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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 16:21
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


 while it isn't for the other two because they pretty much gave up on melody, rhythm and harmony,


Now that's pretty much 100% bullsh*t. Just because the melodies, rhythms and harmonies aren't something traditional that mainstream music fans can easily associate with doesn't mean they aren't there


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 16:19

I don't know the music of any of those bands to give a serious opinion, but my first impression is that the post-metal tag is very fitting for Khanate, while it isn't for the other two because they pretty much gave up on melody, rhythm and harmony, which are still important elements in post-metal.

That's what genres will do for you. Adhere to them and you can be labeled 'Prog' (post-metal), challenge the genre and you'll get another label (like 'drone') and you're out Tongue

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 15:05
Originally posted by Bonnek Bonnek wrote:


Has been rejected quite some time ago already.

So I can't tell you the reasoning the team followed here, but listening to the samples I hear an experimental doom/stoner/drone band, very eager to experiment, but just like Sun o))) their experimentation isn't 'musical' or 'Prog' enough to fall within the parameters of the Experimental/Post-Metal definitions.

I admit this gives food for debate though, I wouldn't call Eno or Bass Communion very 'musical' or 'Prog' neither and still they are on PA.


Indeed-truthfully, the impetus for this submission was noticing that Khanate were listed on the site but not Sunn 0)) or Boris. I would consider Khanate FAR less progressive than either of those bands. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 11:05

Has been rejected quite some time ago already.

So I can't tell you the reasoning the team followed here, but listening to the samples I hear an experimental doom/stoner/drone band, very eager to experiment, but just like Sun o))) their experimentation isn't 'musical' or 'Prog' enough to fall within the parameters of the Experimental/Post-Metal definitions.

I admit this gives food for debate though, I wouldn't call Eno or Bass Communion very 'musical' or 'Prog' neither and still they are on PA.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 10:33
They were evaluated already by the metal team, but were unanimously rejected. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 02:45
I saw them live with Red Sparrowes a while back, and I would support this.  Not real likely to happen, though
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 23 2011 at 01:44
I'd like to suggest Japanese band Boris for either RIO/Avant-prog or Experimental/post-metal, or even prog related. Their albums from their early years lean extraordinarily towards the experimental side of rock-Absolutego, Amplifier Worship, Flood and Feedbacker are all composed of one massive, epic song that stays consistent in structure but shifts and piles melodies on top of each other as time goes on. They've also collaborated with noted experimental artists Keji Haino and Merzbow, and have a tendency to shift styles every other album: Smile is a relatively straightforward noise/stoner doom album, but it was followed immediately by Cloud Chamber, a collaboration with Michio Kurihara that can more aptly be described as a psychedelic rock album with classical overtones!

Anyway, here are a few Boris tracks from across their strange, prolific career, just to show you the vast multitude of styles they play in and show off their avant-garde nature:








Since Boris has over 30 full length releases including live albums and collaborations(and collaborative live albums) it's tough to condense their sound, but I think I've provided a good cross section. They may not be prog in the strictest definition of the word, but they embody the progressive spirit right down to its roots, and I've seen bands added here before for just that reason!

Whether you decide to include them or not, thanks a ton for considering them. 
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