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It seems it was Bairnson. No Gilmour and no Fripp.
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I stand with Roger Waters, I stand with Joan Baez, I stand with Victor Jara, I stand with Woody Guthrie. Music is revolution
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Steve Howe had a small penis. False, and was one of the most well-endowed people in prog. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() |
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M27Barney ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 09 2006 Location: Swinton M27 Status: Offline Points: 3136 |
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Phil Collins cant be that well endowed. His wives all fancied having it off with interior decorators etc...
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verslibre ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 01 2004 Location: CA Status: Online Points: 19854 |
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When one's bank account is as well-endowed as Phil's, whatever else is an afterthought.
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Fischman ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: July 21 2018 Location: Colorado, USA Status: Offline Points: 1637 |
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The major misconception among non-prog fans is that prog is all egghead music, purely for showing off instrumental or compositional chops, and inherently devoid of actual artistry or emotional content.
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jamesbaldwin ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: September 25 2015 Location: Milano Status: Offline Points: 6052 |
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Proto-prog misconception. Ringo solo on The End (Abbey Road) was not a real solo. Ringo didnt want to do a solo, so Paul and John and George, with George Martin, removed instruments from the arrangements during the mixing, so we can hear almost only the drums played by Ringo. Anyway, Ringo was a good drummer (listen to I Feel Fine, Rain, A Day in The Life, Come Togehter)
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Amos Goldberg (professor of Genocide Studies at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem): Yes, it's genocide. It's so difficult and painful to admit it, but we can no longer avoid this conclusion.
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Indeed the emotion thing. There's lot's of prog songs I find utterly emotional... and mostly because of prog's characteristics, being able to elaborate a melody in a way a pop/rock act wouldn't do. |
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![]() I would add Ticket To Ride to that list. Which brings me to another misconception that Lennon said Ringo wasn't even the best drummer in The Beatles, apparently it was Jasper Carrott.
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So they tricked him into doing a "solo?" ![]() Ringo doesn't stand out for me as a drummer. I think his best drumming was on Back in the USSR.
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That the Mothers of Invention albums are Frank Zappa albums. I guess because Zappa owned all the rights that they became known as his?
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AFlowerKingCrimson ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: October 02 2016 Location: Philly burbs Status: Offline Points: 19737 |
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Let's put it this way. The Mothers of Invention albums are as much Frank Zappa albums as the Paul McCartney and the Wings were Paul McCartney albums which is to say they mostly are.
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Jethro Tull albums are as much albums as are Ian ANderson solo albums. Let's put all Tull's albums on the ANderson page then. No, not the same. Zappa was the leader but the albums were released as The MOthers of Invention, NOT Zappa albums. I know why this happens but the Mothers albums were generally better than the Zappa solo albums because of the band IMHO
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Misheard lyrics in Peter Gabriel's songs
Games without Frontiers doesn't say She's So Popular (even fooled me for years)
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CYMRU AM BYTH
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"Ringo isn't even the best drummer in the Beatles."
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There aren't many prog rock bands - at least the big name ones - that I would think of as sophisticated and inept. Something like power/symphonic metal? Yeah, maybe, especially Dragonforce. Again JMO. The best prog is effective, impactful, impressive and original while also being sophisticated and complicated.
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Good job mate, a few minutes of country will give you a mild headache. Listen to more of it and your wife will shag your best mate and your car will explode...
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I didn't say that about Ian Anderson. Anyway, some of the albums were credited to "Frank Zappa and the Mothers of Invention" and not just MOI. Frank was the leader and without him there really was no band or at the very least it would not be the same. Since you mentioned Tull, no there is no Tull without Ian but I see that as being somewhat different anyway. Technically speaking I do agree that a band listing should be separate in some cases than a solo listing. For FZ and MOI though it doesn't make much difference(at least to me)and it would be silly imo to have a separate listing for FZ and Moi unless they did albums without Frank and I don't think they did. So the way they have it on progarchives(Zappa solo and MOI mixed together)is perfectly fine by me.
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Clone? No. Influenced by Emerson. Certainly. And for me that was used as slur but I like what they did.
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Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...
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