mute. So I think they were a two-trick pony for me.
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Lodij van der Graaf
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 05:43 |
Just what kinda voice Dream Theater will get if they kicks James out?
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Proggy Pogo
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 07:19 |
I hope not, I think LaBrie is a great singer. I was listening to SFAM in the car this morning and thinking how great his vocals are, especially on 'Home'.
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Lodij van der Graaf
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 08:22 |
Yess, "Home" saw great vocal performance by James LaBrie... Another one is in "Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence"
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Tzibo
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 13:24 |
Hunh, I like LaBrie's voice and I think that it's a big part of Dream Theater. You know, Myung is an amazing bassist technically, but I probably wouldn't notice if he was changed for someone else who has the same technical skills. I don't know if the same would go for Petrucci and Portnoy (hm... I don't know? Maybe not?) but for LaBrie - no way. He has a distinct voice and when so many people hate his voice it can't be anything but true. I, for one, love his voice. :O So I don't hope he will be changed...
Greg W wrote:
Seriously, Labrie did a solid job on Human Equation. With DT, he
is happy singing in that old hair spray metal style of voice which is
extremely annoying. He has proven, he is quite capable of singing in a
more modern style, so why does he still sing with that cliched 80's
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Whhaaaat? I just listened to Human Equation a few days ago and I must say that I was disappointed to his performance! Sure, I could stand it but it couldn't stand out from the group. (Comparing to, for example, Marcela Bovio. A beautiful voice, that one <3) I would say that it was one of his worst performances (from what I've heard) and then again, Black Clouds & Silver Linings one of his best performances. But of course this is just my opinion. :P
Edited by Tzibo - July 23 2009 at 06:25
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hirszu
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 14:00 |
Well, LaBrie's vocal condtition changes. Sometimes he starts yelling. It happens when the vocal part he sings is just too high for him. Just listen to "I Walk Beside You" from Score DVD. But people who have seen recent concerts say that it's better than on previous tours and his form is perfect now! I'm waiting for Theater's show in Poland, we'll see :)
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BLITZKRIEG
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 14:10 |
Labrie is a good vocalist. Live, he is just average. His studio work is awesome. One of his best performances is Another Day.
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 14:18 |
I think it's time for LaBrie to go solo and break from the 80's glam style. After BC&SL, it's evident that DT can not grow anymore. Besides, if they took a ten year hiatus, the reunion tour would be huge.
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JLocke
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Posted: July 21 2009 at 14:30 |
StyLaZyn wrote:
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DT is actually truly MP/JP/JM . . .
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Actually, DT is MP, and that's it. Everything starts and ends with him. He's very controlling on what he does or doesn't like in the band. If he would someday decide to get a new vocalist, it wouldn't matter if the other guys still wanted to keep LaBrie; he would still get replaced. Because what Portnoy says goes. Now having said that, LaBrie is one of my favorite vocalists, and I would be quite upset if he were replaced. I realize that his vocal rupture had some negative effect on his range, but he is still more capable than most vocalists his age despite that incident. I realize a lot of people would be overjoyed if James got kicked out, but honestly, I have never understood why so many people hate him as a singer. I think he's bloody great. Here is the reason I oersonally don't think LaBrie is getting replaced; the guys in DT had a hell of a time finding a singer the first time around. Mike said that it was one of the most frustrating periods they ever went through. I honestly don't think they would want to go through that again, especially now that they are beginning to regain their popularity a bit. Looking for a new singer now would just delay things.
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moshkito
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Posted: July 22 2009 at 07:40 |
M@X wrote:
Maybe you are right or maybe not because as you may not know that PORCUPINE TREE released an intrumental version of "Fear of a Blank Planet".
So maybe it's just a new market trend to improve the quality and content of CD-package !
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I thought it was Steven Wilson's version for the Karaoke crowd! ... I mean ... why not?
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StyLaZyn
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Posted: July 22 2009 at 08:37 |
moshkito wrote:
M@X wrote:
Maybe you are right or maybe not because as you may not know that PORCUPINE TREE released an intrumental version of "Fear of a Blank Planet".
So maybe it's just a new market trend to improve the quality and content of CD-package !
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I thought it was Steven Wilson's version for the Karaoke crowd! ... I mean ... why not?
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Let's not forget something. SW is well known for his 5.1 mixes focusing on the music aspect. On the other hand, DT is not.
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Silly
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Posted: July 22 2009 at 10:03 |
I read on the DT website that the purpose of the instrumental version of the new album was so you could use it with software to isolate the individual tracks to either do your own mix of the album or maybe to learn the indivdual instrument parts properlly. Seeing as a hell of alot of DT fans play instruments and aspire to play the songs, it makes sense to me. (?)
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