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lazland
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Posted: June 29 2012 at 15:05 |
Actually, this thread is turning into more of an Appreciation one, rather than a recommendation one. Perhaps it should be moved. In response to the last post, I find both to be exceptional.
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Posted: June 29 2012 at 12:45 |
This thread pushed me into plugging a couple more holes in the collection. Bought Force Majeure and Stratosfear today. Force M is good but I need a couple more listens. But Stratosfear has already got hold of my brain and three spins already. In a perverse way I am glad I didn't buy them at the same time as others as it gives them a proper chance to melt in as well as its quite exciting ! Whooo Hoooo!
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Posted: June 29 2012 at 10:14 |
colorofmoney91 wrote:
Guldbamsen wrote:
I get what you are saying. I felt the same about Magma, when I finally bought an album of theirs.
Cyclone is the black sheep, but frankly I don't get all the hate it receives. Yes it has grainy vocals on a track, plus drums and percussive ornaments, but like Dean pointed out earlier, many of TD's records feature other instruments than the synths - a lot of acoustic as well. Plus the big 'epic' is as powerful and poignant as any of their later pieces. |
I previously really disliked Cyclone, admittedly because the vocals are seriously kinda bad. But now that I've heard some of their late '80s and '90s material, I've realized that Cyclone is still a moderate classic from their best era. The big epic is indeed epic.
Another one I hated until recently is Poland, which I now think is incredible.
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Interesting points about Cyclone. Steve Jolliffe was the vocalist. Interesting how on Jolliffe's solo release there are hardly ever vocals present. He did release some great works ...like "Journey Out of the Body" featuring Tony Duhig from Jade Warrior. His back catalog was one of the greatest conributions to the electronic Berlin scene...although he was a late bloomer, he worked with T.D. much earlier and traveled the circles of the original Berlin scene. His original first 6 or 7 releases are awesome and he doesn't get much credit for his works. The vocals on Cyclone were probably a result of bad choices.
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Posted: June 28 2012 at 20:14 |
Guldbamsen wrote:
I get what you are saying. I felt the same about Magma, when I finally bought an album of theirs.
Cyclone is the black sheep, but frankly I don't get all the hate it receives. Yes it has grainy vocals on a track, plus drums and percussive ornaments, but like Dean pointed out earlier, many of TD's records feature other instruments than the synths - a lot of acoustic as well. Plus the big 'epic' is as powerful and poignant as any of their later pieces. |
I previously really disliked Cyclone, admittedly because the vocals are seriously kinda bad. But now that I've heard some of their late '80s and '90s material, I've realized that Cyclone is still a moderate classic from their best era. The big epic is indeed epic.
Another one I hated until recently is Poland, which I now think is incredible.
Edited by colorofmoney91 - June 28 2012 at 20:38
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Posted: June 28 2012 at 20:09 |
I've always had a deep interest in the obscure stuff. For example the piece "Overture" from the LP "Virgin" "Various Artists". The album is reviewed on Progarchives. The piece is creepy and creates a dark vibe, but it's not only that which interests me. It's the style in which they choose layers of keyboard sounds. Another piece that I admire is "Haunted Heights" which I discovered on a German import box set long ago. A very interesting piece that makes me feel as if I am traveling.
I have yet to locate the 2 pieces in the digital age , but often wonder if I may have perhaps missed some obscure release of them along the way. If you ever get the chance to check them out, you might understand why they are unique.
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Posted: June 28 2012 at 15:12 |
I get what you are saying. I felt the same about Magma, when I finally bought an album of theirs.
Cyclone is the black sheep, but frankly I don't get all the hate it receives. Yes it has grainy vocals on a track, plus drums and percussive ornaments, but like Dean pointed out earlier, many of TD's records feature other instruments than the synths - a lot of acoustic as well. Plus the big 'epic' is as powerful and poignant as any of their later pieces.
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lazland
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Posted: June 28 2012 at 14:54 |
Yep  Now on to Cyclone, and really enjoying this. I rather think that TD are about the finest band I should have gotten into, but never did (if that makes sense). Top notch progressive rock. I am so glad I started this thread.
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Posted: June 28 2012 at 14:44 |
I am so glad you like it Steve.
TD hold a very special place in my heart, and for some reason it just makes me love them even more, when people like yourself suddenly fall under their spell.
Stratosfear is a very good way of introducing oneself to latter day TD, and I always thought that it was THE most influential of all their albums - including Phaedra. Hundreds of electronic artists have ever since tried unsuccessfully to duplicate that feat. A large portion of the 80s, at least prog electronic speaking, sounds uncanny like that album, albeit with a soapier and more plastic feel to it.
I am definitely spinning my version of it tonight
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Posted: June 28 2012 at 14:29 |
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lazland
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Posted: June 28 2012 at 14:20 |
Stratosfear on now. Quiite brilliant. These cd's were a great purchase.
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Posted: June 27 2012 at 06:55 |
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Yer home has just been burnt down and you can negotiate aesthetic appraisal in such a selfless and objective manner - I bow in supplication Steve |
Cheers Iain. The biggest relief this week (aside from the obvious that my family are safe & well) was to get a new laptop, retrieve my backed up music (NEVER underestimate the value of backing up!), and have something to play my new CDs on.
Life without prog?!!?  It wasn't worth thinking about.
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Posted: June 27 2012 at 01:16 |
Yer home has just been burnt down and you can negotiate aesthetic appraisal in such a selfless and objective manner - I bow in supplication Steve
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Posted: June 27 2012 at 01:10 |
Happy listening
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lazland
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Posted: June 26 2012 at 15:25 |
CDs arrived today, so I have lots of new TD music to get through  I'll report when I have listened a few times.
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Posted: June 23 2012 at 01:17 |
lazland wrote:
Thanks everyone for all the recommendations.
I have, as Richard suggested, bitten the bullet and ordered tonight the two Virgin boxsets from Amazon, which are very reasonably priced.
Once I have had these and listened (and enjoyed  ), I will move on to the later or live albums that have been suggested.
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Briliant and I'm sure you will love them. Even their weakest album White Eagle is still very enjoyable
BTW There is also a Virgin boxset of Edgar Froese solo albums which is also very good 
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 12:40 |
T Dream is a special trip to say the least. I have a whopping 34 titles in my collection and I must say , I found the music particularly thrilling while driving, as its at the polar extreme of what one might hear through an open window on a highway! Rainstorms are particulaly evocative , somehow giving the sounds a special aura. I suggest you give it a whirl and let me know if this works for you.
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lazland
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 12:31 |
Thanks everyone for all the recommendations.
I have, as Richard suggested, bitten the bullet and ordered tonight the two Virgin boxsets from Amazon, which are very reasonably priced.
Once I have had these and listened (and enjoyed  ), I will move on to the later or live albums that have been suggested.
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 08:42 |
Man With Hat wrote:
I haven't seen Encore be mentioned, and it just might be my favorite. |
I was just about to recommend the self same album - of the huge range of live albums available, this is by far my favorite (followed closely by Logos, Poland, Ricochet, Pergamon etc etc...); the sound may not be exacty crystal clear, but the music is marvellous.
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 08:10 |
Snow Dog wrote:
Dean wrote:
^ Phaedra, while excellent, maybe a little too somber as an introduction to TD. |
If he likes Rubycon is Phaeda too much of a stretch? |
Of course not, but I think for Steve it's going "the wrong way" ... Ricochet -> Stratosphere -> (Encore) -> Cyclone-> Force Majeure is more appropriate than Phaedra -> Atem -> Zeit -> (Alpha Centauri) -> Electronic Meditation.
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Posted: June 22 2012 at 08:01 |
Dean wrote:
^ Phaedra, while excellent, maybe a little too somber as an introduction to TD. |
If he likes Rubycon is Phaeda too much of a stretch?
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