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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 39001 |
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Pre-1990 in the title meaning that the first studio album was released before 1990, not that it broke up before 1990.
These are some long-lived bands with ten or more studio albums, and no "solo" names. All of these must have relesased a studio album in the 10s or up to qualify and must have released an album before the 90s began. All are included in PA "Prog" categories. Art Zoyd - Symphonie pour le jour oů brűleront les cités (1976) & Phase V (2018)* Banco del Mutuo Soccorso - s/t (1972) & Transiberiana (2019) Camel - Camel (1973) & The Snow Goose (Re-recording) (2013)** Caravan - Caravan (1968) & It’s None of Your Business (2021) Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite (1989) & A View From the Top of the World (2021) Faust - Faust (1971) & ,,Daumenbruch" (2022)*** Goblin - Profondo rosso (1975) & Fearless (37513 Zombie Ave.) (2018)**** Guru Guru - UFO (1970) & Rotate! (2018)***** Gong - Magick Brother (1970) & The Universe Also Collapses (2019) Hawkwind - Hawkwind (1970) & Somnia (2021) IQ - Tales from the Lush Attic (1983) & Resistance (2019) Jethro Tull - This Was (1968) & The Zealot Gene (2022) Magma - Magma [Kobaďa] (1970) & Zëss - Le Jour Du Néant (2019) Marillion - Script for a Jester's Tear (1983) & An Hour Before It's Dark (2022) Pendragon - The Jewel (1985) & Love Over Fear (2020) Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967) & The Endless River (2014) Premiata Forneria Marconi [PFM] - Storia di un minuto (1972) & I Dreamed of Electric Sheep / Ho sognato pecore elettriche (2021) Renaissance - Renaissance (1969) & Grandine Il Vento [aka: Symphony Of Light] (2013) Rush - Rush (1974) & Clockwork Angels (2012) Soft Machine - The Soft Machine (1968) & Hidden Details (2018)****** Swans - Filth (1983) & leaving meaning. (2019) Tangerine Dream - Electronic Meditation (1970) & Raum (2022) Univers Zéro - Univers Zéro [1313] (1977) & Phosphorescent Dreams (2014) Van der Graaf Generator [VdGG] - The Aerosol Grey Machine (1969) & Do Not Disturb (2016) Yes - Yes (1969) & The Quest (2021) * Due to a comment, I changed Art Zoyd's latest studio album release from Armageddon - Opérette Pour Robots (2012) to Phase V which I will consider both as a boxset (spans five CDs) and as a studio albums release. ** I questioned whether I should include Camel as The Snow Goose is the only Camel studio album since 2002, and it is a re-recording. This is not the only hump in the road to making this poll. *** While PA lists a later album from 2022 for Faust (Punkt), I did not include it because I see it listed as an archival release elsewhere. **** PA does not list the Fearless Goblin album but lists two others that are later, both of which are under the name Claudio Simonetti's Goblin. Fearless is the last studio album listed at other sites I checked, including the official site. The latest proper Goblin release listed at PA is Four of a Kind from 2015. ***** I re-ordered a bit and replaced Clannad's Clannad (1973) & Nádúr (2013) with the Guru Guru albums after a comment was left. I do like early Clannad and don't know the modern albums of either. ****** I had forgotten about Soft Machine's Hidden Details and it wasn't listed where I had primarily checked albums for initial research -- now added. Santana - Santana (1969) & Blessings and Miracles (2021) was removed for it despite how much that debut by Santana has meant to me. Feel free to vote no matter how little you know from the list provided that you have heard both albums by the band you vote for, or have at least heard a fair amount of music from both the debut and that latest album listed. So please vote for a pair of albums you like by an act, can appreciate somewhat, know, respect the most out of those duos you know here, dislike the least.... :) Also feel free to mention any other album duos (first and last) by a band (not artist) provided that the band released its first album before 1990, released at least one studio in the 2010's and/or 2020's, is included in a Prog category at PA, and has released at least ten studio albums during its career. Apologies if I seem to have missed obvious ones and for any errors. I tried to cover many big names and went outside my tastes. If it was just about what I liked, then the list would be significantly different with various lesser known bands. There actually is not a lot here where I have heard both albums, at least in full. Edited by Logan - July 05 2022 at 09:48 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Psychedelic Paul ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: September 16 2019 Location: Nottingham, U.K Status: Offline Points: 46244 |
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Renaissance, but only by a narrow margin over Camel, Pendragon & Yes, by special re-Quest.
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6742 |
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I rest the OP blurb before looking at the list, and was unsurprised to see the first two bands that had immediately sprung to my mind (VDGG and BSM) were there. I gave my vote to BSM, after a little thought.
The next bands I thought of were “prog related”, but still in PA: Black Sabbath (1970 and 2013) Iron Maiden (1980 and 2021) Plus a few more (from prog related) that I’m not familiar enough with, and can’t be bothered to check, but am sure would fit the criteria: Kings X Metallica Phish Wishbone Ash |
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6742 |
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Ooh, just thought of another. Soft Machine. 👍🏻
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 39001 |
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^^ Not really important, but by "is included in a Prog category at PA", I meant to exclude the Prog related and Proto-Prog categories as those have been termed non-prog categories in my time at PA. I've actually had a problem with calling those non-Prog categories so all the more reason to be more descriptive.
As for Soft Machine, that is one that I had hoped to include but hadn't researched enough. I love the early albums and Third is one of my very favourite albums in PA. I looked it up on rateyourmusic, and it does not go beyond 1994's Rubber Riff for studio albums. I forgot about Hidden Details, which is in PA. Often I find I have to cross-check more than one site, even in cases where I had know of an album, but forgot like with Soft Machine. I might edit that one in while losing another. Edited by Logan - July 04 2022 at 10:01 |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8683 |
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Nice, fresh idea for a poll, Greg!
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nick_h_nz ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Prog Metal / Heavy Prog Team Joined: March 01 2013 Location: Suffolk, UK Status: Offline Points: 6742 |
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Oh, yes, I understood your intention. I was just saying that the next bands that occurred to me were prog-related, rather than in a pro category. There are probably a number of prog metal bands that meet your criteria, but I’m guessing they are not really bands you’d be familiar with. The bands/albums I particularly like from your poll are: Art Zoyd BSM Goblin Gong Magma Rush Swans Univers Zéro VDGG |
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Logan ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() Site Admin Joined: April 05 2006 Location: In repose. Status: Offline Points: 39001 |
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Oh, I see. Thanks, Nick. Black Sabbath was actually one of the first name to come to my mind when thinking about this poll (as was Soft Machine, sadly, cause I missed it badly). If I include it then I am removing Santana despite how significant that debut has been to me..
Thanks, Drew. While I commonly don't vote in my own polls and also not that uncommonly vote in my own polls with the commentary that I don't often vote in my own polls, :p , I will give Magma a vote. |
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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.
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Nogbad_The_Bad ![]() Forum & Site Admin Group ![]() ![]() RIO/Avant/Zeuhl & Eclectic Team Joined: March 16 2007 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 21820 |
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Univers Zero is the only one for me.
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progaardvark ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover/Symphonic/RPI Teams Joined: June 14 2007 Location: Sea of Peas Status: Offline Points: 54094 |
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Quite a few nice ones. Went with Banco.
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Manuel ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: March 09 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 13481 |
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PFM, Banco and Jethro Tull. I voted for PFM, but l like the other two almost the same.
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Cristi ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Crossover / Prog Metal Teams Joined: July 27 2006 Location: wonderland Status: Offline Points: 47185 |
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Marillion I guess
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Mellotron Storm ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 27 2006 Location: The Beach Status: Offline Points: 15015 |
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Rush for me but I don't know most of the current albums by many of these bands.
IQ, UZ and Camel are runnerups.
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"The wind is slowly tearing her apart"
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I'm not the most faithtful fan and out of all these later albums I've only ever heard Do Not Disturb. Which I really like btw. But I can't vote
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VdGG
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Offline Points: 19816 |
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I voted for Tangerine Dream (just ahead of Goblin).
Electronic Meditation is the beginning of an era, the debut by one of the most important bands that has ever existed, IMHO. The new album, Raum, in spite of having only three composition credits by the late founder Edgar Froese, is better than it has any right to be, a tour de force that encapsulates everything Tangerine Dream has sonically represented (with exception to the band's nadir in the '90s). (Raum, which means "space," comes fifty years after Tangerine Dream's third album, Zeit, which means "time.") Goblin is another of my favorite bands. I've listened to them about as long as Tangerine Dream. Profondo Rosso is a landmark soundtrack album for a landmark film, and I don't believe Goblin has ever not played the iconic title theme in any of their concerts. Fearless is a really cool album of re-recordings that features new arrangements, new twists, and even orchestral backing (that works!) on three tracks. It's not an album of brand-new material, but I love it, and the band sounded great as ever on it (RIP to guitarist and co-founder Massimo Morante, who died very recently).
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Mormegil ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 03 2010 Location: NE PA Status: Offline Points: 8205 |
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RRUUSSHH, Marillion, and IQ
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Welcome to the middle of the film.
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geekfreak ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: June 21 2013 Location: Secret Garden Status: Offline Points: 9891 |
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Rush, Marillion and IQ
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Friedrich Nietzsche: "Without music, life would be a mistake."
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Olape ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 28 2013 Location: Chile Status: Offline Points: 2438 |
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Banco del Mutuo Soccorso for me. Transiberiana is a very good album and the debut is my favorite from them.
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Quite a few good ones, but went for Pendragon - I love both of these 2 albums.
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