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arnold stirrup 
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 Posted: March 25 2006 at 11:46 |
 Syzygy wrote:
It's also fair to say that both bands produced albums that don't sound dated 30 or more years on. |
I can only speak for Can because I haven't heard Magma, but your comment is spot on.
I have been getting into Can a lot lately, and find one of the amazing
things about their music is that it hasn't aged. One could
insert a Can track into any indie college radio station play list and
no one would ever know the difference.
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So much music. So little time.
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Peter
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 12:03 |
 C'est la vie.
Language issues (major factor) and even era (obviously a factor) aside, Can and Magma obviously just don't have the mass appeal of the other acts named.
What of it? Their fans like them, and not all music can be equally popular.
You can't just order people to appreciate "difficult" art.
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 12:58 |
Somehow, I just can't get anyone to pick up a little fight with me, no matter what I say abou ay band...
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ĦBeware of the Bee!
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Rosescar
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 13:18 |
Peter wrote:
C'est la vie.
Language issues (major
factor) and even era (obviously a factor) aside, Can and Magma
obviously just don't have the mass appeal of the other acts named.
What of it? Their fans like them, and not all music can be equally popular.
You can't just order people to appreciate "difficult" art. |
What I love about Can is the way that Damo Suzuki sings, almost impossible to hear what he sings 
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Manunkind
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 14:23 |
cuncuna wrote:
Somehow, I just can't get anyone to pick up a little fight with me, no matter what I say abou ay band...
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All right, I'll help you out.
(headbutts Cuncuna)
Seriously though, Can and Magma were extremely innovative for rock music, but I heard similar stuff done by jazz musicians and done significantly better to boot, so the elements that should strike me as innovative simply don't do so.
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"In war there is no time to teach or learn Zen. Carry a strong stick. Bash your attackers." - Zen Master Ikkyu Sojun
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Fritha
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 16:14 |
Syzygy wrote:
They also had a near telepathic interplay, as can be heard on Peel Sessions, Radio Waves and Live (all live recordings). Jaki Liebezeit's drumming was not particularly flashy, but his metronomic precision was uncanny. |
I wonder if this is the biggest reason why I often find listening to Ege Bamyasi a near hypnotic experience; I can easily push the repeat for this record three or four times once I get in the groove, heh.
I would already have expanded my Can collection if it wasn´t for the high prizes of their records
Still only contemplating on buying something in regards to Magma 
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I was made to love magic
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mithrandir
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 16:27 |
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Can and Magma are bands that ought to be second nature to fans of outsider rock music, a bit surprised that I see so many unfamiliar or dont care on a "progressve" rock forum, then again I just started here so Im just feeling my way around you peeps,
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micky
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 18:04 |
Fritha wrote:
Syzygy wrote:
They also had a near telepathic interplay,
as can be heard on Peel Sessions, Radio Waves and Live (all live
recordings). Jaki Liebezeit's drumming was not particularly flashy, but
his metronomic precision was uncanny. |
I wonder if this is the biggest reason why I often find listening to Ege Bamyasi
a near hypnotic experience; I can easily push the repeat for this
record three or four times once I get in the groove, heh.
I would already have expanded my Can collection if it wasn´t for the high prizes of their records
Still only contemplating on buying something in regards to Magma |
I have the same reaction to Future Days which has always been my favorite from them.
Be sure to check out Magma... they are quite something.
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cuncuna
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Posted: March 25 2006 at 21:03 |
Manunkind wrote:
cuncuna wrote:
Somehow, I just can't get anyone to pick up a little fight with me, no matter what I say abou ay band...
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All right, I'll help you out.
(headbutts Cuncuna)
Seriously though, Can and Magma were extremely innovative for rock music, but I heard similar stuff done by jazz musicians and done significantly better to boot, so the elements that should strike me as innovative simply don't do so.
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Thanks... and yes, but if we are going to that territory, then we can simply go satright to those tough contemporary composers, such as Berio or Stockhausen. They really really pushed the limits of music... Magma, I agree. A very curious mix between modern opera and John Coltrane. Can, on the other hand, presents a much more misterious background, and, as someone has already said, really brought something "new" to the world. Something that is feeding too many bands now...
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ĦBeware of the Bee!
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