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A Prog Metal Poll: American vs. European |
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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I included some of the prominent prog metal bands from the USA and Europe. The poll doesn't ask if you prefer American or European prog metal in general. Consider only the bands included here for your preference. I didn't include Opeth, as they are not "metal" or even edgy rock anymore.
Which one is your "bunch"? Edited by Shadowyzard - December 12 2021 at 06:38 |
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Grumpyprogfan ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 09 2019 Location: KC Status: Offline Points: 13122 |
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Really close but I'll go with American.
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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None.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 47185 |
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with these bands I choose American.
I don't listen to Ayreon anymore, so that tipped the scale for the three American bands. Pain of Salvation and Riverside are both excellent bands.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 46241 |
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I prefer Ayreon to Dream Theater, but I don't know the other four bands in the poll, so I choose Neither.
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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8683 |
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From this list of six, I choose both: I love songs & albums by all six of them!
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Drew Fisher
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6742 |
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I really only listen to one of the American, and one of the European bands listed, and of those two, Europe is the winner. But if I looked at the question more broadly, the answer would still be European as there is WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY more European prog metal that floats my boat than American.
Actually, I would go as far as to say there is way more European music, in general, and probably in every genre, that I prefer to the American equivalent. But then, that is possibly because I am assumin by the bands listed, that the OP means North American only. If Central and South America were included, it would give the Americas a boost. Unfortunately, it probably still couldn’t compete with the sheer variety Europe has to offer - simply because there are so many geographic regions within Europe that have such different cultures, traditional musical styles, and instrumentation. It’s not really a fair contest, from my point of view. But I’m well aware my view may be a minority, as a lot of people will listen to only the bands from Europe and America which are largely homogeneous, and drawing upon the same influences and sounds. |
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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Actually I meant the bands solely from the USA. Frankly, calling the people living in the USA "Americans" is ridiculous for me. Not only it is nonsensical, as it is their continent's name, but also subsuming the name "American" annoys the hell out of many people from the other countries of America, such as Brazil and Argentina. As they are also "Americans". I witnessed that. "Hey, we are also Americans!" ![]() But, the world is full of annoying nonsensicalities. For more than a decade, I tend to give less importance to such "trivial" things. Or should I try to make the world accept that they should be called "the Americo" or "the USA'ians"? ![]() |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6742 |
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^Yeah, I wondered. For me, American means anyone from North, Central or South America. I have never used the term to mean simply residents of the US. A Canadian is as American as a Mexican or Venezuelan. I once had a Canadian query me after describing him as American if I would want to be called Australasian, and was bewildered when I said it wouldn’t bother me at all, because I know I am Australasian. Then again, seeing how many Englishmen don’t like to be called European, it’s not just a Canadian/American thing.
If you meant the US vs Europe, then Europe would almost certainly win hands down with me, every time. |
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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^ How do you call the people from the USA? You are British or English. But if you mean from the UK, there's no UK'ian. As is the case for the people from the USA. I prefer to call the people from the USA "Americans" as I don't know of any other word to address them.
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 54094 |
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I've lived my entire life in the U.S.A. Americans is the term we use for ourselves. Other than derogatory terms, I've never heard of us being referred to by any other term. History of this usage dates back to the British colonies on the eastern part of North America. Before that it did refer to both continents, but I'm not aware of anyone using it in this manner other than here in this thread. I don't believe there is any official term for peoples of both continents, but have heard academics use the phrase "peoples of the Americas," otherwise, North Americans and South Americans for the individual continents.
Not that this matters, but the U.S.A. is the only country on both continents that has America in its name. I know of no other person on these two continents that is having some battle over the usage of the name Americans, though I will admit I may be ignorant of such a thing going on. I know most Canadians would never want to be called Americans, though given the last few years, I would consider it an honor if somebody called me a Canadian. Inside my country, sometimes we are referred to by the state we live in. In my case, Pennsylvanians. But that isn't common usage where I live. Similar examples are Californians, Texans, Arizonans, Minnesotans, etc. English is a weird language.
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Shadowyzard ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: February 24 2020 Location: Davutlar Status: Offline Points: 4506 |
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^ I think the name of your country, The United States of America, makes it hard to give you a precise word denoting your nationality. I'm fine with saying "American culture", "American people", "American movies" etc. for the "things" that belong to the United States of America. But another day, I might get mad and call you the USians as an Asian (actually Eurasian).
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19816 |
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I'm not the prog metal enthusiast I once was, but as far as I'm concerned, there's Fates Warning, Savatage, early Dream Theater, Threshold with Damian Wilson, and then there's everything else.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 47185 |
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there's also Threshold with Andrew McDermott and Glynn Morgan, which is just as good as the work with Damien, sometimes even better IMO.
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 54094 |
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I get mad at my country all the time. When I do, I usually call them turds or poopheads. Maybe not so helpful in the grand scheme of things, but at the least a form of stress relief.
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 54094 |
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Oh, and I voted for European in this poll. Sorry for the tangent.
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David_D ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 26 2010 Location: Copenhagen Status: Offline Points: 16155 |
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quality over quantity, and all kind of PopcoRn almost beyond
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 46241 |
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I'm English first and foremost, British second, and a UK citizen a distant third, and an American to me is a citizen of the United States.
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Duddick ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: August 02 2014 Location: Newport, Wales Status: Offline Points: 432 |
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although I am English it should be noted there are actually other countries in the U.K. such as the one I currently live in which is Wales. The people here would not take kindly to being called English at all…..
I voted neither since I just can’t see the appeal in anything metal related
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VianaProghead ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() Joined: July 15 2015 Location: Portugal Status: Offline Points: 3069 |
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I like all but I think I prefer the European, as a whole.
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