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Points: 4659 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2010 at 20:44
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:


How many of you 'experts' were at the clubs in the late 70s and early 80s seeing these bands for real with the scars to prove it, or up on the stage opening for many of these bands.

Nah man, I spent the late 70s riding easy in my Chevy V8 enjoying the punch of Steve Walsh, Brad Delp and Lou Gramm screaming through the pungent smoke that filled the cab of my car Wink
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Nice to hear from the punk purists
Punks were notorious for always trying to be the punkest and write off everyone else. In the US hardcore scene a lot of the Brit '77 styled punk listed here was considered music for posers with safety pins, weekend mohawks and leather jackets, as well as the Ramones too.
X were considered to be total sell-outs for getting with a major label.

You guys shouldn't worry about what is punk, it was different things to different people at different times in different parts of the globe.

How many of you 'experts' were at the clubs in the late 70s and early 80s seeing these bands for real with the scars to prove it, or up on the stage opening for many of these bands.

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Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Most of these aren't "pure" punk, but..

Television - Marquee Moon
Wipers - Youth of America
Refused - The Shape of Punk to Come
Pere Ubu - The Modern Dance/Dub Housing
The Fall - Hex Enduction Hour


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Points: 6797 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 15 2010 at 17:12
 
 
Oh yeah and punk was about singles really!
 
 
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Originally posted by MusicForSpeedin MusicForSpeedin wrote:

Surprised no one has mentioned bad brains. 
 
Oh yeah. I Against I has always been a favorite of mine.
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Surprised no one has mentioned bad brains. Rawks
 
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
The Stranglers - No More Heroes
The Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Wire - 154
The Clash - London Calling
The Clash - Sandinista
Siouxsie & The Banshees - JuJu
XTC - Drums & Wires

The Stranglers are not punk; they just rode on the bus.  But show me any punk band that has true polyphony, like the Stranglers have in many songs. The terms "polyphony" and "punk" are mutually exclusive,because polyphony is a highly complex musical form while punk is by definition simple.

Many albums mentioned so far are not Punk, including the XTC one above. And <London XCalling.
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Yes.  Thanks Lucas for getting the thread back on track. 
 
Juju / Drums and Wires/ Are we not Men? / Metal Box / London Calling etc not really punk. (debateable though)
 
I would argue that No More Heroes, is though.  I don't think punk means exclusively 3 chords
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Good stuff lucas. I've been getting into Dead Kennedys and Discharge lately.
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Well, the topic is not prog-related, so avoid all the jazz-punk and pronk, and let's focus on the raw punk :
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
"Magma was the very first gothic rock band" (Didier Lockwood)
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Cardiacs' Songs for Ships and Irons and A Little Man and A House and the Whole World Window
Débile Menthol's Émile au jardin patrologique and Battre campagne
I also like The Brains.
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Originally posted by valravennz valravennz wrote:

The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
The Stranglers - No More Heroes
The Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Wire - 154
The Clash - London Calling
The Clash - Sandinista
Siouxsie & The Banshees - JuJu
XTC - Drums & Wires

The Stranglers are not punk; they just rode on the bus.  But show me any punk band that has true polyphony, like the Stranglers have in many songs. The terms "polyphony" and "punk" are mutually exclusive, because polyphony is a highly complex musical form while punk is by definition simple.


Edited by BaldFriede - June 15 2010 at 23:11


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The Stranglers - Rattus Norvegicus
The Stranglers - No More Heroes
The Sex Pistols - Never Mind The Bollocks
Wire - 154
The Clash - London Calling
The Clash - Sandinista
Siouxsie & The Banshees - JuJu
XTC - Drums & Wires

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I always thought of punk as a 45s type music. I have a nice collection of punk 45s. All the same, here are some fave punk LPs

Black Flag - Damaged
DKs - Fresh Fruit ...
SSD - Get it Away
Fear - The Record
Germs - What We do is Secret
Green Day - Dookie
PIL - Metal Box
VU - White Light White Heat
Devo - Are We not Men

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Everything by The Saints especially The Saints - (I'm) Stranded
plus Offspring's Smash!
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Points: 6457 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 07:11
You're free to disagree on the punkness of this:



This album made me a music freak.

Some other favorites:







I do love some Ramones now and then, but I'm more a modern punk fan.
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Points: 10266 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 14 2010 at 07:03
Inner City Unit's albums "The President Tapes", "Punkadelic" and most of all "Pass Out".

Here a few videos of Inner City Unit live:












Edited by BaldFriede - June 16 2010 at 00:06


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The Sufferer And The Witness - Rise Against
The Living End (selftitled)

And I'm not sure if you'd call them punk, but I consider them punk:

So This Is Great Britain - The Holloways
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Points: 788 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: June 13 2010 at 14:42
Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

That little band from San Pedro CA.

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