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Points: 4702 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 13 2007 at 09:30
Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.


You might say that Glass was "de-composing" even before he STARTED.


Ouch! But even though I like Glass somewhat, that is funny .
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Originally posted by Hirgwath Hirgwath wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.


Glass's "Pruitt Igoe" is one of my favorite classical pieces ever. I need to see Koyaanisqatsi.


That's actually part of a trilogy of movies that include Powaqqatsi and Naqoyquatsi.  All really cool videos.
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Originally posted by andu andu wrote:

Good classical music, what's that called? Pleonasm?


Not really, have you forgotten about Mozart?

teasing somewhat

Mahler has already been mentioned, but Mahler's Fifth hasn't. Also Felix Mendelssohn, a man of heavy musical talent and heavier musical opinions (look up his take on Beethoven's Ninth!)

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Originally posted by fuxi fuxi wrote:

Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.


You might say that Glass was "de-composing" even before he STARTED.


Huh, minimalists don't compose they decompose, interesting.
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Originally posted by BroSpence BroSpence wrote:

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John Dowland's songs for lute
 
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Dowland is fantastic, and if you like that sort of music, I'd recommend "Ancient Airs and Dances" (essentially a more authentic interpretation of Resphigi's arrangements) by the brilliant lutenist Paul O'Dette. It also features the incredible talents and most amazing name of Rogers Covey-Crump, who is one of my favourite counter-tenors.
 
http://www.hyperion-records.co.uk/details/55146.asp
 
For those not familiar with Dowland, here's a treasure trove; http://www.classiccat.net/dowland_j/index.htm
 
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I like good piano concertoes, like the ones by Grieg and Schumann, and Rachmaninov's second.

Symphonies: I like Dvorak's 9th a lot, Beethoven's 5th and Mahlers 1st.
 
In my piano lessons I played a lot of Beethoven, Bach and Mozart piano pieces: always a good way to master the piano.
 
Personally I like national music a lot: I mean classical music with a folk music twist, like Brahms' Hungarian Dances, Rimski-Korsakov's Sheherazade and Grieg's Peer Gynt suites.
 
I like impressionist music as well, Debussy and Ravel, and  I also like mixtures of classical music with jazz, like George Gershwin did.
 
On top of it all, I like some modern classical music, bits and pieces from Philip Glass' works (especially piano versions of themes from Einstein On The Beach, and some parts of Akhnaten and Koyaanisqatsi). John Adams and Arvo Pärt fascinate me as well.
 
But there's much more that I like.
 
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Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.


You might say that Glass was "de-composing" even before he STARTED.
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Originally posted by sean sean wrote:

Originally posted by BaldJean BaldJean wrote:

no-one mentioned Gustav Mahler so far, so I will: his symphonies (especially the 9th), his "Kindertotenlieder", his "Lied von der Erde", the "Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen"; all of these are highly recommended.

another one that hasn't been mentioned: Robert Schumann. here I recommend his symphonies (especially his 3rd, the "Rheinische"), his "Dichterliebe" (a song cycle based on the lyrics of German poet Heinrich Heine), his a-minor piano concerto and "Manfred", a melodram based on the lyrics of Lord Byron. and since I am just listening to them on the radio: his 3 romances for clarinet and piano.

last but not least: Franz Schubert. here I recommend "Die Winterreise", a song cycle (try to get the version with Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau singing), his trout quintet, the string quartet Nr. 14 ("Death and the Maiden"), "Die schöne Müllerin" (another song cycle), his "unfinished" symphony in B-minor and his C-Major symphony (by today's usual way of counting his 8th; there was and is a bit of confusion and complication about counting his symphonies) and his many, many Lieder (over 600)


As you mentioned Schumann, his piece "Erlkonig",based on the poem by Goethe is one i find very enjoyable.
Also, if you are to look into Robert Schumann, i recommend looking into some of his wife Clara's work. She too was an excellent pianist, perhaps even better than her husband.

are you sure you mean the "Erlkönig" by Schumann? many composers set that poem into notes; there are versions by Carl Loewe, Johann Friedrich Reichardt, Carl Friedrich Zelter, Robert Schumann, and Hugo Wolf. the most popular version though is by Franz Schubert, and somehow I have the feeling you mean this version, because it surely grips you with its galloping rhythm. and yes, Clara Schumann née Wieck should definitely be looked into


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Originally posted by asimplemistake asimplemistake wrote:

I like a lot of minimalism, including John Adams (Short Ride in a Fast Machine) and Arvo Part (Spiegel Im Spiegel).  Umm theres a lot of other good stuff, that's just what comes to mind at the moment. 

 
...Steve Reich´s ´Music For 18 Musicians´ comes to mind... 
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Good classical music, what's that called? Pleonasm?
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I like a lot of minimalism, including John Adams (Short Ride in a Fast Machine) and Arvo Part (Spiegel Im Spiegel).  Umm theres a lot of other good stuff, that's just what comes to mind at the moment. 

There's also this one good song called something like Blue Shades I believe that's a great jazzy piece for a wind ensamble.
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Points: 4318 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 12 2007 at 01:06
Daphnis et Chloe suites comes to mind. (Ravel). Also, check out Luciano Berio for some RIO aproach, and Ligetti for something like acoustic Tangerine Dream (early days),


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i like to reccomend:  Girolamo Diruta - ´IL TRANSILVANO´
check it out , google it - an amazing organ stuff composed by fra Girolamo Diruta, in Venice in the year of 1593, in the honour and dedicated to His Highness, Sigismund Bathory, The Prince Of Transilvania!  a real "vampire style" organ music, imho! Wink
 


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Bach's Cello and Lute Suites are good on both their original instruments and arranged for guitar

Beethoven's 5th and 9th symphonies are obvious starts although I prefer his various piano sonatas.

Chopin's nocturnes and mazurkas

Philip Glass's Civil Wars, and Music in 12 Parts

Steve Reich's piano phase, electric counter point, and trains

Dvorak's New World  Symphony (no. 9).  His other symphonies are good too and not nearly as appreciated as they should be.

Holst's The Planets

John Dowland's songs for lute

Isaac Albeniz's piano works (also arranged for guitar like the mega-famous Asturias/Leyenda)

Nikita Koshkin's The Elves Suite (guitar)

Stravinski's Spring Sacrifice is a start

Rimsky-Korsakov's Scheherezade

Bartok, Berlioz, and Brahms are good ones too! Bartok is far more different from the other two B's as he was modern, but he is great.
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:


2. Rakhmaninov's Piano Concerti
 
 
 


god I love Rachmaninoff's  work... which one though...  3 is the famous one... many including myself think the 2nd is best of the four

My favorite has ALWAYS been Rhapsody of a theme of Paganini.  That music will touch your sou.. it there is one that can be touched. 


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Originally posted by paolo.beenees paolo.beenees wrote:

There's plenty of good classical music... where should I start from? I'll try to suggest something:
- Renaissance Polyphony is amazing: Palestrina and Despres are my favourite ones.

- Monteverdi's "Magnificat" and "Arianna's Lament"

- Baroque classical music is astounding: Vivaldi (besides his Four Seasons, try some religious music, like for instance the impressive "Nullo Mundo Pax Sincera"), Marcello, Corelli, Pachelbel (his canon is one of the most moving pieces in classical music), Purcell (his "Ode on St. Cecilia's Day" is simply wonderful)

- Bach is something completely different, my favourite one. Just listen how he could turn mathematics into trascendental music in his "Organ Variations on the Choral Von Himmel Hoch Da Komm'Ich Her"; I also go crazy for his "Goldberg Variations" (any version goes)

- Honestly, and there's no reason why, I'm not so fond of piano. But Ravel's piano concertos are really fundamental

- Stravinskij is a genius. Not only for the "Firebird" and the "Sacre du Printemps"; his "Les Noces" (I don't know if in English they are translated as "The Wedding") are really worth the while

- Contemporary classic is challenging, but also extremely rewarding. Try with Ligeti's "Lux Aeterna", Nono's "Il Canto Sospeso" and Stockhausen's "Kontakte".

 

 

...ok, let me add Mozart's "Zauberflote"


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I know some of your stuff, Im trying to download this stuff but its hard...
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Points: 7456 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2007 at 05:19
John Adams,The Kronos Quartet and Arvo Part are a few of my favourite 'modernists'.


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Points: 1594 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 11 2007 at 05:09
Originally posted by Slartibartfast Slartibartfast wrote:

And if you want go past the decomposing composers, there's Steve Reich and Philip Glass.  Though they'd probably not be considered classical by classical music purists.
 
The more recent music by Philip Glass sounds "classical" rather than "minimalist" to me. I really like his Violin Concerto.
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Not really a fan of classical music but Orff's Carmina Burana deserves a mention here...
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