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M. B. Zapelini
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:36 |
I do not hate Dream Theater - I´m not that fond of LaBrie's voice (although he's a great singer, let's face it), but I do not like when they try to fill their albums with pop song which sounds more like U2 (if U2 members knew how to play their instruments with such prowess).
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 13:44 |
I love DT always have done. Don't find them "cheesy" at all, just brilliant.
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oscar
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 14:35 |
I dont like DT at all...
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walrus333
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 15:39 |
I really like Images and Words but other then that album I find their albums either horrible (Falling Into Infinity/ 6 Degrees) or inconsistant (SFAM, Awake, WDADU etc.)
They are hardly the worst thing for prog though.
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 16:12 |
I don't care for DT's muisc either and i really dislike the vocals and lyrics, they sound cheeeeessy
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ken4musiq
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 16:13 |
walrus333 wrote:
I really like Images and Words but other then that album I find their albums either horrible (Falling Into Infinity/ 6 Degrees) or inconsistant (SFAM, Awake, WDADU etc.)
They are hardly the worst thing for prog though. |
That surprises me because I thought you were a DT fan. I do agree that they are inconsistent but when they are on they are quite good. (When they are not ..well  ) I am not fond of LaBrie's voice and hearing them live it is even worse. ( . . .and the endless number of psots on that front.) He goes off pitch a lot because he is a baritone with the technique to sing out of his range. The band seems to be a vehicle for JP's guitar, which is okay;(the notion not his guitar) but I often wonder if he picked a medicore singer so as not to have anybody to compete with.
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Snow Dog
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 16:23 |
I don't understand what is "Cheesy" about DT!
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kajkeron
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 16:30 |
DO I HATE THEM???
No... I only think they're so much overrated, and that annoys me, just as in other similar cases (Britney Spears, Madonna...)
I think they have no gift for composing. Melodies are really weak.
They are very skillful of course, but that's only he surface. In FACT THRIR MUSIC IS VERY SIMPLE!
LA Brie's voice is a real failure.
They sound like all these boring, pompous, plastic-heavy-metal bands from '80 - Halloween, Queensryche... There's nothing more in DT.
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Catholic Flame
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 16:53 |
I would have to say that I learned to hate DT from its fans
here on this site.
Topic after topic after topic about DT. And if you don't think that God himself
didn't bestow super-human powers to the members of the band then you just don't
get it and must be
attacked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
So in the end I get I don't care one way or the other about the band. But I do really hate the attitude of their fans. And I predict that one or many DT fans will attack this post and prove my point.
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Visitor13
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 16:55 |
Catholic Flame wrote:
I would have to say that I learned to hate DT from its fans here on this site.
Topic after topic after topic about DT. And if you don't think that God himself didn't bestow super-human powers to the members of the band then you just don't get it and must be attacked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So in the end I get I don't care one way or the other about the band. But I do really hate the attitude of their fans.
And I predict that one or many DT fans will attack this post and prove my point.
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Your post has an illegal number of exclamation marks. You are hereby to remove all save three.
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Catholic Flame
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:02 |
Visitor13 wrote:
Catholic Flame wrote:
I would have to say that I learned to hate DT from its fans here on this site.
Topic after topic after topic about DT. And if you don't think that God himself didn't bestow super-human powers to the members of the band then you just don't get it and must be attacked!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So in the end I get I don't care one way or the other about the band. But I do really hate the attitude of their fans.
And I predict that one or many DT fans will attack this post and prove my point.
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Your post has an illegal number of exclamation marks. You are hereby to remove all save three. |
I appreciate you sharing that with me.
Edited by Catholic Flame - April 22 2006 at 17:02
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Fritha
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:03 |
You know what irritates me somewhat as far as DT is concerned? The fact that I personally seem to become deaf to musical virtuosity when I listen to them! I would like to listen to my copy of Images & Words and at least marvel at this aspect of these musicians if nothing else (as I'm not really a fan of their song writing approach) but I just don't seem to be able to hear it to the extenct that I expect to hear it, considering how often the band members are being prased of being technically supreme even amongst prog bands. I know that this amazing virtuosity must be there as so many keep raving about it, yet for some reason I just fail to grasp it   When I listen to classic prog bands the skill-factor is there even for a non-musician like me to hear and appreciate so why is it that this same factor manages to elude me in the case of DT? Beats me... And it makes me feel a bit ridiculous and confused to be honest, lol.
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Ivan_Melgar_M
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:20 |
Fritha wrote:
You know what irritates me somewhat as far as DT is concerned? The fact that I personally seem to become deaf to musical virtuosity when I listen to them! I would like to listen to my copy of Images & Words and at least marvel at this aspect of these musicians if nothing else (as I'm not really a fan of their song writing approach) but I just don't seem to be able to hear it to the extenct that I expect to hear it, considering how often the band members are being prased of being technically supreme even amongst prog bands. I know that this amazing virtuosity must be there as so many keep raving about it, yet for some reason I just fail to grasp it   When I listen to classic prog bands the skill-factor is there even for a non-musician like me to hear and appreciate so why is it that this same factor manages to elude me in the case of DT? Beats me... And it makes me feel a bit ridiculous and confused to be honest, lol. |
Something similar happens to me, I find Ruddess a great keyboardsist, the rare times I can barely listen Myung he sounds great, Petrucci is really good, Portnoy is a bit poser IMO but good technique and strenght.
Their solos are amazing, but their music says nothing to me the solo based structure trying to prove how they can do hardest things than the rest of the world is not enough.
Already Malmsteen proved that, the guy is an incredibly talented guitar player, but his endless guitar masturbations gained attention for a short peiod of time compared with some much less talented musicians.
Iván
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:35 |
Another love/hate DT thread, and I'm going to go hang myself in the bathroom | | |  Please think about me!
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:36 |
*thinks*.......................................ok enough of that!
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Visitor13
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:37 |
The Miracle wrote:
Another love/hate DT thread, and I'm going to go hang myself in the bathroom | | |

Please think about me!
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I am thinking about you, Miracle  .
(considers a suitable title for his new love DT thread)
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HeirToRuin
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:37 |
Dream Theater was my favorite band until I discovered the rest of prog.
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The Miracle
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:39 |
Visitor13 wrote:
The Miracle wrote:
Another love/hate DT thread, and I'm going to go hang myself in the bathroom | | |

Please think about me!
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I am thinking about you, Miracle  .
(considers a suitable title for his new love DT thread) |
Well I don't mind a love thread as long as it stays a love thread and about DT, which is how all DT love threads go  Or do they? 
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Visitor13
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:44 |
They always go my way... 
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lightbulb_son
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Posted: April 22 2006 at 17:45 |
M. B. Zapelini wrote:
I do not hate Dream Theater - I´m not that fond of LaBrie's voice (although he's a great singer, let's face it), but I do not like when they try to fill their albums with pop song which sounds more like U2 (if U2 members knew how to play their instruments with such prowess). |
don't hate on U2. edge is a great guitarist, i love his tone.
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