'Delirious' prog symphonies
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Topic: 'Delirious' prog symphonies
Posted By: fuxi
Subject: 'Delirious' prog symphonies
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 11:39
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Does anyone out there know a (mainly non-vocal) prog symphony which is just as powerful as 'The Gates of Delirium' (on Yes' RELAYER album)?
I am not looking for masterpieces that are mainly vocal, such as 'Close to the Edge' or 'Supper's Ready'. I am just wondering if there are other symphonic pieces, approximately 20 minutes long, that pack a real punch. Pink Floyd's 'Echoes' comes close, but it seems a little too mellow. 'Lark's Tongues in Aspic', 'Ommadawn' and Caravan's 'Nine Feet Underground' might fit the bill, but they don't have meaningful lyrics... (Erm, I hope you're prepared to call Jon Anderson's lyrics 'meaningful') 
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Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 12:52
Yeah, try Renaissance. Song for All Seasons or Mother Russia. Well, Ashes Are Burning would do the trick too I guess, but I recommend those two first. Ok, they're not 30 minutes, but they don't have to be 
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 13:02
| Or if you want a 30-minute song from Renaissance, try Scheherazade and Other Stories. |
Posted By: Fitzcarraldo
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 13:11
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fuxi, You want "delirious"? You need to check out ELP's Tarkus suite asap! http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1863 - http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_CD.asp?cd_id=1863 ------------- http://www.progarchives.com/Collaborators.asp?id=326" rel="nofollow - Read reviews by Fitzcarraldo |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 13:12
| A Plague of Lighthouse Keepers by VdGG comes to mind. |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 13:22
O yeah, thanks! I don't really know Renaissance - do they have good electric guitars? |
akin wrote:Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 13:23
Merci. That's another piece I overlooked. I like Tarkus, esp. the hammond organ bits! |
Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 13:24
Thank you. I've been wanting to investigate VdGG for a long time. But is it mainly instrumental? |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 13:26
| The "Hamburger Concerto" off Focus' Hamburger Concerto album springs to mind. |
Posted By: Fassbinder
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 14:05
No, it isn't. But "Meurglys III" (from World Record, VdGG) contains much more instrumental sections than instrumental-vocalic ones.
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Posted By: Wobbler
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 15:03
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TRY WOBBLER`S HINTERLAND. Thos is one of the best prog compositions I have ever heard.... ------------- Earth steram and tree encircled by sea, wave sweep sand from my Island... |
Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 15:11
A great epic, although I'd hesitate to call it delirious. It's still a great recommendation though! |
Posted By: ANDREW
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 15:23
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Any recommendations???[/QUOTE] Emerson, Lake & Palmer - "Pictures At An Exhibition" (1971)
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Posted By: Vodkagunblast
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 15:42
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Uhhh...they're not mainly instrumental...but obviously the first half of TFTO by Yes just wins.
I second the VdGG reccomends. Hamburger Concerto isn't really "delirious" but it is quite good. Soft Machine's Third is 3/4's instrumental and 5/4's brilliant. |
Posted By: Atavachron
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 15:54
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fuxi-- love your avatar. Of course 'Tarkus' is a must. Happy the Man's 'Death's Crown' (Cuneiform), Bo Hansson's 'Lord of the Rings' (One Way) and Eccentric Orbit's 'Attack of the Martians' is fun and a great CD (eoband.com).
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Posted By: akin
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 16:18
No, Renaissance usually have only acoustic guitars, but they have superb acoustic guitars along with great keyboards and bass (sounding somewhat like Chris Squire), There are the vocal talents of Annie Haslam (5th octave range!) and great orchestral arrangements. If you are into Yes, Genesis, etc, you will surely find them interesting. |
Posted By: akin
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 16:20
| A song that doesn't have much vocal on it, that has 16 minutes and has great electric guitar solos is Salisbury, from Uriah Heep. |
Posted By: valravennz
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 17:20
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How about "Space Truckin' " from Deep Purple's "Made In Japan"? I would say that comes very close to being a "delerious" instrumental - well worth the listen regardless. ------------- 
"Music is the Wine that fills the cup of Silence" - Robert Fripp |
Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 17:56
I must have been delirious to mention it, or maybe it's just that I have hamburger for brains. It's a little crazy in parts, but not in a "Gates of Delirium" sort of way. This might seem a touch blasphemous (as it's recognised as such a great Prog piece) but I'm not that keen on "GoD" to tell the truth. Mahavishnu Orchestra has some of the same delirious qualities, I feel, but the songs I'm most familiar with of theirs are shorter. "Hymn to Hymn"... hmm. And Magma's "MDK" has some of those qualities, but not that appropriate I guess..... |
Posted By: sleeper
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 19:44
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Try the five main Transatlantic epics: All Of The Above Duel With The Devil Stranger In Your Soul My New World In Held ('Twas In) I ------------- Spending more than I should on Prog since 2005 
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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: October 13 2006 at 20:51
No, only acoustic...well, I think Great epic by the way! maybe the Tangent´s In Earnest? its nothing like Gates...but what the hell, its a great piece of music ------------- "You want me to play what, Robert?" 
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Posted By: fuxi
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 05:42
Thanks everyone, for all your recommendations! I can now prepare a shopping list. (By the way, Wobbler, I quite enjoy Wobbler!) 
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Posted By: Tony Fisher
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 06:12
Great, but I prefer Eruption off Moving Waves. Also Midnight Mushrumps by Gryphon is brilliant. |
Posted By: Lex C
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 06:49
| I dont know if delirious would be a good word to use, but hypnotic would be Catch 33 or Cassandra Gemini |
Posted By: Walker
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 09:21
For an intereresting twist... they have NO ELECTRIC GUITAR!! Michael Dunsford plays acoustic throughout, but its perfect. You don't miss the electric guitar because the song is so well arranged that the piano, orchestra and acoustic guitar, and of course a Rickenbacher bass, more than make up for the loss. Get it, if you like sympho, you won't be disappointed. I'm going to listen to it right now!
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Posted By: patomtz
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 11:13
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symphony x - the odyssey ------------- I still can't get how Dream Theater music is created by humans Dream Theater in Monterrey, Mexico 03.03.06 Unforgettable 
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Posted By: Jeff Schu
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 12:25
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Magma - Khontark pts 1 - 2... Amazing!!! ------------- 
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 14 2006 at 13:27
Good recommendation! Continuing on the Magma theme, If you like the above mentioned pieces, also check out De Futura (on Üdü Wüdü). |
Posted By: Passionist
Date Posted: October 16 2006 at 07:04
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[/QUOTE] O yeah, thanks! I don't really know Renaissance - do they have good electric guitars? [/QUOTE]
They actually do have electric solo guitar every now and then. Why I pointed out Mother Russia and Ashes are Burning is that they're also available at progarchives iirc. So you don't have to go through a lot of trouble to take a quick peek into the music. But basically they're closest to what is opera. Ok, we have Nightwish there too, but blegh. Renaissance goes quite close to classical music, and is very ambitios, that's why it's one of my favourites and I have bought all the albums. |
Posted By: Anthony
Date Posted: October 22 2006 at 14:09
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The Flower Kings - The truth will set you free ------------- Future prosperity lies in the way you heal the world with love (Introitus - The hand that feeds you) |
Posted By: ozzy_tom
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 14:33
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ELP - "Brain Salad Surgery", "Tarkus"
Eloy - "Land of No Body", "The Light From Deep Darkness" Jethro Tull - "Thick as a Brick" Eloy's suites are very "delirious".... -------------  
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Posted By: Philéas
Date Posted: October 27 2006 at 14:44
| 2112 by Rush is pretty delirious, and worth checking out if you don't know it yet. |