Is Robert Fripp Overrated?

Originally posted by Svetonio Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112 Yes or No? No.   After all, he saved progressive rock genre with Discipline the album.

he didn't save prog rock with Discipline, remember the band was on hiatus from 75-80 I 'd argue that Rush saved prog rock when others were either going extinct or "selling out" with 2112-Moving Pictures then they came back with Discipline, all you guys are acting as if Fripp is god or something, I know I'm gonna hear about it from someone

 

Which, in so many ways, shows how well folks mis-interpret Robert Fripp!

 

It's not a "style" ... it's an "expression" ... and how you color/paint/add/subtract/something to color what you mean ... with your instrument.

 

I call this "theater of the instrument" ... something that is hard to fathom and understand, which has a LOT less to do with music itslef, than it does with how you felt at the time!

 

Look at it this way ... do you really think that Jimi Hendrix plays with his teeth, and then sets his guitar on fire, because of all the notes on the staff, or his musical knowledge? ... NOOOOO ... it's because it was an expression that fit the time and place and what was all around him!

 

You can NOT, teach that ... it has to be something that you FEEL, and you learn for yourself how to express it! ... and this is the problem with a lot of "prog" and "copy" music, when all it is is ... sounding the same, with a different voice, and a different name on the guitar!

 

Look at Robert's guitar work in all the pieces in ITCOTCK ... and how different they all are ... and not even close to each other at all ... and that is something that most guitarists are afraid to do ... and lose track of the band or the music ... and Robert made sure that his band could do something like this ... that featured "expression" rather than anything else ... and of course ... a few years later we think it is heavenly ... and he is still studied ... but then, what great composer the last 500 years has not been studied for his great talent and help in defining music?

 

Omar, could use learning that liking Robert is one thing ... playing it ... is not gonna happen! ... he is not Robert! You can learn the notes all day ... but standing there and playing Purple Haze, or All Along the Watchtower ... is simply not gonna come even close to the man who did it ... and believed in it ... all the way to heaven and hell forwards and backwards ... this I think Omar lacks! Or as we used to say in the old days ... he simply needs to get stoned!

 

 

Not that I would want to take that away from you, but I need to have you meet Egberto Gismonti (check his early stuff!) and then Jon McGlothlen ... it should warm you up really good.

Everyone makes mistakes.  It is human. I was wondering what you could possibly have meant for a while there. I wanted to hear why Lizard was  a copy of Court. Now I never will....  

Fixing it ... sorry.

 

The professor (Snow Dog) got me ... !!!!

 

Hopefully you won't have memory lapses when you get to 62 and have pains all over and .... and .... and ... makes the music seem even better and important as the inspiration that it always was!

Prog metal, for the most part, is.

I wonder sometimes if people who make unorthodox comments/comparisons have had a chance to listen to the albums in question - listen as in "recently, fully and without vacuum cleaner (or chainsaw) on". This has happened to myself a few times - had a listen once or twice (or long ago), don't even remember the title, the year or the album art, easy to confuse with something else.