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Originally posted by Progeros Progeros wrote:

In my opinion, their finest albums are The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, and Going for the One. Each of these three records has stood the test of time. Of course, Fragile has some GREAT songs (and an amazing album cover illustration by Roger Dean), but as an album, it's slightly ruined by solo tracks by each member that sound dated these days and don't let Fragile pass the test of time as the aforementioned three albums do.


My feelings exactly.
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"That, That Is" from "Keys to Ascension" (1996) is better than any track from "Fragile"))
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Originally posted by felonafan felonafan wrote:

"That, That Is" from "Keys to Ascension" (1996) is better than any track from "Fragile"))

I don't think so.
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For me The Yes Album, Fragile and Close To The Edge are a single thing. I can listen to them three in a row and I feel them like a triple LP
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I've always regarded 'Fragile' as a nice little EP undermined by the solo tracks. In that sense, I definitely feel it is overrated when compared to masterpieces such as CTTE and Relayer. Just my .02.
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Top 3 Super-Underestimated YES Albums

5 stars 1994: YES - Talk - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lUj1d4fSCsm1W8MpGqww4v1UzFASfbfcI
5 stars 1999: YES - The Ladder - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nqDU0J8X8x2WSBB7xRsGir8Smfl2hlMrU
5 stars 2023: YES - Mirror to the Sky - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mdLFJt9iPnV0i5cqbPQzOA3-wD3VEgJxA
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Overrated? Yes, as I find a lot of Prog albums better than or at least as good as Fragile.








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For me, what made Fragile stand out from any other album I'd heard in my life (this would be 1974) was how totally disparate the collection of songs were. There was nothing like it I'd ever heard! (Not sure if there's ever been an imitator do it as well.) Not only was the overall contrivance mind-blowing, but so many of the individual songs were mind-blowing in their own right. I mean, who in 1972 was letting each and every one of their individual members express themselves in the way that they alone wished to express themselves PLUS pull of not one, not two, but three mini-epics whose skills-demonstrations, riffs, and lyrical hooks would prove to be so iconic? Who gave drummers the chance to do what Bruford did on "Heart of the Sunrise"? Who else had a convoluted, nonsensically-lyricked, eight minute song receive high-volume radio play--for over fifty years now! (I mean: who doesn't know "Roundabout"? Even my grand children know "Roundabout.") And who else was throwing around church organs and complex multi-voice vocal weaves over complex, mutli-dimensional hard rock at that time like Yes did on "Southside of the Sky"? Add into the mix the fact that many of these songs--in expanded, exacted, or medley versions--continue to be concert favorites to this day (with Jon & The Band of Geeks).

No. The contribution Fragile made to A) the legitimacy of progressive rock music and B) the legacy of prog and rock in general cannot be underestimated.
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Originally posted by AlanB AlanB wrote:

Originally posted by Progeros Progeros wrote:

In my opinion, their finest albums are The Yes Album, Close to the Edge, and Going for the One. Each of these three records has stood the test of time. Of course, Fragile has some GREAT songs (and an amazing album cover illustration by Roger Dean), but as an album, it's slightly ruined by solo tracks by each member that sound dated these days and don't let Fragile pass the test of time as the aforementioned three albums do.


My feelings exactly.


Hi,

In my book, this is sad ... they were not the only group that showed individual talents, and many had already done it by then. My thoughts are that the timing of the album was too soon, and some stuff to fill it up, was needed, but suggesting that SH's part is not good, is a take on his musical ability and sensibilities that has for over two dozen years done so much, and so well for the band ... and I'm not sure that is a fair comment, for an artist, unless folks don't give a damn about "artist" and think that only hits and singles matter in their life ... I can tell you what Picasso, or Dali would tell you about that!

I believe we have to stop this attitude of policing and mandating what an artist should or should not do, and if you don't like it, for crying out loud ... look at Mike's wonderful lists and realize there is more music out there, and there is no need to trash some folks ... besides the fact that some of them are so well established at their artistry and you end up showing that you are not looking in the mirror and only seeing someone that could not and did not, do it at all ...

PA, and its folks, have to respect the artists a bit more, and I wish, hope, that the Admins can put the foot down on stuff like this ... it hurts the band, and it makes it look like there is a bunch of fans that don't care ... wtfudge are they listening to YES, if that's not their taste?
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
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