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Or Television. I've only heard Marquee Moon, but that's a pretty good Art Punk album. Takes that kind of Kraut experimentation, but has that energy and angst.
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 12:28
Certainly not "first" being in the 80s, but I think Minutemen had instrumental prowess well above the level of many of their peers....and for those seeking punk with "something more", they are a must.
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 12:38
moshkito wrote:
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I wanna joke and say it was The Ramones!
You may laugh, but there is an argument for this. Some thought THe Ramones were an experimental art group. Having taken music down to its bare essentials 3min songs and no guitar solos whatsoever. Nobody had done it before so you could say it was 'progressive' in that it moved music forward.
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 14:33
True, but "The Ox" is the one that immediately pops into my head.
As for the whole Ramones were an "experimental art rock" group, I don't know whether to laugh at those who actually took the idea seriously or step back and actually do a decent analysis of it. I think I'll do both, just to be safe.
I will admit there was few albums like it at the time. Some bands would go for buzz-saw energy (e.g The Stooges), others would go for minimalistic (The Velvet Underground) and/or really short compositions (e.g The Small Faces circa their self titled Immediate debut), but I don't think anyone in 1976 would have expected someone of putting all three together, let alone release such an album to critical praise, let alone it actually be pretty good - even I have The Ramones in my current Top 10 albums of 1976.
So yeah, that's a good record. My apologies for my prickly behavior earlier.
Edited by KingCrInuYasha - March 24 2013 at 14:37
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Posted: March 24 2013 at 14:48
THe theory is that it was Tommy Ramone's idea and he had influenced the sound in this direction as a project. I don't think it cuts much mustard and the sound came about by accident. Influenced by THe Stooges, THe Dictators, The New York Dolls ,Girl Groups of the sixties etc but the guitar parts were too difficult for Johnny to do live so they kept it basic..
(EDIT But I suppose you could argue that something doesn't have to aim to be something to be that thing? So just because The Ramones didn't intentionally try to be Art doesn't mean that they weren't ART. There are plenty of bands on this site that would be surprsed to find their music listed as prog)
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Posted: April 07 2013 at 22:42
Crispy Ambulance might be considered prog-punk - The Plateau Phase from 82 certainly has elements of both prog/punk. And Hawkwind is another consideration -- PXR 5 from 79 would fit that bill.
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