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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 14:36
I hate to be blunt (that is a lie), but you have 25 posts: do you really think your presence on this site warrants a DRAMATIC GOODBYE thread?

Although, I've mostly been listening to jazz these days. And when I do listen to prog, it's almost never "classic prog", most of which I've found very disappointing upon revisiting... :(
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 14:28
While I like classical I see no need to retreat to just listening to one form of music.  I see you didn't mention my favorite decomposing composer, Debussy.  Also partial to Holst and Mussorgsky.  And non decomposing composers, Philip Glass and Steve Reich. Big smile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 14:23

I have also thought one day I'll go back to classical music but that day is, I think, very far away. But it isn't prog the one holding classic back: is rock in general, and mostly, metal. Yes, I was, when younger, a classical music afdicionado that loved Beethoven, Dvorak, Bruckner, Mozart, and hundred more (Mahler too... the sixth is his highest point in my view). I never cared much for classical vocal (non-choral) music like lieder or songs (like Mahler's Lieder einer Farenden gesellen), I never liked that. I found in rock the vocal music I like (in a way that's why I don't care much about rock instrumental music... that's what classical music is for in my mind).

I discovered prog with DT like 10 years ago and then went exclusively prog. Then around 3 years later I quit rock and went back to classical almost 100%. But then it happened all again, now more pronounced. I seldom hear classical music now, and I've gotten much deeper in rock, much deeper in its most virulent, darkest forms in metal (black metal). Classical right now just doesn't make it for me emotionally. Sometimes it can be too much (sweeping emotion) sometimes too little (energy, anger).
 
Also, I finally realized I have to hear what I like and not what "is better". No more listenign to intellectual music because it makes me more "intelligent". That I leave to others who still have those ridiculous ideas. I've grown up. I listen to whatever the f**k I want. And right now, is not classical.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 14:21
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

I'm deeply in sludge/post-metal/post-hardcore now. What prog? C'mon



That's me now, along with post punk. But I think I haven't stop listening to prog 100%. I do every now and then but not so regularly like before.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 13:44
Originally posted by KingBarbarossa KingBarbarossa wrote:

My Dear fellow fans of the beloved genre of music,

after more than a year I find myself in a very peculiar situation which is to say that after many years of enthusiasm for over a year now I hardly play prog rock or actually any other form of rock anymore. I did not really lose my appreciation for it, however, butsomething happened:

I myself am a romantic and needless to say what I always have been looking for in prog was something nostalgic among other virtues like complexity, skill and a wide range of moods - and in that sense I never regarded prog as being "progressive" in the sense of this word except for the beginnings when this music was new, but interestingly it was not labelled as "prog" back then. just music, good music.

What happened then was that I increasingly started listening to romantic classical music. Something that actually started in my childhood when I sat in front of the record player listening to Dvorak and Mahler and others. Funny picture isn't it? A seven year old little boy who puts Mahler's first symphony on at his own choice while other kids listened to Disney...

Anyway, in some way classical romantic contains everything I ever really looked for in prog. It displays an incredible spectrum of moods, sharp contrasts, incredible complexity and demands highest skills from the musicians and of course there are many epic "long tracks" ;-)

Why am I writing this? Maybe at some point you have experienced something similar that might be worth sharing here. Or maybe you might feel moved to check out some classical music or give it another try. To me personally one of the greatest high-points in romantic classical music is Gustav Mahler. Start with his first symphony as it is very accessible with many very distinct melodic hooks and then go to the magnificiennt second, the 'Resurrection Symphony'. I think there are many prog heads out there who would be able to enjoy this.

Anyway, it is not a complete farewell to prog from me and I will not be giving away my 2000+ prog album collection but not only am I listening to 90% classical now but I am also intensifying studies in orchestral music composition. I will still keep visiting this site, still be interested in what is going on in the prog arena but i realize that it has become mostly nostalgy for me...
 
Progressive mnemoric footprints will last for all of eternity......good luck! It is not a question of me leaving prog music, prog music will never leave me. Period.
 
Another point is I have often heard that as one gets older one appreciates classical music more......respect yes, appreciate? No. Give me King Crimson, Brand X, a  walking stick and an i-Pod anydaySmile
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 13:20
I'm deeply in sludge/post-metal/post-hardcore now. What prog? C'mon

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 13:15
I also consider myself to be a romantic ("We are not lovers, we are not romantics we are here to serve you..." (Gary Numan)), and love Mahler's and Dvorak's music.  I was raised on "classical" music (to use the term as more generally descriptive rather than just a specific period -- i.e. Western Academic Music) and it is my first love, but I partially moved away from it because it evokes too strong emotions in me.   I also like more pure forms of jazz very much.  I'd gone off rock completely before getting back into Prog (which was partially for nostalgic sake, and the Prog I generally listen to now is more on the chamber music side -- along with jazzy ones).  I've thought before that I will probably move away from rock again.  One reason why I stopped listening to academic music so much was because my wife didn't enjoy it, and I found it deflating when I was absolutely moved by something to hear her indifferent comments.

I'm listening to a fair amount of non-rock chamber music again -- in fact I'm playing one of my old favourites now, Schubert's Piano Trio in E flat.  That said, I think I'll always love bands/ music that is labelled Prog here (particularly so-called chamber rock), but will be moving more and more towards the less rock ones. And I'll always like folk music.


Edited by Logan - December 17 2008 at 13:16
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 12:52
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 17 2008 at 12:44
My Dear fellow fans of the beloved genre of music,

after more than a year I find myself in a very peculiar situation which is to say that after many years of enthusiasm for over a year now I hardly play prog rock or actually any other form of rock anymore. I did not really lose my appreciation for it, however, butsomething happened:

I myself am a romantic and needless to say what I always have been looking for in prog was something nostalgic among other virtues like complexity, skill and a wide range of moods - and in that sense I never regarded prog as being "progressive" in the sense of this word except for the beginnings when this music was new, but interestingly it was not labelled as "prog" back then. just music, good music.

What happened then was that I increasingly started listening to romantic classical music. Something that actually started in my childhood when I sat in front of the record player listening to Dvorak and Mahler and others. Funny picture isn't it? A seven year old little boy who puts Mahler's first symphony on at his own choice while other kids listened to Disney...

Anyway, in some way classical romantic contains everything I ever really looked for in prog. It displays an incredible spectrum of moods, sharp contrasts, incredible complexity and demands highest skills from the musicians and of course there are many epic "long tracks" ;-)

Why am I writing this? Maybe at some point you have experienced something similar that might be worth sharing here. Or maybe you might feel moved to check out some classical music or give it another try. To me personally one of the greatest high-points in romantic classical music is Gustav Mahler. Start with his first symphony as it is very accessible with many very distinct melodic hooks and then go to the magnificiennt second, the 'Resurrection Symphony'. I think there are many prog heads out there who would be able to enjoy this.

Anyway, it is not a complete farewell to prog from me and I will not be giving away my 2000+ prog album collection but not only am I listening to 90% classical now but I am also intensifying studies in orchestral music composition. I will still keep visiting this site, still be interested in what is going on in the prog arena but i realize that it has become mostly nostalgy for me...
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