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Rick1 
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I was 8 at the time, but looking back prog really got into it's stride: ELP's debut, Soft Machine's 'Third', Egg's debut, Genesis 'Trespass'...the list goes on. Experimentation was the key as exemplified by Zappa 'Burnt Weeny' etc. Some might say that the classic prog period was in its infancy and that was to come over the next few years...
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Posted: April 24 2020 at 02:22 |
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I consider 1971 to be THE year, but 1970 certainly was a good year
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Posted: April 24 2020 at 02:28 |
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1970 was a good year, but prog was still in its adolescence. The greatest years were 1971, 1972, 1973 and 1975.
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BaldJean
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Posted: April 24 2020 at 03:55 |
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let's name a few albums for 1970 (not just prog; I am not a prog snob at all): Amon Düül 2 - Yeti Atomic Rooster - Atomic Rooster Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You Birth Control - Birth Control Black Sabbath - Black Sabbath Black Widow - Sacrifice Can - Soundtracks Curved Air - Air Conditioning Deep Purple - Deep Purple in Rock Doors, The - Morrison Hotel Embryo - Opal Emerson, Lake and Palmer - Emerson, Lake and Palmer Fleetwood Mac - Kiln House Frumpy - All Will Be Changed Genesis - Trespass Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant Gong - Magick Brother Grateful Dead - American Beauty Guru Guru - UFO Hawkwind - Hawkwind King Crimson - Lizard High Tide - High Tide Iron Butterfly - Metamorphosis Jethro Tull - Benefit King Crimson - In the Wake of Poseidon King Crimson - Lizard Led Zeppelin - III Lindisfarne - Nicely out of Tune Lucifer's Friend - Lucifer's Friend Magma - Magma Mothers of Invention, The - Weasels Ripped My Flesh Nice, The - Five Bridges Omega - Éjszakai Országút Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother Popol Vuh - Affenstunde Quicksilver Messenger Service - Just for Love Quicksilver Messenger Service - What About Me Quintessence - Quintessence Rufus Zuphall - Weiß der Teufel Santana - Abraxas Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation Titanic - Titanic UFO - UFO 1 Uiah Heep - Very 'eavy, very 'umble Van der Graaf Generator - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other Van der Graaf Generator - H to He, Who Am the Only One Wishbone Ash - Wishbone Ash Yes - Time and a Word Zappa, Frank - Chunga's Revenge I probably forgot a lot
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Frenetic Zetetic
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Posted: April 24 2020 at 04:17 |
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An amazing year for progressive rock indeed. Lots of solid starts that would bloom to be classic, quintessential recordings of that era. Yes, Genesis, Gentle Giant, VDGG, ELP, PF, etc...
...So much happened in such a short window of time (1969-1976ish)!
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Sean Trane
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Posted: April 24 2020 at 04:26 |
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I was 7 at the time and only knew of Tull (Bourée & Cuckoo), thanks to daddy (the person, not the band that would become Supertramp), so I cannot comment first hand, so I will do retrospectivally (which most of us will anyways) Soooo here is my Gnosis top, knowing that 14/15 is the best note that an album can have in my eyes, 13 is stil; a five star and 12 a four stars plus 11 (not all of them listed, just the ones i deem relevant, though there are more interesting ones) are 4 stars. All of them are alphabetically ordered past the Gnosis grade I gave them. 14 Spirit The Twelve Dreams of Dr. Sardonicus 13 Black Sabbath Paranoid 13 Buckley, Tim Starsailor 13 John Cale & Terry Riley - Church of Anthrax 13 Caravan If I Could Do It All Over 13 Coltrane, Alice - Ptah, the El Daoud 13 Davis, Miles Bitches Brew 13 King Crimson Lizard 13 Nucleus Elastic Rock 13 Savoy Brown Raw Sienna 13 Tyner, McCoy Asante 12 Amon Düül II Yeti 12 Audience Friend's Friend's Friend 12 Black Sabbath Black Sabbath 12 Deep Purple In Rock 12 Garrick, Michael The Heart Is A Lotus 12 Genesis Trespass 12 Henry Lowther Band Child Song 12 Magma - Kobaia 12 McLaughlin, John Devotion 12 Murphy Blend First Loss 12 Out of Focus Wake Up 12 Pearls Before Swine The Use of Ashes 12 Pink Floyd Atom Heart Mother 12 Santana Abraxas 12 Savoy Brown Looking In 12 Supertramp Supertramp 12 Sweet Smoke Just a Poke 12 Tangerine Dream Electronic Meditation 12 Ten Years After Cricklewood Green 12 Traffic John Barleycorn Must Die 12 Trees On the Shore 12 Trees The Garden of Jane Delawney 12 Tyner, McCoy Extensions 12 Van der Graaf Generator - The Least We Can Do Is Wave to Each Other 12 Soft Machine – Third 11 Ache De Homine Urbano 11 Annexus Quam Osmose 11 Atomic Rooster s/t 11 Atomic Rooster Death Walks Behind You 11 Brian Auger's Oblivion Express 11 Auger & The Trinity Befour 11 Ayers, Kevin Shooting at the Moon 11 Byrd, Donald Electric Byrd 11 Demon Fuzz Afreaka! 11 Emerson, Lake and Palmer – s/t 11 Funkadelic Funkadelic USA 11 Golden Earring Golden Earring (AKA 8 MH) 11 Guru Guru UFO 11 Hendrix, Jimi The Rainbow Bridge Concert 11 Kantner & Grace Slick Blows Against The Empire 11 King Crimson In the Wake of Poseidon 11 Led Zeppelin III 11 McDonald and Giles McDonald and Giles 11 Pentangle Cruel Sister 11 Quicksilver Messenger Service Just for Love 11 Quicksilver Messenger Service What About Me 11 Strawbs Just a Collection of Antiques and Curios 11 Supersister Present From Nancy 11 Tippett Band - You Are Here, I Am There 11 Van der Graaf Generator H to HE Who Am the Only One TBH, I can't think of more than one or two years that would top this sheer abundance Hi Svettie !! Edited by Sean Trane - April 24 2020 at 04:29 |
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I don't think he is. I rarely listen to this band, but what they were doing back then was quite unique if you ask me.
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I prefer their debut to their legendary Maggot Brains and Free Your Ass and Your Mind Will Follow  . Some of that killer funk was quite progressive. War, Mandrill, Cymande and Osibisa did some really cool stuff too. |
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EDIT: a problem with deleting a user including their posts is that then other posts will be seen out of context. The following paragraph was referring to a removed user. I should have quoted just in case he got deleted. Basically he was saying that Funkadelic is disco and disco is a lame joke.
That [as said to the deleted user] comes across as very narrow-minded to me, and frankly, as a juvenile response. I love plenty of Funkadelic, and the debut from 1970 also is my favourite. It's funk rock with psychedelic qualities. I wouldn't call it disco (and I like plenty of disco and discoesque music). Out of curiosity, have you actually listened to the album? I like the related Parliament's Osmium from the same year also. To each his or her own tastes Anyway, there is so much amazing music from 1970. Some of my faves are: Magma - Kobaia Soft Machine - Third Igor Wakhévitch - Logos Amon Duul II - Yeti Supersister - Present From Nancy Can - Soundtracks Pink Floyd - Atom Heart Mother Linda Perhacs - Parallelograms Egg - Egg Association P.C. - Earwax Staff Carpenborg and the Electric Corona - Fantastic Party Van der Graaf Generator - The Least... and H to He... Atomic Rooster - Death Walks Behind You Pearls Before Swine - The Use of Ashes Demon Fuzz - Afreaka! Bo Hansson - Sagan om Ringen Dvid Bowie - The Man Who Sold the World David Axelrod - Earth Rot Tim Buckley - Starsailor and Lorca King Crimson - Lizard and In the Wake Trees - The Garden of Jane Delawney Jason Havelock - Pop Symphony Embryo - Opal Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation Nucleus - Elastic Rock Gentle Giant - Gentle Giant Miles Davis - Bitches Brew Kevin Ayers & The Whole World - Shooting at the Moon Robert Wyatt - The End of an Ear The Pentangle - Cruel Sister Forest - Full Circle C.O.B - Spirit of Love Tudor Lodge - Tudor Lodge Black Widow - Sacrifice Jan Dukes de Grey - Sorcerers Lucifer's Friend - self-titled Bruce Haack - The Electric Lucifer High Tide - High Tide Santana - Abraxas Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You Vashti Bunyan - Just Another Diamond Day Jethro Tull - Benefit Quatermass - Quatermass Mickey Curtis and Samurai - Samurai Supertramp - Supertramp etc. Edited by Logan - April 24 2020 at 17:01 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I observed before. It can be much like that with music for me; immersed in experiencing the moment.
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Posted: April 24 2020 at 09:10 |
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Some good lists above but I think most of us, that are old enough, weren't listening to many of those since they were more obscure in many cases.
I turned 19 that year and started second year of college in fall of 1970...the big ones for me were ELP, Santana- Abraxas, Wake of Poseidon, Genesis -Trespass, Chicago 2, Atom heart Mother, Tull- Benefit, Traffic- Barleycorn, Moody Blues, Uriah heep, Procol Harum, ....... sadly a lot of the others were not on my radar at that time when I was 19 in southern Indiana. Sorry...In forgot about Sabbath and Zep....two big ones back then..
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Posted: April 24 2020 at 09:33 |
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I was 9 yrs old
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I have to admit you have one leg to stand on. These albums are full-fledged prog indeed. Let me call it "early adulthood" then.
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Svettie,  don't come in with your twisted preconceived ideas of musical genre and prejudice , here.  |
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I was zero years old since I was born that year. :) Anyway, I consider 1970 to be a toddler year for prog. It had been around for a while but was now starting to walk. Trespass, Time and a word, the first ELP, Poseidon, A question of balance, Benefit, The least we can do, From the witchwood, Gentle Giant(first album), Atom Heart Mother, Abraxas(Santana), John Barleycorn must die, Chicago 2 and Burnt Weenie Sandwich among others are all very good.
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1974 how can you not include?? Relayer, the lamb
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Your musical mind is not that open for you to make this comment. Funkadelic/Parliament were very progressive....and as far as musical style this is light years from disco.
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Yea "prog" was not even a moniker back then, it was art/psych/acid rock/pop. It was only in the mid 70's that the prog moniker started to be used.
Many, many artists were moving away from traditional music schemes in rock, R&B, pop, soul music....it was all progressive. But I know what you are meaning and today we can label it prog.
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Some of that killer funk was quite progressive. War, Mandrill, Cymande and Osibisa did some really cool stuff too. Three of these four bands are listed on Prog Archives as Jazz/Rock Fusion, so I would not put them in the category of disco, either. Osibisa is a personal favorite of mine. Just because they use good grooves does not mean that the music is bad. These bands all had to work as highly cohesive units to make the music work at all, not unlike much of the output of King Crimson. As to Funkadelic, I would put Bootsy Collins on the same level with any bass player around, including our beloved gods of the bottom end, and Eddie Hazel's solo on Maggot Brain is amazing. Prog, my favorite musical genre, is not the only place for good musicianship.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Nope. The term progressive rock was starting to be used by 1969 although just progressive was more common in the early 70's. The term prog rock didn't become a thing until the punk fans used it disparagingly in the late 70's and just "prog" wasn't really common until at least the late 80's.
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I share your opinion.
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