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Fragile is Superestimated? |
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ELPmasters 
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 Topic: Fragile is Superestimated?Posted: Yesterday at 16:26 |
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What do you think about this?
For me, Fragile is not this album like the people talk so much... Your best moments is Roundabout, South Side of The Sky and Heart of a Sunrise. The double Distance/Fish is better on Yessongs |
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: 23 hours 15 minutes ago at 17:25 |
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Superestimate
verb 1. (rare, nonstandard) Synonym of overestimate. Usage notes -- Mainly an error by non-native speakers, perhaps through confusion with e.g. Spanish sobrestimar. Overrated? Perhaps. I prefer the albums before and after Fragile. Both seem more cohesive. There are jarring songs thrown in just to be inclusive of all band members. Still, a very good album. |
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Posted: 23 hours 2 minutes ago at 17:38 |
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Yes (no pun intended)
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TYA and Fragile are both equally great. I probably prefer Fragile by just a tiny bit though.
Top five Yes (or my opinion I should say): Relayer Close to the Edge Fragile The Yes Album Going for the One Just behind GFTO is Drama then Tales but all are great. And 90125 is a great pop rock album with prog elements but nothing more and nothing less. It's not on the same level as the others. |
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The interesting track for me is South Side Of The Sky which sounds like proto prog metal. Yes developed a harder edge on this album and that stood them in good stead to take over the mantle of the leading prog band ahead of ELP. Rick Wakeman is a massive figure in prog and can never be underestimated although they found the perfect replacement in Patrick Moraz when he left to purse a solo career before returning to the band for the classic GFTO album. TYA to GFTO is arguably the greatest and most important run of prog albums when the genre was riding high.
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^ they were leaving covers of other artists behind, needed to stand on their own 2 feet. Historical perspective over revisionism ie this or that album could have been better if the band had done this or not done this. Fragile was a success and nowadays we can make our own versions of these albums if there are tracks we don't like. BTW Selling England By The Pound is often considered Genesis finest work despite having a Phil solo track. I think with Fragile some of the solo pieces can act as a small breather or even a bridge/intro into the following track. Cans and Brahms is the only really annoying track for me, would happily have done without that and serves little purpose (but as we know Wakeman was cooking up a brilliant instrumental album of his own at the time and didn't want any of the good stuff to be used here, hence such a weak offering)
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Posted: 12 hours 54 minutes ago at 03:46 |
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No, I don't think it's overrated.
I can think of a couple other Yes albums are overrated, but i don't want to upset anyone.   Edited by Cristi - 9 hours 50 minutes ago at 06:50 |
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Psychedelic Paul
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I'm a YES fan but it wouldn't offend me if you said Open Your Eyes was overrated. 
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Fragile is rated just fine imo. None of the solo pieces have bothered me when I've listened to the album in full.
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For me Fragile works better with a little tinkering to the running order (something I seldom do). I discard the (dare I say disposable) five short solo tracks, and tack on their version of 'America' which was recorded around the same time but issued only on an Atlantic sampler album, until it turned up as a bonus track on more recent CD releases of 'Fragile'.
Thus: 1) Roundabout 2) South Side of the Sky 3) Long Distance Runaround 4) Heart of the Sunrise 5) America All of which clocks in at 42 minutes. Edited by Floydoid - 5 hours 59 minutes ago at 10:41 |
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Posted: 3 hours 60 minutes ago at 12:40 |
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Or Talk. 
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Open Your Eyes is one of their worst. Talk is their best of the 90s.
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For me, I think The Yes Album is more superestimated than Fragile. But then, I've been known to superestimate more than I underestimate and polyestimate.
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Yes, Talk is super-underestimated at PA with a lowly overall rating of just 3.08. 
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Posted: 1 hour 15 minutes ago at 15:25 |
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Some albums are overrated, but I don't think Fragile is one of them.
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Cristi wrote: