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KingCrInuYasha 
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 Posted: April 24 2012 at 17:10 |
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90125 - Yes
Sounded too much like Starship for my tastes, though to be fair, I liked "Owner Of A Lonely Heart", "It Can Happen" and "Hearts", so it wasn't a total bust.
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He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 17:10 |
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Dream Theater..the new one..what's it called?There I thought of one. |
Totally disagree with you on this one. A Dramatic Turn Of Events is the first album in YEARS that Dream Theater has sounded like Dream Theater. For years they've been experimenting, and while that has resulted in some great stuff here and there, they haven't had an album that was strong all the way through in years. Now they've finally gone back to their roots and made an album that is in the same leagues as Images and Words.
Edited by dtguitarfan - April 24 2012 at 17:11
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 17:15 |
dtguitarfan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Dream Theater..the new one..what's it called?There I thought of one. |
Totally disagree with you on this one. A Dramatic Turn Of Events is the first album in YEARS that Dream Theater has sounded like Dream Theater. For years they've been experimenting, and while that has resulted in some great stuff here and there, they haven't had an album that was strong all the way through in years. Now they've finally gone back to their roots and made an album that is in the same leagues as Images and Words.
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Bullsh*t.
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 17:16 |
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
90125 - Yes
Sounded too much like Starship for my tastes, though to be fair, I liked "Owner Of A Lonely Heart", "It Can Happen" and "Hearts", so it wasn't a total bust.
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Sounds nothing like Starship to me. Starship suck.
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dtguitarfan
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 17:36 |
Snow Dog wrote:
dtguitarfan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Dream Theater..the new one..what's it called?There I thought of one. |
Totally disagree with you on this one. A Dramatic Turn Of Events is the first album in YEARS that Dream Theater has sounded like Dream Theater. For years they've been experimenting, and while that has resulted in some great stuff here and there, they haven't had an album that was strong all the way through in years. Now they've finally gone back to their roots and made an album that is in the same leagues as Images and Words.
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Bullsh*t. |
Yeah? Well, what's your favorite band? 'Cuz their albums SUCK... 
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 19:03 |
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Finnegans Wake - The Bird and The Sky Above
I'm a huge fan of their chamber rock albums Pictures, 4th and Blue. I'd been warned that the new one was 'free jazz'. I thought what the hell I'll give it a go, how bad could it be it? Its still Finnegans Wake. Boy was I mistaken. Almost unlistenable.
Shub Niggurath - C'etaient De Tres Grands Vents
Loved Loved Les Morts Von Vite and Introduction so auto-bought C'etaient De Tres Grands Vents, just doesn't have the same vibe at all.
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Dean
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 19:42 |
afore I start - nothing wrong with Seasons End or Holidays in Eden - Strange Engine - yeah that one was a miss for me that took me until Anoraknophobia to pick them up again - then any band that can record albums like Brave and Marbles can be forgiven. The 2nd disc of Present is kinda meant to be a sprawling mess as it was wholly improvised and that's a good thing in my book - I think the later two albums disappoint me because without Jackson's sax it just isn't the same VdGG that I grew up with. The Division Bell is a good post-80s Prog album, even a poor Floyd album was streets ahead of most albums of that time and Broken China is dark and depressing and totally enthralling.
Anyway...
...it kind of depends on what you call a disappointment and how much you built up your own expectations before you actually heard it. In the old days I would be reticent of playing some new albums in case they did disappoint me - I can remember looking at the sleeve for The Final Cut for sometime not wanting to play it because from the cover and track listing I knew what the story-line was going to be and really didn't want to listen to Waters moaning about the loss of his father again (yeah, how callous of me) - going from the elation of there actually being a new Floyd album to listen to, to the despair of what it actually might sound like was probably what caused me to play it once and then forget about if for over a year... I recall I played Joan Armatrading's The Key more in '83 (and that's not a great Armaplating album by any means)... but once I'd overcome that initial disappointment and actually sat down to listen to it I found it not so disappointing after all.
Now I try to avoid buiding up any expectations before I listen to an album for the first time, I tend not to read reviews or pre-release clips before I buy from those artists that I'll buy their latest release regardless. Unfortunately some artists have fallen off that list of late - Dream Theater certainly, Mars Volta had for a while, though Noctournequet was an impulse buy that turned out to be a pleasant surprise.
Edited by Dean - April 24 2012 at 20:04
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 19:54 |
dtguitarfan wrote:
Snow Dog wrote:
Dream Theater..the new one..what's it called?There I thought of one. |
Totally disagree with you on this one. A Dramatic Turn Of Events is the first album in YEARS that Dream Theater has sounded like Dream Theater. For years they've been experimenting, and while that has resulted in some great stuff here and there, they haven't had an album that was strong all the way through in years. Now they've finally gone back to their roots and made an album that is in the same leagues as Images and Words.
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You must be listening to a different album than some of us....did you get a special release?
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 19:58 |
Bands i lost interest with are: Rush after Signals, certainly not bad but certainly does not hold my interest as they used to, and i don't care what everybody think!
Black Sabbath after Born Again - Crap!
Dream Theater after Scenes... BAHHHHH..except for Six Degrees..which is nice but i can't make it through the whole thing at once.
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:04 |
I have some recent ones.....
Steve Hackett - the new one.....the title escapes me, Horizons?
Flying Colors - really bad for me, listened 2x and that has been it so far.
OSI - Fire Make Thunder.....Blood is sooooo much better
Agents of Mercy - Dramaramammama.....uhhhh
And as far as Rush goes.....would have to be Roll the Bones, for some reason that is such a tough listen for me, Dreamline being the exception.
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CCVP
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:10 |
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I immensely dislike Dream Theater's newest, a Dramatic Turn of Events.
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:12 |
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^ sure, but was it a massive disappointment?
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What?
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Sagichim
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:21 |
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Having only listened to the new Mars Volta twice (not with my full attention) I'm afraid it's going to be a disappointment, where are the guitars? Actually Octahedron wasn't what I expected too.
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CCVP
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:21 |
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^ sure, but was it a massive disappointment? |
Oh, definitely! When Portnoy left I was expecting them to move to new and bold directions (even though I basically love almost every album they have released so far), when, actually, they moved backwards and mysteriously decided that all of the sudden LaBrie was a good enough composer to contribute with the band when all of his solo albums are as good as being kicked in the balls repeatedly by someone using boots made of iron.
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CCVP
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:24 |
sagichim wrote:
Having only listened to the new Mars Volta twice (not with my full attention) I'm afraid it's going to be a disappointment, where are the guitars? Actually Octahedron wasn't what I expected too. |
You need to listen to that again, bro. Every song of every album is composed by the guitarist and he plays in EVERY song.
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:28 |
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I immensely dislike Dream Theater's newest, a Dramatic Turn of Events. |
After a little bit of skepticism during the first few listens, ADToE became one of my favorite albums. It stands out to me because I think it's better composed than their others; DT has a tendency to get all heavy-riff-happy on the parts with vocals and solo-happy during the instrumental parts, and I felt that this album had more interesting parts underneath the vocals and that the instrumental sections had more of a compositional, structured feel instead of just functioning as cadenza sections.
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:29 |
Dean wrote:
afore I start - nothing wrong with Seasons End or Holidays in Eden - Strange Engine - yeah that one was a miss for me that took me until Anoraknophobia to pick them up again - then any band that can record albums like Brave and Marbles can be forgiven.
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This Strange Engine is one of my desert island discs which I love from start to finish and I've never been able to understand the negative response to this album by a lot of people. Radation on the other hand contains about 15 minutes of worthwhile music and the remainder is just filler. Massive disappointments for me are: Camera Camera (Renaissance) - Never quite got into Azure D'or but nothing prepared me for Renaissance's attempt at going pop. Animals - Loved Water's lyrics in DSOTM and WYWH but from Animals onwards he gets more and more negative and cynical about the music industry and politicians. However loved the song Dogs which is one of Floyd's best numbers. Relayer - Coming on the heels of TOTO which is my favourite all time progressive rock album, the first section of Gates Of Delirium I found to be a rambling mess. It gets a lot better towards the end of the first side (the Soon section) and side 2 contains two great songs in Sound Chaser and To Be Over. The Sum Of No Evil (Flower Kings) - Just never been able to get into this album
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:30 |
CCVP wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ sure, but was it a massive disappointment? |
Oh, definitely! When Portnoy left I was expecting them to move to new and bold directions (even though I basically love almost every album they have released so far), when, actually, they moved backwards and mysteriously decided that all of the sudden LaBrie was a good enough composer to contribute with the band when all of his solo albums are as good as being kicked in the balls repeatedly by someone using boots made of iron. |
That's a pretty good response.......I would also add it was rushed and it shows, maybe Mike Portnoy was right.......They should have taken some time off.
I only like a couple songs on the new album......I skip a lot of them.
Edited by Catcher10 - April 24 2012 at 20:31
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:33 |
sagichim wrote:
Having only listened to the new Mars Volta twice (not with my full attention) I'm afraid it's going to be a disappointment, where are the guitars? Actually Octahedron wasn't what I expected too. |
Noctourniquet is brilliant. Though i do miss Omar's masterful guitar playing, but it's fine. The compositions, thought not entirely made by him, are still great. Plus the focus on in-the-pocket drums and keys are a major success.
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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CCVP
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Posted: April 24 2012 at 20:35 |
Catcher10 wrote:
CCVP wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ sure, but was it a massive disappointment? |
Oh, definitely! When Portnoy left I was expecting them to move to new and bold directions (even though I basically love almost every album they have released so far), when, actually, they moved backwards and mysteriously decided that all of the sudden LaBrie was a good enough composer to contribute with the band when all of his solo albums are as good as being kicked in the balls repeatedly by someone using boots made of iron. |
That's a pretty good response.......I would also add it was rushed and it shows, maybe Mike Portnoy was right.......They should have taken some time off.
I only like a couple songs on the new album......I skip a lot of them. |
Quite true, it sounds like it was somewhat rushed and I also only like one, maybe two song off of it.
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