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Topic: Univers Zero
Posted By: Sckxyss
Subject: Univers Zero
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 00:29

Haven't seen much talk of these guys lately, but I'm hoping there are some listeners out there. Otherwise, you're missing out!

My personal favourite is the album that got me hooked, Ceux du Dehors. It's arguably not their best, but I'd recommend it to someone new before any of the others (I'm not sure why it's rated lower here; it's their #1 at rateyourmusic.com). Their first 5 albums are all amazing, though. Thumbs%20Up



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Posted By: Mellotron Storm
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 00:48
"Heatwave" is my favourite. I know i'm in the minority with that pick but "The Funeral Plain" is perhaps their most amazing track. "Uzed" and "Heresie" round out my top 3.

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 01:01
I only have the first four albums and love each of them.  Of those I will go with Ceux du Dehors.  I won't vote since I don't know enough.  Must get Heatwave.

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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Syzygy
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 07:20
Ceux du Dehors.

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'Like so many of you
I've got my doubts about how much to contribute
to the already rich among us...'

Robert Wyatt, Gloria Gloom




Posted By: Odyssey
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 08:54
Heresie for me


Posted By: avestin
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 09:16
Heresie would be my top choice but the other first 3 releases are also up there and there isn't one release I don't like.

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Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 10:47
I must say I have Heresie and I find nothing awesome about it, it´s very monotunous, dark noise... but maybe Univers Zero is just not for me

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"You want me to play what, Robert?"


Posted By: Bj-1
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 10:52
Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I must say I have Heresie and I find nothing awesome about it, it´s very monotunous, dark noise... but maybe Univers Zero is just not for me
 
 
Try Ceux Du Dehors. It's more lively and more song oriented. Still extremely complex though, but it is my favorite from them (of what I've heard).


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Posted By: Axel Dyberg
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 11:25
Heresie... It's like a dark void.

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Posted By: paloz
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 13:02
Heresie. Prog from hell!!!
Evil%20Smile
Great band, and marvellous discography.


Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 17:09
Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I must say I have Heresie and I find nothing awesome about it, it´s very monotunous, dark noise... but maybe Univers Zero is just not for me
 
 
Try Ceux Du Dehors. It's more lively and more song oriented. Still extremely complex though, but it is my favorite from them (of what I've heard).
 
I second this recommendation! I thought the same thing as you when I got Heresie first. I only began to appreciate it after I got Ceux du Dehors.


Posted By: heyitsthatguy
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 23:25
Heatwave is my favorite from the two I've heard

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Posted By: rileydog22
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 23:26
Dehors when I'm in the mood for some normal stuff, Heresie when I'm feeling dark.  

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Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 26 2007 at 23:38
Surprised no one has voted for Uzed; that's a great album too.

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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: Sckxyss
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 00:00
Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Surprised no one has voted for Uzed; that's a great album too.
 
I was just thinking that.. I'm also surprised (but impressed) at the appreciation for Heatwave.


Posted By: Rainer Rein
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 02:48
IMHO maybe the most important band available in Progarchives. Fortunately they give concerts again after quite big silence period. I think that after Andy Kirk's rejoining about one and a half years ago the band is on stage as good as twenty - thirty years ago. (have seen them three times in concert - in Würzburg 2004, in Brussels 2005 and 2006). In the last concert I saw they performed for example Dense, Presage and The Funeral Plain (my personal fave of their last live performance) and new Andy Kirk's composition Warrior as well!
So - very hard to vote because everyone of the first six albums is fantastic (I personally like all their albums).  My choice would be ... Ceux Du Dehors.


Posted By: Sean Trane
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 07:14
Uzed is the blue print for all future UZ that would be more electric (as opposed to their acoustic first three albums)
 
 
my fave


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keep our sand-castle virtues
content to be a doer
as well as a thinker,
prefer lifting our pen
rather than un-sheath our sword


Posted By: Rocktopus
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 07:20
I voted for the debut, but mostly because it didn't have any votes yet. Five first are all so great I kind of like them equally.

I do love Art Zoyd much more, though. I think I've given their six first albums a fivestar each here.  

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Over land and under ashes
In the sunlight, see - it flashes
Find a fly and eat his eye
But don't believe in me
Don't believe in me
Don't believe in me


Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 10:18
"Heresie"!!! I think the best feature (not the only great one) of Univers Zero comes out when they explore the most sinister side of avantgarde music and turn it into a different, refurbished kind of beauty, as disturbing as it may seem. "Ceux du Dehors" comes as a close second since it also explores this top quality in UZ's music.
 
        Kind regards. 


Posted By: Cesar Inca
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 10:20
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Surprised no one has voted for Uzed; that's a great album too.
 
I was just thinking that.. I'm also surprised (but impressed) at the appreciation for Heatwave.
 
Yes, it's a great album. It was actually my introduction into the world of UZ, and now that I know a bit more about their art, I kind of believ that this album anticipates some things that UZ would do in ther current second phase. But... LOOK AT THE COMPETITORS!! It is only predictable that their albums no. 2 and 3 dominate this poll. UZ is a band so consistent in their musical greatness that the losing album can never be defined as diminished or failed.
 
       Kind regards.


Posted By: Logan
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 21:03
Originally posted by Cesar Inca Cesar Inca wrote:

Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Surprised no one has voted for Uzed; that's a great album too.
 
I was just thinking that.. I'm also surprised (but impressed) at the appreciation for Heatwave.
 
Yes, it's a great album. It was actually my introduction into the world of UZ, and now that I know a bit more about their art, I kind of believ that this album anticipates some things that UZ would do in ther current second phase. But... LOOK AT THE COMPETITORS!! It is only predictable that their albums no. 2 and 3 dominate this poll. UZ is a band so consistent in their musical greatness that the losing album can never be defined as diminished or failed.
 
       Kind regards.


Oh yeah, I know, absolutely, but I just seem to remember from older discussions on Univers Zero that a fair number gave Uzed as their favourite album (don't remember  H eatwave getting quite this much appreciation in the past either -- though it has  alower percentage of votes than I did early on in the poll, as I don't think anyone new has voted for Heatwave).  Though i still have a ways to go to complete my UZ discography, the samples I've heard of the last four albums have all been good.  Nicely said, Cesar!  Those two are the best known albums I expect, as well, around these parts.  I know I started with Heresie and got Ceux du Dehors next due to recommendations mostly.

Originally posted by Rocktopus Rocktopus wrote:

I voted for the debut, but mostly because it didn't have any votes yet. Five first are all so great I kind of like them equally.

I do love Art Zoyd much more, though. I think I've given their six first albums a fivestar each here.  


Art Zoyd is fabulous, of course.

 I wonder how people feel Present compares to Univers Zero?  Actually, there was a poll on that long ago.


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Watching while most appreciating a sunset in the moment need not diminish all the glorious sunsets I have observed before. It can be much like that with music for me.


Posted By: ProgBagel
Date Posted: November 27 2007 at 21:18
Only heard Heresie and the debut. Heresie wins no doubt.


Posted By: el böthy
Date Posted: November 28 2007 at 19:01
Originally posted by Sckxyss Sckxyss wrote:

Originally posted by Bj-1 Bj-1 wrote:

Originally posted by el böthy el böthy wrote:

I must say I have Heresie and I find nothing awesome about it, it´s very monotunous, dark noise... but maybe Univers Zero is just not for me
 
 
Try Ceux Du Dehors. It's more lively and more song oriented. Still extremely complex though, but it is my favorite from them (of what I've heard).
 
I second this recommendation! I thought the same thing as you when I got Heresie first. I only began to appreciate it after I got Ceux du Dehors.

Will do then


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"You want me to play what, Robert?"



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