The Slaughterhouse (The Noise/Industrial thread)

I'm glad that there's a thread about those genres here! Because when I'm on air and I transmit noise or musique concrete etc., they don't really like it! That's why I have few listeners! Even the co-producers don't like it! Though, it's a bit extreme to transmit Daniel Menche/Zbigniew Karkowski (an example) on a web prog radio station! :pp A co-producer was in shock! At first, he thought the player was broken! 

Edited by Prog Geo - March 19 2016 at 14:57

Sheavy wrote: LearsFool wrote: I listen to a little PE, just like my gym teacher always wanted me to. Love me some Ramleh, which stretched, contorted, and went beyond PE, plus Whitehouse, Prurient, Pharmakon, and a little Sutcliffe Jugend. But mainly I want to talk about Ramleh. Yeah, but out of all they have done, the noise rock/grunge stuff, the psychedelic improvised stuff, I much prefer the Noise/Power Electronic of their early 80's output. I wish their was more of their PE stuff readily available, I've only got Valediction, We Created It Vol III, and Hole In The Heart. I really want to get the other volumes of the We Created It series. The Awake! 8 CD re-release would be awesome to have, but that's way out of my price range...

I listen to a little PE, just like my gym teacher always wanted me to.

Icarium wrote: i recomend Vaiping art industrial rock

I forgot to say I listened to this and was pleasantly surprised and might just listen again later on

The Dead C give me a strong The Birthday Party vibe in the abrasive and kinda post-apocalyptic expression their entire stlye has, but with a Kosmische Musik expansiveness in the scope of their music and how they build up their "soundscapes". I haven't listened to them that much, but that's what I get from the songs I have heard.

So this has taken me a long time to think about... It does sound like some kind of more neutral punk with more advanced technology, so maybe it will be better excepted in a colder post-modern society.

Well I've heard Charlie and Fetch now, both very pleasant. I wouldn't call it dystopian though, it's not very dreamy indeed, but it isn't very cynical either. With the whole J-Pop vibe behind it it's actually rather quirky.

Time for my effortpost on Melt-Banana to appear: I think I might have found a new favourite band in them.

They're like the perfect counter-argument against the stereotypes that punk groups aren't good musicians or interested in ambitious songwriting, and that avant-garde experimental music can't be fun. Not to mention that MxBx (fan nickname) is also a sterling example of extremely violent and aggressive music that's not stereotypically masculine at all. It's fascinating how they can switch gears between many different riffing styles and textures with a rather minimal setup just by way of creative guitar pedals and electronic effects use, fitting it into some pretty inventive and complex song structures while keeping them extremely concise and even catchy. I can't think of many other music groups who buck that many stereotypes at the conceptual level.

I think what keeps all those disparate components together is pulling off the entire grim-but-colourful futuristic-but-kinda-lo-fi dystopian aesthetic which I'm a huge fan of, and which is one of the things I like so much about this whole music culture. MxBx seem to add a distinctly Japanese twist on it, I get a similar vibe from their music as Akira and Ghost in the Shell even more so. So far my favourite of their albums is the cliché pick of Cell-Scape, because that's where that entire conceptual aesthetic Gesamtkunstwerk aspect of their music is realized the fullest. For those who aren't familiar with the band I'll post a couple of my favourite songs from that album:





Heard their earlier, punkier records and the newest one Fetch are just as good though?

The point stands that a good deal of grindcore and pretty much all noise rock is culturally more punk than metal. Drone doom's in turn influenced by The Melvins who on quite a few of their songs took the "punk in slow motion" aspect of Flipper and early Swans expanding it in an extreme direction. Earth seem to have drawn from not just that but also the heavy psychedelic music that metal evolved out of, however it's still focused more on atmosphere than riffing and textural development over the well-defined narrative structure. (i. e. the opposite direction than what metal did different than psych)


Edited by Toaster Mantis - April 22 2015 at 10:40

I'll post a couple links here. It sounds like some of the earliest avant-garde music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E30e1qjlu6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvJiOBSjYg