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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7493 |
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Yeah, I read about that MT gig, but couldn't make it! ![]() The "garden party" gig was great! Wish I were there! Martin Turner was (is) one of the BEST singing bassists, ever! Man, he could wail on bass while singing lead (not harmony like Squire). I'd put Martin Turner right up there with the best prog bassists. I don't know if many folks like "Wishbone 4," I was a huge fan of that LP as well. It wasn't perhaps as progressive as "Argus," but it rocked! I saw WA on tour right when 4 was released, amazing show!
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kenethlevine ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog-Folk Team Joined: December 06 2006 Location: New England Status: Offline Points: 9173 |
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some really good stuff there. Keys are not missed - the twin guitar approach is awesome, and the acoustic guitars add another dimension. Some of it is decidedly prog, but the degree to which it is prog doesn't matter much to me when it's this good
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omphaloskepsis ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 19 2011 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6878 |
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I didn't get into Wishbone Ash or Uriah Heep until this year...I really dig Argus and Heep's Salisbury...True masterpieces! The vocals, melodies and riffs are to die for.
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SteveG ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 11 2014 Location: Kyiv In Spirit Status: Offline Points: 20617 |
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Does anyone know why Turner and Powell split?
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AlanB ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 19 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1230 |
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I've seen MT's band many times - you could say I'm one of their biggest fans. I think they recreate the sound of 1970s Wishbone Ash very well.
I think they played in your neck of the woods on the tour that Tom Ozric alluded to, but that was the only time they've crossed the pond. I recommend the Garden Party recording as the next best think to seeing them. Ted Turner and Laurie Wisefield play on that too.
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The Dark Elf ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: February 01 2011 Location: Michigan Status: Offline Points: 13338 |
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Really, really love the guitars, but the 60s hippy vocals have always left me cold. It's rather like The Cowsills or It's a Beautiful Day merged with Lynyrd Skynyrd to make a prog album about King Arthur, who took the last ship to Alabama rather than Avalon.
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Xonty ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 23 2013 Location: Cornwall Status: Offline Points: 1759 |
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Argus definitely has lots of proggy elements but isn't prog. I think all the mythical allegories are there, plus some interesting chord progressions, but they all tend to be scalular and riffed upon for a few minutes. They're kind of having too much fun for it to be prog
![]() Whatever it is though, great record that always fits that kind of mood where you just need to listen to something simple but beautiful.
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bloodnarfer ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 15 2010 Location: Austin, TX Status: Offline Points: 2162 |
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My dad sort of ruined the album for me a bit. I was toward the end of Sometime World when he came in to my room and said "Isn't that really annoying and repetitive? Turn it off". I guess he sort of had a point, and it soured the album for me for a few years. I took his opinion too seriously, since it was music from his time period.
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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I would love to see them!
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Andrea Cortese ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: September 05 2005 Status: Offline Points: 4411 |
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^^^
A terrific record, indeed!
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7493 |
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John Tout, shame on you, Toddler! ![]() Has anyone seen either of the two touring Wishbone Ash iterations? I've seen Andy Powell's WA twice, and he really does a fantastic job with this material, including singing the lead vocals! Last time he had a Finnish guitarist who was a slide guitar whizz, it was fun! Martin Turner's WA project intrigues me, he has toured with Laurie Wisefield. I'd enjoy seeing them, I've only seen a snippet or two on Youtube and really liked what I heard.
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chopper ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: July 13 2005 Location: Essex, UK Status: Offline Points: 20048 |
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One of my favorite albums of all time. Definitely a prog album!
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TODDLER ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: August 28 2009 Location: Vineland, N.J. Status: Offline Points: 3126 |
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It's their strongest effort. "The King Will Come" is my favorite song from the album. "Time Was" is a great Rock song ! I will always love that track. It reminds me of a song that Danny Kirwan would have written for Fleetwood Mac during the Future Games/Bare Trees period. I also hear a lot of Pete Townshend chord style changes/voicings in the song. "Leaf and Stream" is beautiful, but again...everything about it reminds me of Danny Kirwan's guitar playing and particularly vocals. I bought this album the week it was released and had a instantaneous reaction about it's originality. It is very original and to the character of Wishbone Ash. The emulation of others that I hear in their music does not hold a candle to their originality. Wishbone Ash are very unique. Sometimes they blend a "Traditional Folk" vocal sounding style with "Traditional Irish Folk" phrasings on guitar...such as "Jigs" ...for example the guitar harmony signature playing at the end of "Blowin" Free" and about a hundred other songs . Andy Powell is a very melodic player, technical enough to pull off surprising things, and a fine vocalist. The keyboardist from Renaissance, (forget name, shame on me), plays on "Throw Down The Sword" and then Andy Powell plays lead guitar on "Ashes Are Burning" A great time period to remember.
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BarryGlibb ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 28 2010 Location: Melbourne, Oz Status: Offline Points: 1781 |
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Argus: yep everybody should own a copy i.e. on vinyl or CD........ not MP3 or YouTube. Just buy the thing and listen to it in true Hi Fi.
The only track I do not care for anymore off this album is Blowin' Free.....this song is too mainstream, southern rock for my liking. Edited by BarryGlibb - February 15 2015 at 03:43 |
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Jaz ![]() Forum Groupie ![]() ![]() Joined: August 31 2014 Location: France Status: Offline Points: 70 |
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Do you know "Epitaph" a (German, British ?) Band who play guitars like Wishbone Ash !
http://epitaph-band.de/discografie/cd/
I like very much the first album "Epitaph" and 2nd album "Stop Look and Listen" , great guitars !! |
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Tom Ozric ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 03 2005 Location: Olympus Mons Status: Offline Points: 15926 |
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Confession time...........
In mid-2013, I had a planned vacation to NYC, and at that time, there was a collective bill with Nektar and MT's Wishbone Ash at BB King's, near Times Square. I've been into Nektar since 1989, but never heard a note of WA. All I knew was they were a twin-guitar band that Steve Harris adored. I was soooo excited to actually catch Nektar first and foremost, I actually contemplated leaving after their set. I thought, " stuff it, I've come half-way around the world, lets see what all the fuss is with these Ash dudes ". I'm ever so glad I hung around........ I regret not discovering them earlier....... |
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cstack3 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() VIP Member Joined: July 20 2009 Location: Tucson, AZ USA Status: Offline Points: 7493 |
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Check it out!! Good stuff! |
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fudgenuts64 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 17 2013 Location: NY Status: Offline Points: 470 |
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I need to listen to this one of these days. Heard so many great things about it.
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SquonkHunter ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 22 2013 Location: Texas, by God! Status: Offline Points: 339 |
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Agree with all the above. A fantastic album all around. It is one I have never tired of hearing.
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AlanB ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: January 19 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1230 |
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My all time favourite album by any band. Why it's never mentioned in those lists of "1001 albums you must hear before you die" is beyond me......
The twin lead solo at the end of Throw Down The Sword still gives me goosebumps after 40 years.
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