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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 13:17
Originally posted by Henry Plainview Henry Plainview wrote:

Originally posted by James James wrote:

The only problem I've kind of noticed is a lot of nice and lovely people saying they'd quite happily bonk some of these guys and girls over the head... I realise they don't want to see their towns and cities burning and their precious shops looted but isn't being a vigilante the wrong way to go about things?

I think it's mostly talk though.  I've not heard of many vigilantes with the recent troubles.
 
There have been several groups of Shopkeepers trying to protect their property.  As you know three were killed.  There are more saying they will be out tonight including church groups.

What is the better alternative? Sit there helplessly while someone steals your stuff, knowing that the police will never be able to recover it and are far too busy to prevent it? "Vigilantes" are usually bad, but you have a right to defend yourself and your property.
 
Originally posted by lazland lazland wrote:

 Actually, cricket IS a very suitable and character forming activity for the youth of today.

I'm sorry, but I fail to understand the point you are makingConfused

I think he was saying telling people to play cricket is useless.
 
This is obviously the thoughts of a lunatic.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 13:19
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

From what I read some people actually advocate the UK becoming a full police state.



I'm sure many Americans do too.

Most people don't understand what the term 'police state' means.

Typically, police states come about over a time, in slow incremental steps. So slow in fact that most people don't join the dots, and realise what's happening, until it's too late. Those who question the creep are 'conspiracy theorists' and potential terrorists. Our leaders learn from history, but most people don't. In my opinion...
South Africa was a police state for many many years, certainly did not creep up on 30 plus million oppressed people...so not advocating that just zero tolerance for maruading ingrates
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 13:50

Slightly change of topic within the topic:

The shops in the High Streets got looted and burnt out. What happens next ? The businesses will not return to an area which is co-inhabitated with gangs and these looters. What's the alternative ? Off course; this medium. The internet. Online retailing. 

You cannot be beaten up, burnt out and looted online if you take some precautions. These precautions something your bank will help you with. The "office rental space" is off course cheaper online than in a High Street. Traumatised shop owners will think twice about returning to the High Street, but will probably not so by moving online.

The remaining shops are the small family owned shops who retails booze, food and other convenience goods + the take aways and the coffee shops. The result is derilict urban deserts which exclude more and more people from a good life. The use of towns and cities has just been eroded. The biggest town in England is now www.amazon.co.uk



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 14:02
^ problem is we becomne more and more isolated within portals....quite sad
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 15:08

Africa to send troops, food parcels to UK as riots spread

ETHIOPIA. The African Union today adopted a unilateral resolution to deploy army troops and care packages to England as looting and violence spread from London to other major cities. Spokesperson Charity Khumalo said “We can no longer stand by while these savages tear themselves apart.”

The AU, meeting today in an emergency session to discuss the ongoing rioting in the UK, has declared that they will do “everything in their power to help bring civilisation to England”.

“It’s just so sad, you know?” said Khumalo, speaking from the organisation’s HQ in Addis Ababa. “Sitting here and watching them on TV while their society implodes. We cannot in good conscience remain idle and let it happen.”

The AU has announced a range of initiatives that Africans can get involved with to help alleviate the misery of the English.

“For instance, we have launched an ‘Adopt an English child’ programme,” Khumalo explained, showing journalists brochures featuring the faces of English kids. “If you donate a mere R50 a month, you can see to it that sweet little Johnny from Peckham receives a basic education, a pack of condoms and a pair of pimpin’ Nikes.”

Khumalo also said that the AU would be parachuting in dentists along with army troops as part of a ‘Feel better about yourselves, Brits!’ initiative.

“You can understand why they’re turning on each other,” the spokesperson told journalists. “You look in the mirror and you see teeth untouched by modern dentistry. It’s heartbreaking enough to make anyone put a brick through a Starbucks.”

The organisation also plans to air-drop care packages on major UK cities.

“Vegetables, mainly,” Khumalo confirmed. “We’re sending them vegetables and toothpaste.”

The AU’s flagship event, however, will be a star-studded rock concert to be held in Johannesburg, with all proceeds going towards the establishment of mobile libraries around the UK. Artists ranging from Mafikizolo to Steve Hofmeyr have pledged to perform at the show.

“As a humanitarian, it’s the least I can do,” Hofmeyr said yesterday. “I look at those photos of the adorable little beasts knifing each other in fights over looted X-Boxes and I want to hug them and give them a nice hot cup of Milo.”

Meanwhile, the week’s events have seen terrified South Africans in London and Manchester packing their bags for home.

“This country is going to the dogs, dude,” said Werner du Preez, a gap-year student from Johannesburg. “I’ve been offered a nice little two-bedroom place in Hillbrow where I can feel safe again.”

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 15:20

(reacting delirious with joy to the post and the announced help above)

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(please include several thousand dingy boats too. We are about to be flooded out)



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 15:21
NATO to bomb threat to Spain if not please demonstrators and then realize that Spain is in NATO
Empire Press - Fri, 20/05/2011 - 14:12.

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NATO issued a strong statement against Spain, demanding that "terrible change the monarchy with a democratic republic," as required by thousands of protesters have focused on various places in the country, and hours later issued another apology for a "inadvertent error that made them go to an active member in terms inappropriate. "

A NATO spokesman, Maj. Michael Johnson said it's partly your fault for being unable to remember where I had seen the Plaza del Sol "A group of soldiers who are actively making decisions regarding various bombings around the world the square and we saw looked familiar but could not identify it at the time. it turned out to Spain, and to revise the charter of NATO, we verify that is a member. Our sincere apologies to King Juan Carlos, "said Johnson.

The original release stated that apply the full weight of international law, while the bombing would be prepared from various military bases in Europe that paradoxically included some Spanish bases.

Is expected in the coming hours the Spanish government suppress the concentrations in the various places of the country, by now you know they will not be bombed, at least for NATO.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 15:29
^^^ Classic....spread th xbox love...Yeah send the looters to Hillbrow, that will sort them out quick enough.....the colonials return to seize assets in Africa... I see a theme repeating itself, pillage and plunder, pillage and plunder. They had good teachers!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 10 2011 at 20:10
France will soon begin supplying arms to the English rebels so they can continue their struggle against the regime of Cameron (with bats not accomplish much). Also, the Americans sent their advisers to instruct the English rebels in the use of methods of urban warfare and fighting Al-Qaeda up soon to the rebel capital, Birmingham.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 01:52

That would be historically ironic. David Cameron is from a family with a history of violent rebellion against the English rulers. David Cameron himself lead a rebellion against the Conservative party and won. Hence his premiership.

Somehow; David Cameron has been very eager to tone down his family's rebellious past. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:04
As well as his actions in the Bullingdon Club with Boris Johnson.  Setting fire to toilets, smoking marijuana, pulling peoples trousers down?

I'm sure more went on too.

To quote:

"We got drunk, trashed the Ritz & then went down Piccadilly to loot a few items from Fortnums"

Boris Johnson, Bullingdon Club 1986

"We smashed the place up and Boris set fire to the toilets."

David Cameron, June 1986 while a member of the Bullingdon Club.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 09:51
This should all be of no surprise. This is what happens when a society for decades pays people to be lazy, unmotivated and worthless louts. Same thing happening here as well. The welfare state is finally reeping it's sewn.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:08
Originally posted by James James wrote:

As well as his actions in the Bullingdon Club with Boris Johnson.  Setting fire to toilets, smoking marijuana, pulling peoples trousers down?

I'm sure more went on too.

To quote:

"We got drunk, trashed the Ritz & then went down Piccadilly to loot a few items from Fortnums"

Boris Johnson, Bullingdon Club 1986

"We smashed the place up and Boris set fire to the toilets."

David Cameron, June 1986 while a member of the Bullingdon Club.

.......... or even far worse than that: Going to the Arctic Oceans and report back to the Conservatives via Youtube videos and video links that there is a global warming on and the polar bears is having a torrid time due to capitalism. That Sir, is an earthquake to 7.9 on the political earthquakes scale. And that in a party who still think global warming is a communist plot. 

A large chunk in that party feels that David Cameron is not conservative by political convictions or in any sense of the word. Many of his politics is certainly not conservative. But they put up with him because he is the most popular chap they got and the only thing between them and oblivion.   

 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:18
Errr what?  He's very conservative.  Yes many of his cronies maybe more so but he's still a horrible tory with terrible political ideas.

Theresa May will be the next Tory leader when  the Conservatives get destroyed at the General Election.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:26
Far less conservative than both Gordon Brown and Tony Blair ever was. Check this troika's policies and don't believe in myths. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:35
That's quite simply rubbish, Torodd.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 10:51

Check the facts James. Smile

End of the matter.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 11:00
I do check the facts.  In fact, I don't just look at the propaganda you read.

Tony Blair was not my favourite Labour PM.  He made a lot of mistakes and I completely dislike him for going into an illegal war.

He was no way more right-wing than Cameron though.

As for Brown, you're having a laugh there... he was nowhere near right-wing.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 11:17
Originally posted by James James wrote:

I do check the facts.  In fact, I don't just look at the propaganda you read.

Tony Blair was not my favourite Labour PM.  He made a lot of mistakes and I completely dislike him for going into an illegal war.

He was no way more right-wing than Cameron though.

As for Brown, you're having a laugh there... he was nowhere near right-wing.

It is a bit difficult to debate when you don't know the meaning of the words you use. Neither do you know my sources. So everything you have written about me and my views is assumptions, prejudice and dishonest dirt cheap personal attacks. That is all you got going for you.  

Not that it would interest you, but you can get facts from neutral sources. The type of sources you can use too. It is called academia and scientific research. They are there and available to you. Get real & use them. 

   




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2011 at 11:23
Thanks for that, Torodd.

I am watching BBC Parliament and I often watch parliamentary debate.  I don't just use anti-right sources either.  I actually watch and read a varying amount of sources.

I'm not blinkered.  You're accusing me of the same things I apparently am accusing you of -- isn't that a bit silly?


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