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^ Apology accepted - but I seriously did not take it personally. I wrote an exaggerated response to make a point, but I wasn't entirely serious there even, since I know you're a bit of an anarchist. Stay out of the thread if you like, but you're welcome to occasionally add some avant-garde banter-in-opposition. LOL



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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Too much drama on this site so i'd rather learn about bugs

I agree, there's been too much drama, and I'd say, that's not least due to too much violating of various PA rules which is of course a problem for different reasons, for instance not good for PA's reputation.
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^ Constantly nagging other forum users when they 'dare' to talk about a non-prog act in a prog thread does more harm to these forums than someone evoking Tears for Fears in a prog thread. Please stop it.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

I like to sometimes say, feel free to speak your mind but mind your speech.

Free speech necessarily has its limits.

Hi,

I think the American founding daddies had the right idea ... but they did not exactly follow it and eventually it all led into a Civil War of sorts, which was blamed on such ideas as "slavery", and not the Constitution at all. It's been said that it was, in many ways, very naive ... which I don't agree on, however, in this day and age, with 1 million lawyers trying to break the law and the Constitution, I'm not surprised that it's almost impossible to define and specify what "free speech" means ... not to mention that for the last 75 years the American Supreme Court has fiddled and distorted the Constitution left and right, making it even worse and more difficult to interpret. 

Makes one think that the Supreme Court lacks the moral ethics to even consider the issue, is my thought.
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Quote Free speech
 

 
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png
 
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^ Absolutely correct. Smile
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I can't believe how little Mike is asking for, and yet some people nag. It's simple: respect for each other and keep order whatever the conversation. It's the basis of any interpersonal relationship. But it seems that the nicer you are, the more they'll call you authoritarian. And what would be good for these people? Stirring plates? We came into the world to disagree and to learn from other realities. Although the truth is in oneself, it is discovered by observing. I think we will all agree that insult can never be the best we can come up with.
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Originally posted by I prophesy disaster I prophesy disaster wrote:

Quote Free speech
 

 
https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png
 


It violates free speech when the Government pressures a social media site to cancel you.  It's a violation of free speech when the Government pressures banks to close your accounts.  The Twitter files proved both happen.  Wink 


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Originally posted by Argentinfonico Argentinfonico wrote:

I can't believe how little Mike is asking for, and yet some people nag. It's simple: respect for each other and keep order whatever the conversation. It's the basis of any interpersonal relationship. But it seems that the nicer you are, the more they'll call you authoritarian. And what would be good for these people? Stirring plates? We came into the world to disagree and to learn from other realities. Although the truth is in oneself, it is discovered by observing. I think we will all agree that insult can never be the best we can come up with.

Nonsense.

Mike posts things.  Mike gets commentary on those things.  Mike doesn't like the comments.   Mike gets into an argument.   Mike doesn't like how the argument goes.   Mike then complains he's being abused.

No one's buying it.
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^ I’m not complaining because I’m “getting abused” - I’m complaining because the discussions degrade into name-calling and trolling. But I do not expect anyone to change - we all do as we please, which is as it should be.
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"When Honorary Collaborators disagree."

See what happens when two big guns test their credibility in open discourse.

A championship bout of little or no consequence.

Oh the drama!

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Oh the Indifference !

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Edited by Atavachron - November 01 2023 at 21:10
"Too often we enjoy the comfort of opinion without the discomfort of thought."   -- John F. Kennedy
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Originally posted by Hugh Manatee Hugh Manatee wrote:

"When Honorary Collaborators disagree."

See what happens when two big guns test their credibility in open discourse.

A championship bout of little or no consequence.

Oh the drama!

Be there, or be uninterested.


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I like this thread...
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Originally posted by omphaloskepsis omphaloskepsis wrote:

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https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/free_speech.png
 
It violates free speech when the Government pressures a social media site to cancel you.  It's a violation of free speech when the Government pressures banks to close your accounts.  The Twitter files proved both happen.  Wink 

Hi,

Yeah, but nobody reminded Mr. Trump of that and took action ...!!! And the media predilection these days is throw stones until they are dead ... guilty or not!
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