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    Posted: February 24 2005 at 06:42

Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

if you heard this recording you might eat your words,
who knows. Jelly Morton lived 1890 - 1941, this is a
take on 20's jazz. Brilliant IMO, forgetting the junk he
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Hey Dallas

 

That suggestion is quite inspirational. May I add Fats Waller? 20 years ago  I found a LP of 30's keyboard jazz by Waller,with  3 tracks played on an cinema organ (hey that was progressive for the time).
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Originally posted by Sweetnighter Sweetnighter wrote:

[QUOTE=DallasBryan] Kenny G and Marsalis are, in my mind's eye, different sides of the same bad token.

 

First time I've seen the Fuzakian/muzakian Kenny G and classisist (and virtuoso) Wynton Marsalis mentioned together - personally, opposite ends of another jazz spectrum. The closest you get Maraslis playing jazz fusion is on one of those  CTI albums Fuse One, otherwise he's the doyen of jazz: America's classical music.
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Originally posted by Sweetnighter Sweetnighter wrote:

oh you're a drummer!

BILLY COBHAM!!!
Get SPECTRUM by BILLY COBHAM!!! AMAZING RECORDING!!!

I have to say, some of these people should be in the archives... but I won't start anything.

 

How could I forget this one!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Too early in the morning to be fully awake?
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Originally posted by frenchie frenchie wrote:

frank zappa and captain beefheart have great jazz elements

 

But I would humble suggest, not your immediate suspects as jazz rock fusion;try:

 

Lifetime (in its two forms), 11th House, Mahavishnu Orchestra (also try the currently operating Mahavishnu Project), Return To For Ever , check out the current thread elsewhere on Weather Report, Brand X (check their modernday reincarnation, Tunnels), a heap of Bruford albums currently being reissued, Allan Holdsworth, Tribal Tech (Rocket Science is a blast). ETC
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Sweetnighter's list is absolutely indisputable & excellent but I would definitely add:

Ian Carr's Nucleus

Early Keith Tippet (up to Centipede)

Santana's Caravanserai, Illuminations (with Alice Coltrane) and his collaboration with Mc Laughlin hommage to Coltrane.

My fave jazz record and the real must with Kind Of Blue is Coltrane's A Love Supreme

 
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What about some violin fussion by Jean Luc Ponty, try:

  1. Aurora
  2. Imaginary Vooyage
  3. Enigmatic Ocean
  4. Cosmic Messenger

You won't regret.

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Weather Report: Black Market, Heavy Weather and Night Passage are a must.
Return to Forever: Start with Romantic Warrior.
Mahavishnu Orchestra: Birds of Fire, Visions of the Emererald beyond are my favourite but Inner Mounting Flame is good
Miles Davis: Get up with it, Miles in the sky, Bitches brew and then pretty much nothing 80s though Scofield does play alot with him

If you have limited cash I would start with Bitches Brew though. Or Heavy Weather.

 

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if you heard this recording you might eat your words,
who knows. Jelly Morton lived 1890 - 1941, this is a
take on 20's jazz. Brilliant IMO, forgetting the junk he
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Originally posted by DallasBryan DallasBryan wrote:

how about some down south cookin'?
funky jazz fusion

Booker T and the MG's - Melting Pot
Ry Cooder - Jazz
Al Kooper - Rekooperation
Wynton Marsalis - Mr. Jelly, Lord
Ronnie Earl - Colour of Love
Dixie Dregs - Freefall



Wynton Marsalis?!

Marsalis is to jazz what Collins is to prog rock! Total lack of originality and a sellout! Maybe not a sellout to pop, but a sellout from creative jazz. Rehashing 60s swing jazz isn't doing anything for the genre. Kenny G and Marsalis are, in my mind's eye, different sides of the same bad token.
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how about some down south cookin'?
funky jazz fusion

Booker T and the MG's - Melting Pot
Ry Cooder - Jazz
Al Kooper - Rekooperation
Wynton Marsalis - Mr. Jelly, Lord
Ronnie Earl - Colour of Love
Dixie Dregs - Freefall

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Originally posted by mirco mirco wrote:

You may as well begin to listen to more purist jazz players. From the roots, try some Armstrong, Dizzie Gillespie, Charlie Parker.

 

While I have listened to most of the "pure" jazz players, and as much as I respect them, I have a hard time really getting into and really enjoying most jazz.  That's why I thought artists in the fusion area of jazz would be a little more to my liking
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You may as well begin to listen to more purist jazz players. From the roots, try some Armstrong, Dizzie Gillespie, Charlie Parker.
Please forgive me for my crappy english!
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tasavallan presedentti

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[HEADPINS - LINE OF FIRE: THE RECORD HAVING THE MOST POWERFUL GUITAR SOUND IN THE WHOLE HISTORY OF MUSIC!>
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Originally posted by lucas lucas wrote:

Tony Williams' Lifetime : Believe it

Deus ex machina : De Republica

Spastic ink : Ink complete

Dixie Dregs : What if

Bruford : One of a kind

 



Believe It is very good... thats one of the albums on "The Collection". Snake Oil is such a hot song. WHEW!!! Sweet bass line, and Holdsworth is an axe god.

Is Deus Ex Machina really fusion? They have a vocalist. Doesn't that rule them out?


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Tony Williams' Lifetime : Believe it

Deus ex machina : De Republica

Spastic ink : Ink complete

Dixie Dregs : What if

Bruford : One of a kind

 
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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You might want to check out:

Brand X: Unorthodox Behaviour
Brand X: Moroccan Roll

And in addition to Cobham's excellent Spectrum, you might want to give
his Crosswinds as listen as well.
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oh you're a drummer!

BILLY COBHAM!!!
Get SPECTRUM by BILLY COBHAM!!! AMAZING RECORDING!!!

I have to say, some of these people should be in the archives... but I won't start anything.
I bleed coffee. When I don't drink coffee, my veins run dry, and I shrivel up and die.
"Banco Del Mutuo Soccorso? Is that like the bank of Italian soccer death or something?" -my girlfriend
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Originally posted by alan_pfeifer alan_pfeifer wrote:

I am going to be joining one of my school's Jazz bands at the beginning of next year.  I was wondering if anyone had a few really good Fusion albums to kick-start me into jazz as a gnere, because I love the music, but I don't listen to it as much as I should.  Any suggestions, perferably with some very good drums.


RETURN TO FOREVER - ROMANTIC WARRIOR
Mahavisnu Orchestra - Inner Mounting Flame
Miles Davis - Bitches Brew
Miles Davis- In a Silent Way
Return to Forever - Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy
Return to Forever - Where Have I Known You Before
Tony William's Lifetime - Emergency!
Tony William's Lifetime - The Collection (two albums on one CD)
Weather Report - Sweetnighter
Weather Report - Mysterious Traveller
Weather Report - Tale Spinnin'
Herbie Hancock - Sextant
Herbie Hancock - Headhunters (more funk than fusion)
Pat Metheny - Bright Size Life (more jazz than fusion)
Al DiMeola - Land of the Midnight Sun
Al DiMeola - Elegant Gypsy
Lenny White - Venusian Summer
Larry Coryell - Spaces
Jean Luc Ponty - Enigmatic Ocean
Jean Luc Ponty - Imaginary Voyage
Chick Corea - The Leprauchun (sp?)
Chick Corea - The Mad Hatter
Jaco Pastorius - Jaco Pastorius
+ other stuff



Other jazz to know:
Miles Davis - Kind of Blue (ABSOLUTELY NECESSARY!)
Miles Davis - Birth of the Cool
John Coltrane - Giant Steps
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme
Wayne Shorter - Footprints
Herbie Hancock - Empyrean Islands
Herbie Hancock - Maiden Voyage
Cannonball Adderly - Mercy Mercy Mercy
Getz/Gilberto
Larry Young - Unity (great hammond b-3 player)

And of course Charlie Parker, Dizzy Gillespie, Sonny Rollins, Wes Montgomery, Charles Mingus, Ron Carter, Cannonball Adderly, Joe Zawinul, Duke Ellington, etc etc etc

If you're joining a jazz band, I'd suggest picking up what they call "fake books," which are books with standard jazz combo 60s pieces that have the head (main melody) and the jamming changes.

Have fun!
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