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    Posted: June 27 2006 at 06:39
I like YES since their "Yes album". Afterwards came "Fragile" and "Close to the edge". I was stunned by that music.

In any discussion about this group I never hear talking someone about a song that overwhelmed me in his artistic and musical power: "America". It was released on an Atlantic sampler (vinyl) "The new age of atlantic". This song was overwhelming. But nobody is talking about it now. Some people shrug their shoulders pointing out that it is "merely" an adaption of SIMON AND GARFUNKEL. And that is a little folk song. Nothing big. - For me "America" is a wonderful, powerful, excentric rock epic (about 10 min).

Do you feel it is only a orchestrated folk tune?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 07:16
nope  what Yes did to Simon and Garfunkel's America is what Hendrix did to Dylan's All Along the Watchtower.



  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 07:17
No, it's a great cover version but they've taken the original song and made it completely different. The instrumental beginning, middle and end bear no relation to the S&G original. Yes did a lot of cover versions like this in their early days - Something's Coming and Every Little Thing for a start.
I've always loved their version of America and I was glad to see the full version finally on CD on the Fragile remaster.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 07:32
Great performance of it as well on Keys to Ascension.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 07:33
It's a great cover - just like all their early cover versions. But Jon's pronunciation of Michigan as mitch-igan really bugs me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 07:37

As said above, totally different from the Simon & Garfunkel version, & now available again on Rhino's re-master of Fragile, I also agree about the great live version on KTA (1)

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 07:48
I have a version of it on the 'Close to the Edge' re-master. Is that not a 'full' version...

Anyway, to be honest I've never liked it... I'll give it another go. Everyone else seems to love it, perhaps I'm missing the point.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 08:02
Originally posted by Teaflax Teaflax wrote:

It's a great cover - just like all their early cover versions. But Jon's pronunciation of Michigan as mitch-igan really bugs me.


     Being from Mitch-igan myself, that always grates on me a bit too. I love the song. "Every Little Thing" is another great cover, and I am a harsh critic when it comes to Beatles' songs. Very few people have done adequate, let alone good, interpretations. I thought that an album of nothing but covers could be an interesting Yes project. I know, it's been done to death, but Yes puts in the effort to make the songs their own.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 08:04
Andy, there is a short single version which is on Yesyears and is probably the one on your CTTE remaster. It cuts off the magnificent intro and has a really obvious edit later on. You'll know when you hear the full 10 minute version!!!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 08:13
Yeah Blacksword,

the 10 min version is pure energy. They even incorporate another musical pattern: America by Leonard Bernstein, West Side Story. It is player by Squire on the bass for a short riff. It's very amazing, this idea. And at the end: the bass riff climbing up and down and those crying guitars. And Bruford drumming hell out of it. It makes me nut.

Wonderful adaptation and song.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 08:20
This full version does sound more inpsiring than the version I've been used to. I shall check it out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 08:40
What gets me is the feeling of joy that exudes from the speakers during the extended "jam" session.  Yes is usually so precision-oriented that it brings a smile to my face every time I hear Howe, Squire and Bruford basically doing an all-out power trio thing together during the guitar lead.  The keyboards are so far down as to be non-existent during that segment but that's okay with me in this particular instance.  The whole song just shows that deep down they were at heart a rock and roll band that loved to play.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 09:09
     I listen to it alot, and love the beauty and power of the arrangement. Especially Howe here shows a real mastery of various styles of American picking, and Anderson a brilliantly original sense of vocal arrangements, that not only capture the beauty of the original, but carry it to new realms.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 09:24
Originally posted by jojim jojim wrote:

[snip...]  "merely" an adaption of SIMON AND GARFUNKEL. And that is a little folk song. Nothing big. - For me "America" is a wonderful, powerful, excentric rock epic (about 10 min).



The Yes version is good, but to call the original "a little folk song. Nothing big." is blasphemy to my ears. This is still one of the most beauitful songs of the sixties and far superior to the cover. IMO of course.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 09:25
I know both the live version from KTA and the one released on the "Fragile" remaster. Both smoke, and have nothing whatsoever to do with the original - which, BTW, is quite a nice folk song by a great duo of musicians.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 09:29
I love it -- I was late in discovering it, so to suddenly happen upon this dynamic, terrific track by a classic Yes lineup at the height of their powers was a real revelation for me!Big smile
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 11:15
I've loved both the original version by S&G and the Yes version for decades now.  I used to work with an avid Yes fan who never liked the Yes version.  He changed his tune when I showed him an interview with Paul Simon where Simon mentioned how much he loved the Yes version with all of its energy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 11:19
Originally posted by jojim jojim wrote:

the 10 min version is pure energy. They even incorporate another musical pattern: America by Leonard Bernstein, West Side Story. It is player by Squire on the bass for a short riff.


I love that little riff in the intro too!  Chris does it in the intro of "Something's Coming" also.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 11:52
I think he also sneaked a bit of "Day Tripper" into "Every Little Thing".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 27 2006 at 12:21
You're definitely not alone in liking this piece! Although I couldn't care less about Simon and Garfunkel, I've always thought 'America' was one of the most inspired performances from Yes's golden age. I especially love its long instrumental workout! It's definitely up there with 'South Side of the Sky', 'Heart of the Sunrise' and 'Siberian Khatru', though perhaps not quite on the same level as 'Starship Trooper'!
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