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    Posted: August 11 2012 at 20:48

What was the First Prog Punk Band? Was it Etron Fou Leloublan, The Art Bears, or This Heat?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 20:56
The Cardiacs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 20:57
Originally posted by CPicard CPicard wrote:

The Cardiacs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 21:10
But there also were Punishment of Luxury, Spizz Energi or Oingo Boingo at the same times.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 21:29
Alice Cooper should get a vote....their first LP, "Pretties For You," was signed to Frank Zappa's "Straight" label.  

"The first Alice Cooper album is a real oddity baring few signs of what was to come. Showing the obvious influence of both Syd Barrett's Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa (on who's label it was orginally released) it shows a band still finding its legs but there are still some great tracks on offer. 'Reflected' later became 'Elected' and was a huge hit in 1972, and 'Fields Of Regret' and 'Levity Ball' also show signs of what is to come. Not exactly essential, but certainly not as band as some people claim. Dennis Dunaway still notes this as his favourite Alice Cooper record." 



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 21:50
None of the Bands I mentioned are Punk?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 22:26
Nope.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 22:36
Are you sure? Wikipedia says they are Punk.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 22:44
Nomeansno deserves a mention here.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 22:48
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

Are you sure? Wikipedia says they are Punk.


You can never trust the Wikipedia genre classifications.  I've seen some that are quite a stretch.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 22:53
Could you give me some examples?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 23:01
^30 Seconds to Mars -progressive metal
Spock's Beard - progressive metal
System of a Down - progressive rock
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 11 2012 at 23:02
Early Roxy Music the first 2 albums had an edge to them and were huge influence on the emerging Brit punk scene. Bob Calvert most certainly was a prog-punkster, his solo material particularly. The first 3 Ultravox albums also would be in there, close to Magazine's output.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2012 at 00:06
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

^30 Seconds to Mars -progressive metal
Spock's Beard - progressive metal
System of a Down - progressive rock
They also classify Angels & Airwaves as neo-prog.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2012 at 00:16
Originally posted by Ambient Hurricanes Ambient Hurricanes wrote:

^30 Seconds to Mars -progressive metal
Spock's Beard - progressive metal
System of a Down - progressive rock

LOL you weren't joking! Good ol' Wikipedia.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2012 at 00:16
I haven't heard the Cardiacs, but The Damned went prog (or art rock, whichever you will) about halfway into their career.  The Dickies went arty prog, too, but they kept the punk vocals alongside the ripping heavy Hammond organ.  Check out their track, "Caligula".  Prog punk at its finest!  Tongue  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2012 at 00:52
Originally posted by tszirmay tszirmay wrote:

Early Roxy Music the first 2 albums had an edge to them and were huge influence on the emerging Brit punk scene. Bob Calvert most certainly was a prog-punkster, his solo material particularly. The first 3 Ultravox albums also would be in there, close to Magazine's output.


I totally agree!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2012 at 02:53

Roxy Music is a good shout although I would probably include them under 'art rock'.

Always thought this was very proggy although Squeeze were probably not really 'punk' just happened to come along at the that time
 
The Stranglers were the first proper prog punk band imo
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2012 at 06:37
Originally posted by Jonathan Jonathan wrote:

None of the Bands I mentioned are Punk?

Not so sure about Art Bears or This Heat but Etron Fou Leloublan is definitely one of the first bands to mix prog and punk.




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Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 12 2012 at 08:18
Almost forgot the Subhumans.  While I wouldn't call them a prog punk band, they took an admirable stab at prog rock on their album "From the Cradle to the Grave" in 1984.  The first side was a string of 9 short-to-medium length songs that segued together, and the second side was a single 17 minute multi-part suite.  Probably my favorite punk album of all time. 
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