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 Topic: Do you consider Bat Out Of Hell a concept album?
Posted: February 15 2013 at 17:15 |
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Steinman's solo album, Bad For Good, is awesome and underrated as well.
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 10:41 |
 Dean wrote:
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^Do you like Bat Out Of Hell Dean? |
The track is okay, the album is a snoooooooozefest, as are all other Loaf and Steinman albums I've heard - the whole Wagnerian Rock thang is as depressingly cliched and hackneyed as its namesake - it makes Battle Metal seem positivelty high-brow by comparison.
The only things Steinman touched that I like are 'Faster Than The speed of Night' for Bonnie Tyler and "More" for Sisters Of Mercy. |
I never even got into it back in the day. I had a friend who loved it so tried to like it. I think I even fooled myself I liked it. But really, to be honest.....I cannot stand it.
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Dean
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 10:33 |
Snow Dog wrote:
^Do you like Bat Out Of Hell Dean? |
The track is okay, the album is a snoooooooozefest, as are all other Loaf and Steinman albums I've heard - the whole Wagnerian Rock thang is as depressingly cliched and hackneyed as its namesake - it makes Battle Metal seem positivelty high-brow by comparison.
The only things Steinman touched that I like are 'Faster Than The speed of Night' for Bonnie Tyler and "More" for Sisters Of Mercy.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 10:23 |
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^Do you like Bat Out Of Hell Dean?
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 10:20 |
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Must be organic free-range macroprobiotic yak milk cheese - that's pretty incomprehensible.
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 06:46 |
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Yes lyrics are too incomprehensible to be cheesy.
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Posted: February 15 2013 at 04:10 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
No Jim:
1.- Great vocalist with the capacity to transmit emotions 2.- Amazing composer as Jim Steinman 3.- Stupendous music plenty of changes and elaborate compositions
Their only weakness is in the lyrics, but not as cheesy as Yes
Both albums are OUTSTANDING
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Well I'm convinced....NOT.Stupendous music indeed.  It is just turgid rubbish for me.
Edited by Snow Dog - February 15 2013 at 04:12
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 20:04 |
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No Jim:
1.- Great vocalist with the capacity to transmit emotions 2.- Amazing composer as Jim Steinman 3.- Stupendous music plenty of changes and elaborate compositions
Their only weakness is in the lyrics, but not as cheesy as Yes
Both albums are OUTSTANDING
Still not Prog.
Iván
PD: BOOG III is bad, because Meat is a great vocalist, but not a composer, he needs Steinman
Edited by Ivan_Melgar_M - February 14 2013 at 20:05
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 11:16 |
Ivan_Melgar_M wrote:
Jim Garten wrote:
On a hot summer night would you offer a place to the bloke with only one good album? |
Hi Jim..I consider Bat out of Hell II even better] |
Even better, or not as bad?
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 10:20 |
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 08:22 |
Jim Garten wrote:
On a hot summer night would you offer a place to the bloke with only one good album? |
Hi Jim..I consider Bat out of Hell II even better.
Iván
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 07:37 |
On this basis you could argue that most rock 'n' roll albums are concept albums, as by and large they all cover the same two or three themes.. 
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Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 07:04 |
Oh, we know that... we just hijacked it... 
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 06:58 |
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 06:49 |
Jim Garten wrote:
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The second was not so bad and two out of three ain't bad
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 05:26 |
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On a hot summer night would you offer a place to the bloke with only one good album?
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 04:52 |
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^You took the words right out of my mouth.
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 03:00 |
Oh f-for crying out loud 
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Posted: February 14 2013 at 02:56 |
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Posted: February 13 2013 at 13:39 |
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It's not prog, and it's not a concept album. It is a damn fine album, and there are a few artists on the site with less credentials. Not that that is a reason for inclusion, of course.
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Do you consider Bat Out Of Hell a concept album?
) I've always felt Meatloaf should be listed here.
